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Images in Wiki articles are supposed to enhance the reading and help the article visually. An image too big to fit in its own section does not fulfill his duty, as in the case of Cleopatra III's image See [[Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Images]]. However, I found a photo that depict the full scene from Kom Ombo. Now, this photo can fit the section of family, and depicts both prents (and the grandmother Cleopatra II). A source for this photo can be found: [https://books.google.com/books?id=2wtPDgAAQBAJ&pg=PA269 Martina Minas-Nerpel: Offering the ij.t-Knife to Haroeris in the Temple of Isis at Shanhūr. In the book: Illuminating Osiris: Egyptological Studies in Honor of Mark Smith, edited by Richard Jasnow, Ghislaine Widmer. Page 269]
Images in Wiki articles are supposed to enhance the reading and help the article visually. An image too big to fit in its own section does not fulfill his duty, as in the case of Cleopatra III's image See [[Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Images]]. However, I found a photo that depict the full scene from Kom Ombo. Now, this photo can fit the section of family, and depicts both prents (and the grandmother Cleopatra II). A source for this photo can be found: [https://books.google.com/books?id=2wtPDgAAQBAJ&pg=PA269 Martina Minas-Nerpel: Offering the ij.t-Knife to Haroeris in the Temple of Isis at Shanhūr. In the book: Illuminating Osiris: Egyptological Studies in Honor of Mark Smith, edited by Richard Jasnow, Ghislaine Widmer. Page 269]


A bust of dark basal was ascribed to Ptolemy X by [[:de:Helmut Kyrieleis|Helmut Kyrieleis]], with circumstantial arguments as the bust itself does not have an inscription and we have no idea what Ptolemy X looked like since the Ptolemaic kings after Ptolemy VIII and before Ptolemy XII did not have their images portrayed on their coins. The figure appearing on the coins of Ptolemy IX and Ptolemy X is Ptolemy I. For more info, see: [https://www.jstor.org/stable/40000489 A Royal Ptolemaic Bust in Alexandria. By Paul Edmund Stanwick. Journal of the American Research Center in Egypt Vol. 29 (1992). Page 135] and [https://books.google.com/books?id=Lm8mAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA70 R.R.R. Smith: Three Hellenistic Rulers at the Getty. in The J. Paul Getty Museum Journal: Volume 14, 1986 page 70.]
A bust of dark basal was ascribed to Ptolemy X by [[:de:Helmut Kyrieleis|Helmut Kyrieleis]], with circumstantial arguments as the bust itself does not have an inscription and we have no idea what Ptolemy X looked like since the Ptolemaic kings after Ptolemy VIII and before Ptolemy XII did not have their images portrayed on their coins. The figure appearing on the coins of Ptolemy IX and Ptolemy X is Ptolemy I. For more info, see: [https://www.jstor.org/stable/40000489 A Royal Ptolemaic Bust in Alexandria. By Paul Edmund Stanwick. Journal of the American Research Center in Egypt Vol. 29 (1992). Page 135], [https://books.google.com/books?id=cr3m0FWKJtcC&pg=PA58 Portraits of the Ptolemies: Greek Kings as Egyptian Pharaohs by Paul Edmund Stanwick. page 58], and [https://books.google.com/books?id=Lm8mAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA70 R.R.R. Smith: Three Hellenistic Rulers at the Getty. in The J. Paul Getty Museum Journal: Volume 14, 1986 page 70.]


Yes, the article does not have much photos, but we should not add photos for the sake of them. They should stick to accuracy and manual of style guidelines. If a photo of Cleopatra III is to be added, then it should at least stay within its section without scaling it down in a way that goes against the general images size of the article. Uniformity of style should be taken into account in a featured article.--[[User:Attar-Aram syria|Attar-Aram syria]] ([[User talk:Attar-Aram syria|talk]]) 10:59, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
Yes, the article does not have much photos, but we should not add photos for the sake of them. They should stick to accuracy and manual of style guidelines. If a photo of Cleopatra III is to be added, then it should at least stay within its section without scaling it down in a way that goes against the general images size of the article. Uniformity of style should be taken into account in a featured article.--[[User:Attar-Aram syria|Attar-Aram syria]] ([[User talk:Attar-Aram syria|talk]]) 10:59, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

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Auletes was not Illegitimate

He was the Son of Cleopatra IV

I see you are rewriting other articles to reflect your beliefs. I'm not clear why you seem to be so certain about relationships where scholars are uncertain. In this case see Ptolemy XII Auletes and sources such as [1] --Dougweller (talk) 11:19, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well it shouldn't be stated for certain either way then. http://www.tyndalehouse.com/Egypt/ptolemies/ptolemy_xii.htm#Auletes.05 I think Cleopatra III's forcing Ptolemy XI him to divorce Cleopatra IV is the origin of the false belief that Auletes was illegitimate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.92.229.89 (talk) 10:48, 1 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
IV is 4 right. I suck t roman numerals sorry MAO6104 (talk) 20:56, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Photos

Images in Wiki articles are supposed to enhance the reading and help the article visually. An image too big to fit in its own section does not fulfill his duty, as in the case of Cleopatra III's image See Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Images. However, I found a photo that depict the full scene from Kom Ombo. Now, this photo can fit the section of family, and depicts both prents (and the grandmother Cleopatra II). A source for this photo can be found: Martina Minas-Nerpel: Offering the ij.t-Knife to Haroeris in the Temple of Isis at Shanhūr. In the book: Illuminating Osiris: Egyptological Studies in Honor of Mark Smith, edited by Richard Jasnow, Ghislaine Widmer. Page 269

A bust of dark basal was ascribed to Ptolemy X by Helmut Kyrieleis, with circumstantial arguments as the bust itself does not have an inscription and we have no idea what Ptolemy X looked like since the Ptolemaic kings after Ptolemy VIII and before Ptolemy XII did not have their images portrayed on their coins. The figure appearing on the coins of Ptolemy IX and Ptolemy X is Ptolemy I. For more info, see: A Royal Ptolemaic Bust in Alexandria. By Paul Edmund Stanwick. Journal of the American Research Center in Egypt Vol. 29 (1992). Page 135, Portraits of the Ptolemies: Greek Kings as Egyptian Pharaohs by Paul Edmund Stanwick. page 58, and R.R.R. Smith: Three Hellenistic Rulers at the Getty. in The J. Paul Getty Museum Journal: Volume 14, 1986 page 70.

Yes, the article does not have much photos, but we should not add photos for the sake of them. They should stick to accuracy and manual of style guidelines. If a photo of Cleopatra III is to be added, then it should at least stay within its section without scaling it down in a way that goes against the general images size of the article. Uniformity of style should be taken into account in a featured article.--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 10:59, 18 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]