Talk:Ringworm affair

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—Anthøny 23:33, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Lead

The statements in the lead are not contained in the sources given. I've retained those sources, but added fact templates. I've also removed the direct copy and pastes from other websites to mitigate the blatant copyvios. Kyaa the Catlord 11:06, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Actually, they are. The statements are backed up in the articles proper which is fully referenced. You are probably only reading the PubMed abstracts to the articles. Here is the actual text in the articles that back up the statements:

In the intro to "Long-term follow-up for brain tumor development after childhood exposure to ionizing radiation for tinea capitis":

Between 1948 and 1960, about 20,000 Israeli individuals, particularly children, were treated with ionizing radiation to the head area for tinea capitis, a benign fungal disease of the scalp. This population was composed mostly of newly arrived immigrants from North Africa and to a lesser extent from the Middle East.

In the intro to "Skin Cancer after X-Ray Treatment for Scalp Ringworm":

X-ray treatment for tinea capitis (scalp ringworm) infections was introduced before 1910 and became the therapy of choice for severe tinea capitis infections until 1959, when griseofulvin®, the first effective antifungal agent for ringworm, was introduced. Between 1940 and 1959, several thousand patients were treated for ringworm of the scalp at New York University-Bellevue Hospital in New York City. Since this was a referral center, patients often had advanced or refractory tinea capitis, so the majority received X-ray treatment. A sufficient X-ray dose was given, typically to five overlapping fields on the scalp, to cause complete temporary epilation. It has been estimated that approximately 200,000 children worldwide received X-ray treatment for tinea capitis.

--MPerel 14:49, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

This diff suggests that 2/3rds of this article was removed on the day you were having this discussion - I see no explanation in Talk. Some of the removed material concerns an award-winning documentary on this case. The encyclopedia should mention this film, even if it's now totally discredited (which I don't think it is). PR^talk 13:58, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

You really should review the AfD discussion. You should also do some more investigation and then you would realize that this article was copy and pasted from other websites as a gigantic copyright violation. Kyaa the Catlord 14:17, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The ringworm children affair

Editors interested in this article are advised of the above AfD, which was closed as "Keep" under the condition of an enlistment at Wikipedia:Copyright problems. Any willing parties are requested to list this article at that page, per the AfD closure terms. Please note that if the enlistment at Wikipedia:Copyright problems is not undertaken, or fails to satisfactorily meet WP:COPYVIO's standards, then this article (and The ringworm children affair (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)) will, in all likelihood, be deleted.

Kind regards,
Anthøny 23:37, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

The above requests by the admin who closed the afd have not been carried out. Might be time for another go at afd. (Left a message at his talk.) Kyaa the Catlord (talk) 15:27, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Conspiracy theory

Shouldn't it at least be mentioned that there is one, and that's what the documentary is about? Funkynusayri (talk) 18:47, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree. The page, as I found it, didn't make mention of any controversy at all: it didn't give any explanation of why this was a notable 'affair' rather than a routine programme. I added some lines to the lead outlining the issue as I understand it, taken from information on the Chaim Sheba page. The section on the documentary should also probably be expanded, to say what claims it makes about the affair. Terraxos (talk) 03:13, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Minor typographical edits

removal of childish, unprofessional, defensive and emotive (sarcastic) quotes around the word [documentary] in the section titled Scientific evidence. The existence of the awarding winning documentary referred therein is a proven fact and not an opinion; whether or not an editor agrees with the conclusions of the documentary or not. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia not an opinion column. 184.162.96.181 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:42, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

How are the documentary makers' names spelled?

From the same section:

A documentary film in Hebrew entitled "The Ringworm Children" (Yaldei Hagazezet), produced by the Dimona Communications Center and directed by Asher Nachmias and David Balchasan was released in 2003...

The Ringworm Children directed by David Belhassen and Asher Hemias. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.91.239.10 (talk) 15:54, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

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Very poor sources for very major claims

How is Richard Silverstein, a conspiracy nut, being sourced as a quote for extraordinary claims such as that "6,000 victims died within a year"? All the claims regarding the excessive amount of radiation administrated to the children are all sourced back to the Conspiracy Theory Movie or worse... to reviews of the movie, there is no single reputable source making any of the very severe claims in this article.

There are far more reliable sources that deal with this affair, such as Israeli National Ringworm Research institute.