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[[WP:BLP]] of a writer, who doesn't have a strong claim of notability under [[WP:AUTHOR]] or particularly strong [[WP:RS|reliable source]] coverage to carry a [[WP:GNG]] pass. He's the bylined ''creator'', not the subject, of 10 of the 12 footnotes, and one more is his "our contributors" note in the general episode preview of one of the first ten — but, as always, writers do not get over our notability standards by being the ''creators'' of coverage about other ''things'', they get over our notability standards by being the ''subject'' of coverage written by other ''people''. Which means the only source here that isn't a complete non-starter in terms of establishing his notability is #4, "Montreal is in my DNA" — but that piece of coverage is from the ''same'' media outlet that ''hired'' him for the closest thing to an actual notability claim here, which means it isn't ''independent'' of him for the purposes of helping him get over GNG. All of which means that nothing here is enough to deem him notable. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 17:42, 21 July 2018 (UTC) |
[[WP:BLP]] of a writer, who doesn't have a strong claim of notability under [[WP:AUTHOR]] or particularly strong [[WP:RS|reliable source]] coverage to carry a [[WP:GNG]] pass. He's the bylined ''creator'', not the subject, of 10 of the 12 footnotes, and one more is his "our contributors" note in the general episode preview of one of the first ten — but, as always, writers do not get over our notability standards by being the ''creators'' of coverage about other ''things'', they get over our notability standards by being the ''subject'' of coverage written by other ''people''. Which means the only source here that isn't a complete non-starter in terms of establishing his notability is #4, "Montreal is in my DNA" — but that piece of coverage is from the ''same'' media outlet that ''hired'' him for the closest thing to an actual notability claim here, which means it isn't ''independent'' of him for the purposes of helping him get over GNG. All of which means that nothing here is enough to deem him notable. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 17:42, 21 July 2018 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''' probably just [[WP:TOOSOON]]. this writer is widely published, but we need SECONDARY sources that are about his work, or his life. Or a major prize.[[User:E.M.Gregory|E.M.Gregory]] ([[User talk:E.M.Gregory|talk]]) 15:09, 2 August 2018 (UTC) |
*'''Delete''' probably just [[WP:TOOSOON]]. this writer is widely published, but we need SECONDARY sources that are about his work, or his life. Or a major prize.[[User:E.M.Gregory|E.M.Gregory]] ([[User talk:E.M.Gregory|talk]]) 15:09, 2 August 2018 (UTC) |
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WP:BLP of a writer, who doesn't have a strong claim of notability under WP:AUTHOR or particularly strong reliable source coverage to carry a WP:GNG pass. He's the bylined creator, not the subject, of 10 of the 12 footnotes, and one more is his "our contributors" note in the general episode preview of one of the first ten — but, as always, writers do not get over our notability standards by being the creators of coverage about other things, they get over our notability standards by being the subject of coverage written by other people. Which means the only source here that isn't a complete non-starter in terms of establishing his notability is #4, "Montreal is in my DNA" — but that piece of coverage is from the same media outlet that hired him for the closest thing to an actual notability claim here, which means it isn't independent of him for the purposes of helping him get over GNG. All of which means that nothing here is enough to deem him notable. Bearcat (talk) 17:42, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Quebec-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 17:45, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 17:45, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep while I did not approve this page through AfC I did comment "My gut says he is notable. He is certainly prolific and funded by the CBC is impressive. Anything that can be added where other people talk about him and his work would be very helpful to establish notability" This is just a new stub and can be expanded. There are many pages in AfC that are far more worthy of deletion then this page. Legacypac (talk) 17:58, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
- Notability is not demonstrated by how prolific a person is, it's demonstrated by how much attention he does or doesn't receive as the subject of coverage, and an individual CBC station in a media market is not the same thing as the national network. Bearcat (talk) 20:38, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
- Comment I kept this during a round of G13 tagging. Pinging User:Chetsford as the one who accepted the draft. -- » Shadowowl | talk 18:11, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
- Delete a non-notable poet.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:06, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
- Weak Keep For full disclosure, I passed this through AfC. That said, when I passed it I did feel it was right on the edge, so I can appreciate the position of the Delete !votes. I ultimately felt it was worthy of mainspace under criteria 1 (award of significance or multiple nominations for significant awards) for WP:ANYBIO on the basis of (a) being the CBC Montreal / Quebec Writers' Federation writer in residence, and, (b) being on the CBC national 2017 non-fiction longlist [1] in combination with the Montreal International Poetry Prize longlist [2]. While the former ("a") is not exactly the Pulitzer Prize or the Man Booker Award, we seem to accept penultimate regional literary awards as being of significance based on the fact that many of the state poet laureates are notable only for being a state poet laureate. That said, I am aware this veers sharply into the realm of WP:OTHERTHINGS, on which basis I'm giving this only a weak keep (in fact, the weakest keep). Chetsford (talk) 05:30, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
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- Delete probably just WP:TOOSOON. this writer is widely published, but we need SECONDARY sources that are about his work, or his life. Or a major prize.E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:09, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
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