Talk:2018 Bangabandhu Cup

Philippines or Philippines 'B'

@FilFootyGuy: and @Swanlake1224:, please have a discussion about the issue here. Instead of doing an edit war, we can have a healthy discussion and then take the action likewise.--Anbans 585 (talk) 07:07, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

@Anbans 585: and @MelanieN:, The name of the country is Philippines. Even the scoreboard in Bangabandhu Gold Cup 2018 TV coverage shows "Philippines" not Philippines 'B'. --Swanlake1224

@Anbans 585: and @MelanieN:, The official site also called this team as Philippines not Philippines 'B'. --Swanlake1224

@Anbans 585: and @MelanieN:, In the Philippines national football team wikipedia page, the team in Bangabandhu Gold Cup 2018 is called Philippines not Philippines 'B.'--Swanlake1224

@Swanlake1224: So why exactly does FilFootyGuy want to name the team as Philippines 'B'?--Anbans 585 (talk) 10:36, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

It is sourced that the standard of the Philippine team is the second team. This means it is the second string side aka the 'B' team! Obviously it's the "Philippines" that are competing! But that's not issue here. The issue/question is, "what Philippine team is competing?" As sourced, it is the second string side! Hence, "Philippines 'B'" There are no two ways about it! This is just you, Swanlake1224, being immature about the "name of the country". This is the same thing if it was the U-23's there were competing. You wouldn't just leave it as "Philippines" now would you? Look at the previous editions of the tournament. There were U-23 teams that have competed. Would you still leave it as simply "Bangladesh" (for 2016 edition), or simpy "Bahrain" or "Thailand" etc (2015 edition) when it was the U-23's? Of course not! Your sources are also pointless and don't give the full picture. The Bangladesh Football Federation's website for the 2015 edition for example doesn't list the any of the teams as U-23's yet most teams were the U-23's. There is no issue here except for your immaturity! FilFootyGuy (talk) 11:37, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Well if we consider the previous editions then, ya I think that the label of the 'B' can be considered. But here me out, here is a thing, you both may follow international football right? If so, then you may remember the 2017 FIFA Confederations Cup in Russia. According to many media reports Germany sent their 'B' team to the tournament and eventually won it. Though Germany sent their 'B' team, they played the matches under the name Germany and not Germany 'B', even if its the 'B' team, FIFA awarded points for each of those matches for Germany. Now in the previous edition where the Bangladesh U23 team participated, in that case FIFA didn't award any points for the matches being played by the Bangladesh U23. You can check the fact about Philippines getting points for the matches here.

In a similar fashion, last month Denmark played with a team full of semi-professional footballers, due to rift between their National FA and the player's association. Technically the team which played that friendly was a 'E' team or so, but when the team participated for the match then they represented Denmark and also got points for the match played. All in all, you would never find on a sports website about the match being labelled Denmark 'E' v Slovakia. But you may definitely find the name as the U-23 team if they are participating under the label of the U-23 team.--Anbans 585 (talk) 14:30, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

I think we shouldn't include "B". Officially Philippines send their national team, not national B team. How do you confirm its their official B team and not C or D team? Do you have any official source? আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 14:33, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Of course Germany played as "Germany"! It's an official FIFA competition! The Bangabandhu Cup is just some small time invitational tournament which started outside of the international window! As for the Denmark situation it's different. There was a rift which made things complicated. In this case, there is no rift or whatever else. The squad of the Philippines automatically proves it isn't the full national team. In fact, the coaching staff is different as well. This team being a second team is sourced which I did myself. This is via the Bangladesh Daily Star. It's in the article in the participating teams section. Within that article, someone from the coaching staff admitted they only brought reserve players. Furthermore, the Philippines' full national team is already in Qatar for a training camp ahead of a friendly with Oman on October 13! You can't have two separate teams in two countries and label them both as the full national team! Imagine if the Philippines reached the final which would have been played on the 12th and then you factor in the friendly on the 13th. There's no way. Again, there is no issue here! "Philippines B" stands! Getting ranking points also doesn't mean squat! India sent their U-23's for the recently concluded SAFF Suzuki Cup. Yet all their matches are recognized by FIFA and therefore got ranking points. So with your logic, India actually sent their full national team.... which is wrong! FilFootyGuy (talk) 15:08, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

@Anbans 585: and @আফতাবুজ্জামান:, In the Philippines national under-23 football team wikipedia page, by looking in the schedule and results, the name is still "Philippines" beside the flag. --Swanlake1224