Jump to content

Talk:Hebron: Difference between revisions

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Content deleted Content added
SSTbot (talk | contribs)
top: Added {{vital article}}
Dorpwnz (talk | contribs)
Line 101: Line 101:
Joshua 14 says the original name of Hebron was Kiriath-Arba - before conquest by Joshua. It is not mentioned anywhere in this article. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/86.144.22.165|86.144.22.165]] ([[User talk:86.144.22.165#top|talk]]) 13:30, 24 March 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Joshua 14 says the original name of Hebron was Kiriath-Arba - before conquest by Joshua. It is not mentioned anywhere in this article. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/86.144.22.165|86.144.22.165]] ([[User talk:86.144.22.165#top|talk]]) 13:30, 24 March 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::It's already mentioned under the History (Canaanite period) section.[[User:Davidbena|Davidbena]] ([[User talk:Davidbena|talk]]) 12:09, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
::It's already mentioned under the History (Canaanite period) section.[[User:Davidbena|Davidbena]] ([[User talk:Davidbena|talk]]) 12:09, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

== even the largest amount of arabs coming to settle in hebron won't turn it into a "palestinian" city ==

jewish city ,then (antiquity ) and forever.

Revision as of 02:26, 3 October 2018

Template:Vital article



Semi-protected edit request on 17 April 2017

The first line of the first actual paragraph contains an error. Hebron is not a city in Israel. It's a city in Palestine or, if the site prefers this language, the Palestinian Territories. 73.250.177.191 (talk) 23:31, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You are absolutely correct. Shame on us all for letting this be in the article for over a week. Fixed now. Huldra (talk) 23:39, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Whether or not Hebron is a city in Israel or Palestine is highly controversial. Palestine (even if it's called the Palestinian Territories) is not recognized by the United States, Canada, most Western European countries, Japan, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand, etc. and Israel claims that territory too. Under Wikipedia:NPOV, Wikipedia should be neutral, and not take sides in this conflict. The fact that Hebron is described at the beginning of this article, I believe, violates Wikipedia:NPOV. Wikier1010 (talk) 11:02, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hebron is a Palestinian city, and is not in Israel. There is nothing controversial in stating that.Nishidani (talk) 13:27, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
There are people out there who would tell you that Hebron is an Israeli city, and many who would tell you that Hebron is a Palestinian city. Israel claims Hebron, just as the Palestinian Authority does. What makes the Palestinian claim the only valid one? By definition, this is a controversial matter. I understand that you believe that Hebron is a Palestinian city, but that does not mean that everybody does, and I fail to see how it does not violate Wikipedia:NPOV to take a side and call it a Palestinian city. Wikier1010 (talk) 19:34, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
THANK YOU! I was shocked to see such a blatant POV violation in the very opening of this article. How on earth are we supposed to be able to trust Wikipedia if this sort of thing is allowed to stay in, & no one is allowed to fix it? FlaviaR —Preceding undated comment added 05:03, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I edited the first paragraph slightly, so it just says that it's a city in the West Bank, and the second largest claimed by Palestine. I think that now everything is a fact that cannot be disputed. Wikier1010 (talk) 20:00, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

User:Wikier1010, Firstly, you don't have 500 edits, so you should not be editing this article. (Please read that big yellow sign at the top of this page.) Secondly, you added "claimed by the State of Palestine"....as if that was disputed. It isn't. Israel occupies Hebron, yes, but it has never annexed it, or "claimed it" in any legal way. Huldra (talk) 20:45, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I just figured that it would block me from editing if I wasn't allowed (I'm using a mobile device and there's no yellow sign anywhere for me). Sorry, and thanks to whoever fixed that.
Anyway, Israel claims the entire West Bank, which includes Hebron (if you look at the official maps provided by the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the entire West Bank is within the Israeli borders, indicating that the government regards the territory as theirs), as does Palestine, and I stand by my wish for this to be edited to reflect the controversy instead of clearly agreeing with the belief that Hebron is a Palestinian state. As with all Wikipedia articles, this entire article should contain only information which is completely factual - meaning there are no valid alternative viewpoints to the information presented in the article. Wikier1010 (talk) 00:15, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You are mistaken. Despite the maps, Israel does not regard the West Bank (except East Jerusalem) as part of its territory. There has never been an act of annexation even though many Knesset members would like one. Israel uses the fact that the West Bank is under Belligerent Occupation to run a separate court system and many other different administrative systems there. Besides that, even if Israel claimed sovereignty in the West Bank (which it doesn't) we would present the opinion of the entire rest of the world first and only mention Israel's position later. Zerotalk 02:44, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 4 external links on Hebron. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

  • If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
  • If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 22:49, 19 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 30 August 2017

The dairy company in Hebron is spelled Al Juneidi, not as spelled in the article. Hennesseystealth (talk) 23:10, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's spelled al-Junaidi in other parts of the world. We have to respect a WP:WORLDVIEW. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 23:15, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Done: There is no such thing as a global perspective on company names (but for the record if you search for it you can find "Al Juneidi" elsewhere too). We aren't entitled to claim that a company can't spell its own name. See its webpage for that. Zerotalk 01:19, 31 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 2 external links on Hebron. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

  • If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
  • If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 05:12, 1 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 4 external links on Hebron. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

  • If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
  • If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 23:49, 2 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Kiriath-Arba

Joshua 14 says the original name of Hebron was Kiriath-Arba - before conquest by Joshua. It is not mentioned anywhere in this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.144.22.165 (talk) 13:30, 24 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It's already mentioned under the History (Canaanite period) section.Davidbena (talk) 12:09, 25 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

even the largest amount of arabs coming to settle in hebron won't turn it into a "palestinian" city

jewish city ,then (antiquity ) and forever.