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Please remember to sign your messages on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or , and a volunteer should respond shortly. Again, welcome! Gian (talk) 06:01, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome Gian. I confess I'm slightly surprised by the welcome, since I've been editing Wikipedia for a few years now (albeit somewhat sporadically!), but thanks all the same.Girth Summit (talk) 18:42, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Reflexology

I guess you have some arguments supporting your undo of my edit on reflexology. Please tell me. --Blindvei (talk) 19:48, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

I've replied on your talk page; I didn't undo your edit, that was someone else, but I've explained why I think they did it.Girth Summit (talk) 23:50, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Pinging users

Hi Girth Summit,

I only just saw your now two-week old comment here. Please be aware that templates are available to draw the attention of users you are dressing; see {{ping}}, {{re}}, and others. You don't have to use those, although they're convenient; you can also just link the username, like this: Hi, [[User:Mathglot|]], Regarding your post... and the user will be alerted by the notifications system that you are pinging them. More at WP:TALK and Help:Talk pages. It isn't necessary to ping a user on their own talk page, but anywhere else, it's considered a courtesy; unless they say "I'm watching this page," or, "I have this page watchlisted," which is their way of saying, "Don't ping me, please." One peculiarity of the Notifications system: if you misspell someone's name in a notification and then fix it later, you must change your sig (i.e., add a new ~~~~ at the end) or the notification won't be issued. HTH, Mathglot (talk) 21:32, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Mathglot. (I hope that ping worked correctly!) I'll start pinging people in future. In that instance, I'd assumed that you would be notified of the revert and would look at the talk page, but I suppose you edit a lot of pages and don't have time to investigate every change. The tip is appreciated.Girth Summit (talk) 07:41, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

As you can see, it did! Best, Mathglot (talk) 07:45, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

Thank you

This is excellent advice. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 19:18, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. It took a bit of time to type, but if it helps everyone avoid a repeat of yesterday's events, I'll consider it time well spent!Girth Summit (talk) 19:31, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

ANI

You are generous, but this was not remotely a fair comment from an admin who should know better. You expressed yourself perfectly well, and appropriately, and don't let that foolish reply make you think otherwise. Grandpallama (talk) 11:04, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Grandpallama. Thought it best to err on the side of caution and explain what I meant in less confrontational language. Glad you could see what I was getting at! Girth Summit (talk) 11:11, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

I mean, that certainly speaks well of your thoughtfulness, and good on you for taking the high road, but it was an inane statement to make about your original comment; nothing you said was confrontational or unwarranted, which is what bugged me about the response. Again, admins should (and generally do) know better, but it's also possible that a history of such comments from that particular admin may make me especially annoyed when I see them directed at someone who is newer. Happy editing! :) Grandpallama (talk) 11:20, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

Glasgow and Weegies

In regards to the reverted edit on the Glasgow page [1] - I think you are wrong in this case. The two removed citations don't back up the claim, and the Peter Greenberg guide is 9 years old and written by an American. I can say confidently as someone from Glasgow that "weegie" is a very, very East-coast term (not always derogatory) and you would find it very rare to be used by someone from Glasgow.

A cursory google can back this up - I'm not fully up to scratch in Wikis citation quality requirements, but these pages should give you an idea:

https://www.reddit.com/r/glasgow/comments/1wz08j/the_weegie_words_20_terms_that_prove_you_come/ http://www.fivestarvisas.com/newsandviews/welcome-to-glasgow/ http://www.rsdb.org/slur/weegie https://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080426161932AAX3qg0&guccounter=1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.174.158.82 (talk) 16:01, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi 109.174.158.82, there is a bit of a problem with sourcing here, I agree. The Peter Greenberg guide isn't ideal - he's a recognised and respected journalist, with a widely read travel blog, but I agree he's not a renowned expert on Glasgow dialect. However, the ones you found in your Google search aren't usable - they're all self published sources/blogs from non-notable people/companies etc.

I think that the Evening Times article perhaps sheds the most light on this - it's a 2014 article from a Glasgow paper, written for a Glasgow audience, and it uses the term repeatedly - that would seem to suggest that it is used by people from the city. (FWIW, which isn't much, I'm from Glasgow and I use the term, and I know plenty of other Glaswegians who do likewise). Can you find any reliable sources saying differently? Girth Summit (talk) 16:33, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Yeah agreed, the sources are bad on both sides - which is my main reason for removing that section; there's nothing to back up the claim that we take on that moniker proudly. Personal experience tells me that it's not a term people from Glasgow use proudly, but as I say, it's rare not unheard of. I would say the two best sources to contest it are the rsdb link above, and this: https://lingomash.com/slang-meanings/19590/slang-meaning-of-wegie-weegie as well as the fact that most (Glasgow) user-posted comments in relation to the word seem to be negative.--Bryan5631 (talk) 08:48, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Bryan5631 I can't agree that those are the best of what is definitely a bad bunch - they're both user-generated content, with no obvious editorial oversight, so not verifiable. To my mind, the Evening Times is the best source, because it is a notable publisher based in Glasgow and written for a Glasgow audience. It is using the word, in what I would say is quite a proud way - however, I accept that that is different from it asserting that the word is used with pride, and inferring the one from the other probably involves an element of WP:OR or WP:SYNTH.

The only source that your edit left in the text was Peter Greenberg, and he doesn't say anywhere that it's disparaging - all he says is that Glaswegians wear it with pride. I've asked for comment about this at WP:RSN, so we can see what other editors think about the sourcing. If it's contentious, it might be best to remove all reference to the word from the article until some proper sources can be identified.Girth Summit (talk) 09:30, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

That's fair, you're right about the Evening Times having a bit more validation to it. I think it would be very hard to verify either side of the argument conclusively to be honest, as it is mostly an opinion-based statement - but waiting on inpu from other editors is a good idea.--Bryan5631 (talk) 010:19, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

RSN The Star (Malaysia)

Hi Girth Summit. At RSN, you wrote, actually giving information on how to donate to her charity. All I see is a contact email address. Are you seeing something else? --Ronz (talk) 14:55, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

HI Ronz It was the bit where it says Those who wish to help..., then gives phone numbers for two of the volunteers, and an e-mail address for her charity. I thought that was obviously a request for donations, but if you think that's a problematic inference I'd be happy to strike and reword? GirthSummit _(blether) 15:04, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Maybe a quote would be clearer. --Ronz (talk) 15:13, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Done.GirthSummit _(blether) 15:25, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Time series database

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Please comment on Talk:Foursquare

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September 2018

Please do not add unreferenced or poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Wikipedia about living (or recently deceased) persons. Thank you. --John (talk) 07:13, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

John That warning template is for use when someone is adding unreferenced controversial information about living persons. I added entirely uncontroversial material, with sources that were discussed on the talk page and at WP:RSN. Don't be so aggressive, and please just engage with the discussion on the talk page, and explain your position - so far, all you've done is drop links to policies, but you're not responding to any arguments about why they don't apply. GirthSummit _(blether) 10:28, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:List of cognitive biases

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A barnstar for you!

	The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
	Your recent advice to Willwill0415 has been both valuable and kind. GorillaWarfare (talk) 07:06, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Cheers, —PaleoNeonate – 16:28, 3 October 2018 (UTC)