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– WP:COMMONNAME. Beginning this college athletics season (2018–19), national media is starting to use simply "Nicholls", following Nicholls State University branding its athletics programs simply as "Nicholls" on its official website. For instance, the Associated Press recap of the Nicholls football team's upset of Kansas has this headline: "Fourcade leads Nicholls to 26-23 overtime win over Kansas". In contrast, the AP's recap of a 2017 game against Texas A&M is headlined, "Bussey's TD in helps Aggies to 24-14 win over Nicholls St." Also, the ESPN college football standings page uses "Nicholls Colonels", and the STATS LLC Top 25 poll uses "Nicholls".

On the basketball side, the AP was still using "Nicholls State" as late as December 2017 despite occasionally using just "Nicholls" back in the 2016-17 season, and ESPN's college basketball standings page (still showing the 2017-18 season, not yet updated for the upcoming season) uses "Nicholls St" so I am only including articles about Nicholls sports beginning with the 2018–19 school year. Arbor to SJ (talk) 05:56, 2 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Oppose the university is still called Nicholls State, and other sources [1] [2] still use Nicholls State. Possibly too soon if the official recommendation just changed at the start of the school year; by November or December it may be more clear. power~enwiki (π, ν) 15:59, 2 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nicholls State University athletics has branded itself as simply "Nicholls" as early as 2011. However, only this year did national media follow suit. ESPN's national broadcast of this game is titled "Nicholls vs. Kansas", and the official box score (that gets distributed nationally) uses just "Nicholls". In contrast, only sources within the states of Kansas and Louisiana still use "Nicholls State", such as the Topeka Capital-Journal [3] and The Times-Picayune of New Orleans editing an AP article to add "State" after "Nicholls" in the headline, "Chase Fourcade leads Nicholls State to overtime win at Kansas", while still using simply "Nicholls" within the story. Meanwhile, an original feature story about Fourcade in the Times-Picayune used "Nicholls State" once then "Nicholls" the rest of the way [4].

Also, just because a university uses "State" in its name doesn't mean it uses "State" in athletics branding. The article about Stephen F. Austin State University sports omits "State" in its name: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks and Ladyjacks, for instance.

Bottom line: Wikipedia article titles should reflect what people see in the national news media. Arbor to SJ (talk) 23:21, 2 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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 On the basketball side, the AP was still using "Nicholls State" [https://collegebasketball.ap.org/teams/nicholls-state as late as December 2017] despite occasionally using just "Nicholls" back in the 2016-17 season, and ESPN's college basketball standings page (still showing the 2017-18 season, not yet updated for the upcoming season) [http://www.espn.com/ncb/standings uses "Nicholls St"] so I am only including articles about Nicholls sports beginning with the 2018–19 school year. [[User:Arbor to SJ|Arbor to SJ]] ([[User talk:Arbor to SJ|talk]]) 05:56, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
 * '''Weak Oppose''' the university is still called [[Nicholls State]], and other sources [https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/kansas-football-continues-to-embarrass-itself-falls-to-fcs-nicholls-state-in-overtime/] [https://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article217720220.html] still use Nicholls State.  Possibly too soon if the official recommendation just changed at the start of the school year; by November or December it may be more clear. [[User:power~enwiki|power~enwiki]] ([[User talk:Power~enwiki|<span style="color:#FA0;font-family:courier">π</span>]], [[Special:Contributions/Power~enwiki|<span style="font-family:courier">ν</span>]]) 15:59, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
+::Nicholls State University athletics has branded itself as simply "Nicholls" [https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sites/nicholls.sidearmsports.com/documents/2011/8/31/2011_FB_GUIDE_FINAL_BW.pdf as early as 2011]. However, only this year did national media follow suit. [[ESPN]]'s national broadcast of this game is titled "[http://www.espn.com/watch/player?bucketId=10889&id=e966a13f-a3f3-4bbd-b3c3-8b677a8d2906 Nicholls vs. Kansas]", and the [https://kuathletics.com/boxscore.aspx?path=football&id=12897 official box score] (that gets distributed nationally) uses just "Nicholls". In contrast, only sources within the states of Kansas and Louisiana still use "Nicholls State", such as the ''[[Topeka Capital-Journal]]'' [http://www.cjonline.com/sports/20180902/hard-knock-life-beaty-ku-football-tumble-to-fcs-nicholls-state-in-overtime-26-23] and ''[[The Times-Picayune]]'' of New Orleans editing an AP article to ''add'' "State" after "Nicholls" in the headline, "[https://www.nola.com/sports/index.ssf/2018/09/chase_fourcade_leads_nicholls.html Chase Fourcade leads Nicholls State to overtime win at Kansas]", while still using simply "Nicholls" within the story. Meanwhile, an original feature story about Fourcade in the ''Times-Picayune'' used "Nicholls State" once then "Nicholls" the rest of the way [https://www.nola.com/expo/sports/erry-2018/09/36b15b44eb809/meet-chase-fourcade-a-college.html].
+::Also, just because a university uses "State" in its name doesn't mean it uses "State" in athletics branding. The article about [[Stephen F. Austin State University]] sports omits "State" in its name: [[Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks and Ladyjacks]], for instance.
+::Bottom line: Wikipedia article titles should reflect what people see in the national news media. [[User:Arbor to SJ|Arbor to SJ]] ([[User talk:Arbor to SJ|talk]]) 23:21, 2 September 2018 (UTC)