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Notice to Guitarist Project members

An Admin, unfamiliar with the project, has nominated our template-Template:Guitarist infobox-for deletion. I have added a vote to keep it...more would help. Anger22 12:01, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Template:Tlfact

I think it's better if you don't "subst" fact templates. I could be wrong, but I think it unneccessarily clutters the wiki-text. Thanks, Mak (talk) 03:51, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Thesaurus

Hi ! Well, leaving the link was not any kind of experimenting, I see Foyz.com as relevant site for external links. As I can see there are some links there that you left, that arent in any case more relevant to article that Foyz.com is. But you're the boss ...and it seems you like to play with "experimenting" and "test" words. Well, enjoy in it then.. Cheers, Almir —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 89.146.131.62 (talk • contribs) 20:29, 21 Oct 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Guitarists Newsletter - Issue II - October 2006

The October 2006 issue of the WikiProject Guitarists newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. Aguerriero (talk) 21:02, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Crank (film)

Hi Moeron, I just had an edit I did to the Crank Film page reverted. The information I added was correct and as far as I can tell shouldn't have been reverted. Did I make some sort of mistake?

Thanks -- 70.24.154.235 03:16, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Strange rejection

If you believe this edit should not have been reverted, please contact me. -- moe.RON

I added this to the "Love and War" page. It's an unique and serious project in many ways. For some reason it got rejected. / Tomas

• "Love and War", a 2006 short film by Fredrik Emilson. Probably the world’s first animated opera. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.232.171.126 (talk • contribs) 03:16, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I reverted the edit because there was a link to an off-site webpage in a disambugation page. As long as you keep the link out, it would fine for you to add "Love and War", a 2006 short film by Fredrik Emilson. (noticed I also removed the "probably" part, since that is speculation and implies something that is not verifiable). -- moe.RON ^{talk | done | doing} 03:16, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Your Revert

I don't feel my edit[1] was a test, as you labeled it, nor do I feel your warning was justifiable. The template you used is for obvious vandalism/tests; my edit was a neutral statement with a reference. The correct course of action on your part would have been to discuss your problem with my addition on the article's talk page. - 81.178.102.118 01:54, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

This edit was reverted because forums are not a reliable source due to original research. -- moe.RON ^{talk | done | doing} 01:56, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

You're confusing policies, original research isn't the same as unreliable sources, but you have a point (the practicalities of editing esoteric or popular culture articles means that often what are generally considered unreliable sources are given exception, see: WP:IAR). In any case this doesn't excuse your inappropriate use of vandalism templates, or deletion of the statement (especially considering there's another statement in the same paragraph without any reference.) Overzealous vandalism patrolling isn't the best way to attempt to become an admin, in my opinion, but that doesn't seem to prevent a vast swathe of relatively recent editors from doing it. Sigh. - 81.178.102.118 02:05, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

In any case, I've changed the reference. - 81.178.102.118 02:08, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I just want you know that I never considered you a vandal, but perhaps a Wikipedian newbie. When this the case, I will use the template:test1 warning, which does not make mention of a vandal, and hopefully directs people in the right direction. For people who ARE vandals, there are other warnings I will use. I just don't want you thinking that my revision of your edit makes me think you are a vandal. =)

As for the sources ... I like the first one, but I am still bothered by the forums link, re: Wikipedia:No original research. However, it gets tricky when you possibly consider it under the sixth point of Wikipedia:No_original_research#What_is_excluded.3F. Due to this ambuiguity, I humbly ask if you would consider removing the forum source and leaving the other to stand for itself. Cheers! -- moe.RON ^{talk | done | doing} 02:18, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

"but perhaps a Wikipedian newbie." I've been editing Wikipedia on and off since 2003. - 81.178.102.118 02:24, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I meant to say that is how I view most IPs when assessing vandalism.. -- moe.RON ^{talk | done | doing} 02:32, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Ah right. To be fair, I suppose that's probably an accurate assumption for the most part. - 81.178.102.118 02:35, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Article "Test"

Hello,

there's a typo in your disambiguation page "Test". The bullet "Stiftung Wahrentest Test" is supposed to be "Stiftung Warentest" (without h). The same typo reoccurs in the WikiLink at the beginning of that bullet.

Cheers Klaus — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.225.18.134 (talk • contribs)

I see that you are correct and that my reversion of your edit was in error. I apologize and will remove the template:test1 from your talk page. Cheers! -- moe.RON ^{talk | done | doing} 02:25, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Coil Live

dont know what the problem is, i plan on basing it off of this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangerine_Tree i just started on it so i plan on expanding the text into a full article, as well as a comprehensive concert list. AlexOvShaolin 21:18, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I see nothing wrong with you "expanding the text into a full article" but when it comes to a "comprehensive concert list", based on WP:NOT and WP:NOT#Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, it is generally frowned upon. I will gladly removed the template:prod when you are satified with your edits to this being a complete article. -- moe.RON ^{talk | done | doing} 21:25, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Please don't subst speedy templates

Please don't subst db-bio and other speedy deletion templates; it makes it slightly more annoying to delete the articles (since the log won't have the self-explanatory "content was: '{{db-bio}}"...' preloaded); it makes it more difficult to remove the template from a non-speedyable article; and some, like db-bio, don't show up properly when substed. —Cryptic 01:20, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to Novels WikiProject

Hi, and welcome to the Novels WikiProject! As you may have guessed, we're a group of editors working to improve Wikipedia's coverage of topics related to fiction books often referred to as "Novels".

A few features that you might find helpful:

• Our navigation box points to most of the useful pages within the project.
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  While you are updating your userpage, don't forget our userbox {{User WikiProject Novels}}.
• The project has a monthly newsletter; it will normally be delivered as a link, but other methods are available.

There are a variety of interesting things to do within the project; you're free to participate however much—or little—you like:

• Starting some new articles? Our article structure guidelines / template outlines some things to include.

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask one of the members, and we'll be happy to help you. Again, welcome! We look forward to seeing you around! :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 08:03, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Regarding baron.

Firstly, I didn't write anything; the information posted came DIRECTLY FROM THE OFFICIAL WEBSITE, which, I'm sure you noticed, was also added to the page.

Methinks that the reason you consider it to be garbage is because it deals with an openly gay African-American man. Check yourself, love, before you judge others.

75.3.114.228 01:48, 20 October 2006 (UTC)Hero

Ahh, I apologize. I reverted the edit because I thought you removed the template:prod without adding to the article. Reviewing my revert, I see that you indeed added a good amount of information. Thank you for pointing this out to me and, again, I apologize for my hasty actions. Cheers! -- moe.RON ^{talk | done | doing} 01:55, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Your deletion on my links

I want to tell you the links I proposed are well-researched, very thorough, contains no hate and would be an asset to Wikipedia. My question: did you read them before removing? Try that short one: http://www.geocities.com/b_d_muller/index.html , an introduction for my many pages. Note: that site has been posted as a link, for a long time (please don't remove it!) on Wikipedia pages about 'historical Jesus', 'historicity of Jesus' and 'Jesus myth'. Maybe I am not a registered scholar, but I thought Wikipedia was not all about propagating the work of professionals. I consider myself more of a critical & investigative amateur historian, with burning (but not blinding) passion about the history of very early Christianity. And my approach (and background) should be commanded in a field "controlled" by many scholars (most of them on a payroll) with very different opinions & theories (which would prove that scholarly works, in this specific field, may be the problem, not the solution). I must admit I am very annoyed when my pages are rejected, mainly because some existing links are of bad quality, very biased or totally irrelevant (Check the last link on the 'Ignatius of Antioch' page --'Ignatius of Nerdtreehouse'). (BTW, I would love to attract your attention on these bad links, after reviewing them, of course). I did participate about one year ago into editing the 'Jesus' page. But that was very discouraging, with my work being often chopped down by evangelical Christians, even after some very long discussions. Doing so, I declared my own name (as I do on my website, with my personal email) and I had my own Wikipedia ID (which I forgot). I hope to be in contact with you. Please note I can have my sites posted by someone else (in compliance with Wikipedia policy) and my webpages are ad-free. Bernard Muller, mullerb@shaw.ca — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.145.170.106 (talk • contribs)

I was about to write pretty close to what Andrew c says here. I will also mention that WP:EL mentions that when dealing with your own site, be it self-published or your company, it is generally accepted to first bring the page to light on the talk page of the page your wish to have it added to. Then, users who contribute to the page can discuss it and decided whether to add it as a reference/external link. -- moe.RON ^{talk | done | doing} 02:07, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Regarding the editing of the Lake Central High School page

Did you really read the page? Or just my recent addition? Do you really think the original Dyer High School building ws built in the 1400's??? Before the U.S. existed? Do you think they really have billions of students??? This whole page is a farce. I suppose you think the freshmen center was built in 1747-Before the United States was officially founded and our educational system did not even have a formatted high school system, therefore no FRESHMEN!!!!

Thanks for your vigilance in ensuring the truth on these hallowed grounds! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.115.1.177 (talk • contribs) 01:43, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

I have reverted to an edit on the page before the above such lunacies were added. Thank you for pointing out these long term vandal edits. -- moe.RON ^{talk | done | doing} 01:43, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Talk page warnings

Hi Moeron. Twice in two minutes tonight (or maybe its morning or afternoon for you - whatever) you've warned users whose vandalism I've reverted. If you used the standard templates, this wouldn't be a problem at all, as it is irrelevant to me who warns a vandal in most cases. However, the templates you're using specifically use the text "edit that I reverted" - as you can see here and here, I was the one who reverted the nonsensical additions, and we're going to hopelessly confuse newbies if we say we've reverted vandalism someone else nabbed. I'm not sure if it is possible with VP2, but if it is, I'd like to request that when you warn a user with a warning that involves the text "edit that I reverted" you make sure that you were the one that reverted it. Not a big deal of course, but it would make things easier on them and me. Thanks. Picaroon9288 02:03, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

I understand your concerns with WP:VP2, but the problem seems to come when two editors are quick to act (which is a good thing!). Since VP2 is still in early developement, there is no way to "shut off" the 'edit I have made' function and/or check to see if someone has reverted at the same time as me. This isn't the first time this has happened (once or twice with AntiVandalBot) and I really wish there was something that could be done to make sure that I was the one who made the edit before leaving the warning. -- moe.RON ^{talk | done | doing} 02:32, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Flavor Of Love

I was expressing a widely held opinion shared by most viewers. I am trying to teach the individuals in question that you cannot get on national TV, and make a complete ass of yourself, without consequences. It is better that I do this, then find them and beat some respect and common descency into them.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.225.24.120 (talk • contribs)

What you added in and what I removed is WP:POV unless backed up by reliable sources, since Wikipedia is about verifiability, not truth. -- moe.RON ^{talk | done | doing} 00:10, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

bullshit! If wikipedia was factual, why is it that it can't be used on a senior project paper?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.225.24.120 (talk • contribs)

That sounds more like a question your teacher/professor should answer (if he hasn't already). -- moe.RON ^{talk | done | doing} 17:56, 21 October 2006 (UTC)