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Hi! I second this—the movie image does not do any justice to the book at all. The proper and canon picture of Percy Jackson is here: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/olympians/images/0/02/Percy_Jackson.png/revision/latest?cb=20150620132937 , but I don't know if copyright is applicable or if there are issues related to that. If anyone does, please look into this! |
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Some stuff back
I've read about everything I thought was good in the original page. However, I'm not sure why the original page got deleted, so probably we have to edit somethings from the original edit. By the way, I think we need a Relationship section for Percy. (You know, about Annabeth, Rachel Elizabeth Dare... etc.) Good luck on bringing the character pages back! I'll help when I have time. --Mktsay123 (talk) 07:11, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
- The relationship part is absolute rubbish. It must be rewritten.Pmlinediter (talk) 11:01, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
The Lightning Thief and its Sequels
Most of the stuff on this page is copied and pasted from the plots of the Percy Jackson books. We only need a one or two paragraph summary of what Percy did in each of the books. Extremepro (talk) 01:19, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
I think this page is missing a section on Percy's weapon, the enchanted blade Riptide. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.49.84.81 (talk) 02:14, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Major change
The info in the History section is pretty much just restated in the In the Books section. I propose that we just cut most of the redundant stuff out of the History section that is mentioned in the other section. Input below? Thanks, Airplaneman (talk) 00:51, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
- I support this decision. Hopefully, we will reach a consensus by this weekend. Pmlineditor Talk 07:44, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
- Support. Seems like an editorial no-brainer. --Quartermaster (talk) 12:27, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Well, we seem to have reached a consensus. Pmlineditor Talk 12:55, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
- I guess I'll start trimming out the redundant plot summary from the History section that is stated in the In the Books section. I'll go this by opening up 2 windows and going through the The Lightning Theif section and cutting what is redundant in there from the Book One section. I hope this makes sense; I'm not a very good explainer. Well, here I go. --Airplaneman (talk) 13:43, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
- I am finding it extremely hard to trim! That is because there are many minute details that are mentioned in one and not the other which make or break a good plot summary. I now think it is better to just somehow merge the two sections to say something like His History in the Books or something. That way, the reader can see all the details in one reading so he or she does not have to scroll around, which is a pain, especially for someone who has a low screen resolution. Sorry for the confusion, but it's for the best. (I hope :D)--Airplaneman (talk) 13:54, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Note for future reference: Done. Airplaneman talk 00:37, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Romance
Is anyone interested in working with me to rewrite the Romance section? The entire article needs work, but that's one section that I think could be improved greatly. Not sure if I have time or skill to do it all myself. I made a few small grammatical edits already, but there is so much to be done! PrincessofLlyr (talk) 17:46, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, I'll be certainly please to help you. And thanks for joining our TF. Regards, Pmlineditor 07:26, 9 July 2009 (UTC).
- Seconds, per talk note.--Airplaneman (talk) 12:30, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the support! And thanks for the invite, Pmlineditor. I had been thinking about it, but that kind of sealed the decision. I'm going to start work on the article in my sandbox , so feel free to drop in and make changes. I'll especially need help with any info from the first three books, as I do not own them, nor do I have them memorized yet. I also do not claim to be an expert in English grammar and writing form, so if either of you are good at that...! See you around, PrincessofLlyr (talk) 14:34, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
- Seconds, per talk note.--Airplaneman (talk) 12:30, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
start class
Is this article really still "start class"? It looks a few levels higher than that....Homework2 pass a notesign! 14:00, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
- It could be possibly changed to C-class, but one of the points in start-class criteria is that it lacks reliable sources and references. Unfortunately, that's the case with this article. The easiest way to solve that would be a section about real world reception. I figure there's something out there, especially with the recent film. PrincessofLlyr royal court 15:47, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
- Well that's dissapointing. Sigh. Why is it so hard to find reviews, sources, and references???? Homework2 pass a notesign! 16:00, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
I have to say that I am also bemused by the fact that the main character's article is only Start while those of supporting characters are at C! Slight upside down... but hey ho --Jubilee♫clipman 03:37, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- I have to admit I did not have the heart to downgrade the other articles as well (which is what I did with this one). Airplaneman ✈ 04:54, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
the heroes of Olympus
I changed it so he doesn't have a last appearance because he will appear in the lost hero so will Annabeth for sure. so please don't change it because that does count —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.156.5.105 (talk) 03:16, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Demigod
A demigod is a son or daughter of an immortal parent,and the peer is a human mortal.Demi comes from the latin word,which means half.As demigods are half bloods.But,demigods can steal the immortal one's(gods and goddesses)powers.But demigods appear to mortals,as just another human offspring.Some of the demigods in the story are listed below. Demigods: Perseus Jackson,son of Poseidon,god of the sea Annabeth Chase,daughter of Athena,goddess of wisdom and battle strategy Luke Castellan,son of Hermes,god of thieves, and messages of the gods. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pixarfan15 (talk • contribs) 11:28, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
Percy Jackson & The Olympians series
The series,Percy Jackson & The Olympians is made by a man,named Rick Riordan.The 1st series consists of five books.Here they are. 1st book,The Lightning Thief 2nd,The Sea of Monsters 3rd,The Titan's Curse 4th,The Battle of the Labyrinth 5th,The Last Olympian The 2nd series,so far,consists of one book.Here it is. 1st book,The Lost Hero The Percy Jackson books have later been turned into a movie,in the yr of 2010. The series has been based on some stories from the famous Oddyssey.The series tells of the Greek gods and their mortal offspring,which happen to steal their powers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pixarfan15 (talk • contribs) 11:36, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
Movie Photo vs. Book Pic.
I don't understand why the main picture is from the movie, an adaptation of the books. There is clearly a suitable picture as it is lower in the article. The film-makers' attempt doesn't match the actual books at all. I think these should be swapped round, as with the other Percy Jackson character articles.86.177.132.219 (talk) 20:22, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
I think that if you are going to have a photograpg of Percy they should use the official art or widely accepted art (Vira's is popular) as the photograph. Madison.Olds (talk) 03:19, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
- @Madison.Olds: The pic present right now is simply the best Wikipedia has access to at the moment. I agree that official art would be better, but it seems unlikely that it would meet all fair use criteria. As for "widely accepted art", this is a very subjective term. If an artist were to release their conception of Percy to Wikipedia, it could be possible to use that image, but it would still not be an accurate representation of the character, as only Riordan/Rocco/Disney-Hyperion could provide that. -- 2ReinreB2 (talk) 18:06, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
`In the Books` section not needed
The In the Books section is overkill, as it is basically a complete synopsis of the books, ignoring all but Percy's actions. However, it is written in such a way that an outsider to the story will have considerable trouble understanding it. Regarding this issue, the Percy Jackson & the Olympians article contains a plot summary which is appropriate enough -- this article should contend with stating the role Percy plays in the series as a whole.
There is also a need to establish who Percy is and what is his relationship and background. Currently, this is done by the books' synopsis, but it could be better defined as a brief paragraph/section (e.g. Background).
Does anyone disagrees strongly?
Passcod (talk) 20:36, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
- Nope, in fact I agree. Well, sort of. I don't think the whole section needs to be cut, just reworked. Some sort of synopsis has to be kept just for clarity's sake, but it could definitely be cut down. Have at it! PrincessofLlyr royal court 03:59, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
Harry Potter
Harry Potter is not mentioned anywhere in this article, which overlooks an obvious contextual matter concerning the origins of the Jackson book series. There can be no question that Percy Jackson was created as a result of the tremendous success of the Potter series, and had it not been for the latter, we should have never heard of the former. The internet is teeming with comparisons and similarities, yet this article, by not acknowledging Potter, seems to want to pretend that Jackson was simply created out of thin air in 2005, with "no outside influences" whatsoever. It seems to me to be a rather large elephant in the corner of the room, and I think it needs to be acknowledged, at least for the sake of integrity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.167.128.230 (talk) 02:37, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
- Do you have any references ? Winner 42 Talk to me! 23:20, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
- Riordan finished writing The Lightning Thief, before any Harry Potter novel was published, even though Rowling was writing it. Yes, many people who read it say "hey, there are some Potter similarities" and post it on their blog, which is not a reliable resource. Many critics considered the film to try to mimick Harry Potter's success in film, and compared the three characters to Harry, Ron, and Hermione, but that is about the film, not the books, which is what this article about. It is nearly impossible for any young adult fantasy writer to escape being compared to Harry Potter and trying to copy the success no matter what, which is completely unfair. And everyone thinks Rowling "stole" from C.S. Lewis, Tolkien, etc...why can't authors write what they want without worried that people will trace and theorize "origins"? There may be a few small rants out there, but what is cosidered notable? A section called "Suspected origins" or "Comparisons"? Glimmer721 talk 00:40, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
This discussion belongs on the Percy Jackson & the Olympians page; this page refers exclusively to the character named Percy Jackson, not the series as a whole. 2ReinreB2 (talk) 04:49, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
Can we put
Can we put a reception section. I mean reception for the Character (percy Jackson). That would be very interesting to read. 112.207.58.11 (talk) 02:54, 23 May 2011 (UTC) Harry Potter has nothing to do with this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chugingbow (talk • contribs) 00:26, 8 March 2013 (UTC) Prissy-clarisse — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.211.75 (talk) 00:06, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
Percy's Romance
It is mentioned that Clarisse is the "lover" of Percy. This is not true. The two never had a romance of any sort. Percy ended up with Annabeth. Clarisse and Percy do not like each other so much that it can be taken as almost hate. By the end of the last book it can be said that they at least respect each other but never has love been in their minds for each other. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.122.255.194 (talk) 18:07, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
This page needs to be deleted
I feel that all stand-alone articles of "Percy Jackson & The Olympians" characters should be deleted because there's already a page for the list of characters. And these stand-alone articles does not follow the Guidelines.
Thank You. EnvyDC (talk) 08:09, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
- I assume that you mean the page for the list of characters is List of Camp Half-Blood characters. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion for instructions (good luck with that). How does this article not follow guidelines – which guidelines? Wbm1058 (talk) 12:24, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Percy Jackson, and
- There may be others. The bar is probably higher for the main character, and this article, which was created on January 30, 2009, seems better developed now than the deleted version was in December 2008. – Wbm1058 (talk) 13:40, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
- I believe the best thing to do would be to shorten -- I mean really shorten -- the character descriptions on the master list page ([[List of Camp Half-Blood characters |here}}) that have corresponding character pages. And if any of those pages need to be deleted, they may be; however, I think this page is suitably important as it describes the title character of both a book series and movie series. 2ReinreB2 (talk) 04:54, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 26 March 2014
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82.101.217.240 (talk) 16:19, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
There will not be a third movie.
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — {{U|Technical 13}} (t • e • c) 16:46, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
Citations
Hello! Can I cite the Percy Jackson books as references? King Cobra (talk) 17:53, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
- yes you can Football1607 (talk) 18:53, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
Two Points: Please Read
- I believe a section describing the movie character by the name Percy Jackson would be suitable here, as this article does not make a distinction between the two. They are very different characters, and this article deals almost exclusively with the book character without saying so.
- I have completed the "Romance" section requested by so many, as part of a "Friends and Family" section (so that people like Annabeth Chase do not need to be explained more than once). In response to the request that there be a part about Clarisse -- I am unfamiliar with that theory, so if someone would like to add it, please do, and please cite where you have heard of it. Please also be sure to mention it as only a fan-theory unless you can find textual (direct book-quote) evidence that a relationship between the two characters existed.
2ReinreB2 (talk) 05:05, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- I'd like to renew these suggestions, especially in light of the addition of Logan Lerman's image to the page. -- 2ReinreB2 (talk) 20:27, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
Citations -- let's get on it
This article's been needing reliable citations for more than a year now; let's get to work on that. At the very least, we could add references to each of the Percy Jackson & the Olympians and Heroes of Olympus novels, Rick Riordan's website, and the character bios on the Percy Jackson website. WP:PJTF has a list of useful references down at the very bottom of the page. With just a little effort and careful reading, someone knowledgeable about the series could easily go through and reference where important facts about Percy come from. 2ReinreB2 (talk) 17:22, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 29 September 2015
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207.38.133.47 (talk) 23:42, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
Origin, Haley Riordan
This article says nothing about the origin of Percy Jackson; that is, the inspiration for Percy Jackson in the ADHD and dyslexia of the writer's son Haley Riordan. (Meanwhile, the origin of the series as bedtime stories told to Haley.) We do provide some information on both points in three other places.
- Percy Jackson & the Olympians#Origins (article on first series)
- The Lightning Thief#Development and publication (article on first book)
- Rick Riordan#Life and career (biography)
Furthermore, Percy Jackson and Haley Riordan "are the same age". That also belongs here--and in the biography, at least so long as we have no other information about the son's age or birthtime.
--P64 (talk) 00:42, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 11 June 2016
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please let me edit this thing so that the fandom can be satisfied u know fangirls and all. i assure you i am a very dedicated part of the PJo fandom.
xoxo sassy demigod p*.s please i beg u pps percys significant other also includes blue foods and he has various other nicknames such as boss by blackjack and persassy by the fandom and supreme lord of the bathroom by the troll himself.
persassy πάντα if you do not agree to our terms you, my friend, are a poopy pants Sassydemigod (talk) 12:40, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
- Not done This is not the right page to request additional user rights. The reason this page is protected is to stop fancruft, such as you want to add.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 14:21, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 20 June 2016
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DarkPrincess4179 (talk) 02:41, 20 June 2016 (UTC) Please add a new nickname. Seaweed Brain (Annabeth Chase)
DarkPrincess4179 (talk) 02:41, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — JJMC89 (T·C) 04:32, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
they really need prissy(clarisse) as one of the nicknames. I mean, who can forget clarisse!she was a true hero! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.211.75 (talk) 00:05, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
Nick Names
Percy has more nicknames than just Seaweed Brain. That one is used by Annabeth or, on occasion, Thaila Grace. He has been called Captain Sea water by Jason Grace in TMOA and Mr. Sneaky Jackson by Gleeson Hedge on page 172 of TMOA as well. These are just a few. Madison.Olds (talk) 03:24, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
- @Madison.Olds: Yes, but listing each and every one of his nicknames would be impractical. A nickname, as it is used in the infobox, is a name used nearly as frequently as his real name by multiple characters. See the note on the infobox as well. - 2ReinreB2 (talk) 18:02, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
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The picture needs to be changed to one from the books for more accuracy. The one currently used is taken from the movie version, which is not accurate at all. JoudLezbare (talk) 23:08, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
- Not done for now: If you can upload or find one, you can reopen the request with the image. Also you can request an image here, please refer - Wikipedia:Requested pictures. regards, DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 04:29, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
- I would tend to disagree with replacing it. The films are just as canonical as the books. Your argument about accuracy is invalid. Elizium23 (talk) 05:27, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
The movies
The movies were both awful adaptions of the books. They are supposed to be eleven/twelve not 16/17 in the first one by the way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.27.202.99 (talk) 22:29, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
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Guys Sally DID NOT leave Gabe she turned him to stoneMythology is Life (talk) 01:40, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Book Image
Hello editors. I have a proposition regarding the image that acts as a heading for this article. Since the character first appeared in a book series, I feel that we should include an image of Percy Jackson from the book. However, I understand that copyright free images are difficult to come by. If anyone could find a suitable image and replace the existing one, I feel that it would improve the quality of the article. Cannady212 (talk) 19:04, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
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Add to titles "supreme lord of the bathroom" Add to significant others "blue food" Mye16 (talk) 01:41, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. AdA&D 05:00, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
- This title and significant other do not meet the qualifications for a title/romantic interest - mainly, that they be used frequently and in all seriousness. -- 2ReinreB2 (talk) 20:35, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
We should change the image
I know that he played him in the movie, but this is some sort of insult for the people that have read the books. I just don’t think he really represent Percy and we should use the images that are drawn by Viria, because that are the real ones.
P.S: Sorry for my English, I’m learning InvisibleSpark (talk) 00:21, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi! I second this—the movie image does not do any justice to the book at all. The proper and canon picture of Percy Jackson is here: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/olympians/images/0/02/Percy_Jackson.png/revision/latest?cb=20150620132937 , but I don't know if copyright is applicable or if there are issues related to that. If anyone does, please look into this!
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