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HABS pics for John Gridley House and in general
Hey, great u'r going to upload some HABS pics. I just cut and pasted in my HABS external link info, into the John Gridley House article which you created, by the way. To actually upload a HABS pic, the general process i follow is:
- select which HABS pic i want
- download to my computer the highest resolution version available of that pic
- open the pic in picture editing software (i use Microsoft Office Picture Manager)
- edit the pic to crop out the ugly borders present in almost all HABS images, which are not part of the photographer's work. Also I crop the pic to remove any caption info that is also not part of the photo (I don't see any such captions in the John Gridley House HABS pics though). I will capture any such caption text in the description area for the uploaded file
- save the pic with a descriptive name like, for the doorway pic that is 4th one available there, "JohnGridleyHouse_HABS NY 34-SYRA 4-4 cropped.jpg". Note i use "cropped" in the filename.
- upload the pic to commons like other pics. Hopefully being sure to add HABS photographer info, hopefully also a precise link both to the photo file URL and to the John Gridley House overall HABS webpage URL, etc. And I explain somehow that i was the person who cropped the file in 2009, while the photo was taken in 1970 or whenever. I usually have to go to a past example of my HABS uploading to find a model of the final description text.
hope this helps doncram (talk) 04:11, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- Yikes, maybe the highest resolution is too big. For one, there are available: "Larger reference image (JPEG - 120K bytes)", and "Highest resolution image (TIFF - 15475K bytes)". Actually the JPEG is fine, while 15 meg is not worth it. Anyhow, you go to the picture, click on it, scroll down, see those two options, click on Larger reference image one. Then, for me to save it, i right-click on the image itself, and get options including one to "Save file as..." which i pick. doncram (talk) 04:43, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Made it! Thanks for your help and encouragement. It's a first for WikiProject Cheshire. Peter I. Vardy (talk) 20:30, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Armory Square and other Syracuse Historic Districts
Hi, yes i do have an opinion, that indeed it is fine and appropriate to include a list of any or all of the contributing properties of a historic district in its article. I myself have edited some historic district articles towards that goal, could round up some examples if u like.
You could even choose to create a table of them if you like, as in our list-articles of individual NRHPs. That could allow for you to add pics and descriptions if you like. Or just list them and describe them to whatever extent you like. Probably some individual contributing properties are notable enough for separate articles, if you choose to create them, but many should be just listed and described in the overall district article.
There's been recent discussion at wt:NRHP about creating a separate article for contributing properties or not. Or maybe i am thinking of discussion about creating separate articles for delisted properties or not, in which i think it was Elkman who pointed out that they can be listed but separate articles are not usually needed. doncram (talk) 01:10, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Hey, i wonder if you'd be willing to help develop this article, just created by Bmpowell, and put it up for DYK sharing a credit to him. I butted in on a conversation at User talk:Nyttend which moved to my talk page and then to Talk:Nicholas County High School. Bmp was very nice about being guided on some things and then doing a nice job with the new article, which is in pretty good shape already. It doesn't look like he has DYKs in his record, and the article looks relatively easy to put up for DYK. I think you are better than me at what remains to be done.... :) doncram (talk) 00:19, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
- clock has only just started an hour or two ago. If you can, great, otherwise no big deal. Thanks! doncram (talk) 00:48, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
- I have had trouble with NPS files in recent days too. I couldn't download the Mary League house doc either. Also failed with some Minnesota MPS documents. Starts, but only downloads a little, and will never finish. Go ahead and inquire at NPS. doncram (talk) 23:48, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Re: Joseph and Mary Jane League House
I saw your note on Doncram's talk page just now; opening the page, I find that it downloads about 15 KB before stopping. To be sure, my Internet connection isn't the best, but if two different people are having trouble... Nyttend (talk) 01:31, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Syracuse RHPs
Lvklock - thanks for the note. It wasn't me on Sunday - I took these today. I'm actually not thrilled with my Walnut Ave photo - if you happened to take one on Sunday that's better, feel free to replace mine with it. It's great that the list is now complete! Crazyale (talk) 02:27, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
- For the Walnut Park Historic District article, I actually was looking for a way to narrow the infobox, but hadn't find it. By all means, show me. doncram (talk) 03:06, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
- The article layout works for my view in Firefox now, yes, but i think that is just because of having more text and moving the pic out of the NRHP infobox. I don't see any command changing the infobox width, did you use one? doncram (talk) 03:17, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
- Nope, I made the table narrower...but then I moved it back when you moved the pic out and added some text that made sense. :) Is it still OK? Lvklock (talk) 03:19, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, i thot i was missing something about the infobox. Yes, it is working fine in terms of no whitespace. Thanks! Awesome that you have pics of almost every one. What about the sorry last one? doncram (talk) 03:22, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
- The sorry last one didn't have a street number on the list in the nom form. From the map, i now know it's 907, and i'm pretty sure it's not there any more. I'll get back up there and take a pic of the empty lot when I can (I think it's part of a parking lot). Then the list will start and end with empty lots. Lvklock (talk) 03:31, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, i thot i was missing something about the infobox. Yes, it is working fine in terms of no whitespace. Thanks! Awesome that you have pics of almost every one. What about the sorry last one? doncram (talk) 03:22, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
- Nope, I made the table narrower...but then I moved it back when you moved the pic out and added some text that made sense. :) Is it still OK? Lvklock (talk) 03:19, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Walnut Park
As a an SU alum, I liked the Walnut Park article (and added it to the appropriate cat).
I suggest you go back in warmer weather and see about getting a picture of the whole district. If you can go up to the upper stories of Bird Library and shoot through the windows, you'll probably get the best possible picture with all the frat houses on the sides and the trees in the middle.
Also, it may be a long rectangle but it is not a linear park because it doesn't follow a road or watercourse or some sort of path.
See if you can find some good sourcing for when SU's spring block party was held there (from what I've found more recently via Google, it was moved indoors some time back, which makes sense because the weather at that time of year is awful about three-quarters of the time, but then it's a block party in name only). I have a lot of fond memories of that event. Daniel Case (talk) 19:29, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- I do use Firefox primarily, and I see what you're saying ... but think of it this way, the article will be expanded (OK, if you really want, I'll do it) eventually, and there will be text under the infobox and a table of contents. That's the way I always look at it. Daniel Case (talk) 03:43, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
invitation
You're invited to sign up as a founding member, at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#WikiProject Historic Sites ! :) doncram (talk) 05:20, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Historic Sites is opened up. I took the liberty of assuming your support for the wikiproject meant you wanted to join as a member, and I copied your signature to the Members list on the main page. Please visit and add to, or remove, your listing there. It would be great to hear about what you're interested in the Wikiproject becoming, in your member comment and/or at the Talk page, shortcut wt:HSITES. Thanks for your support! doncram (talk) 17:29, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Woolaroc
I see you created the article Woolaroc Ranch Historic District and doncram redirected Woolaroc Museum and Wildlife Preserve to it. There is also an existing article Woolaroc. Can these articles be merged? I know nothing about Woolaroc, but it is a museum in Oklahoma that is linked to List of museums in Oklahoma, and I thought it best to have the most complete article. Any help with this is appreciated. Jllm06 (talk) 21:33, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
- FYI to set up a redirect all you need is #redirect [[Woolaroc]]. doncram (talk) 16:46, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks, I thought it best for you to merge the articles as you thought appropriate.Jllm06 (talk) 01:39, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
World Heritage Site lists
You mentioned "I realized that likely most of the redlinks had articles, so I started in EUR checking for articles and pipelinking them, but now I'm thinking that i should possibly be setting up redirects instead....which is the way you'd normally do it?". I would be sure to set up redirects first, so that anyone searching on the exact WHS title for a site will find it. Then, afterwards, if u want to put in pipelinks so the wikilink goes directly to the article instead of via the redirect, you can do that (but it is then not really necessary). doncram (talk) 16:46, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks that's about APA region stuff being done. Will try to add some coordinates later, haveta run. doncram (talk) 01:50, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
canvassing
Perhaps you are unaware that the fact that the cited edit might be construed as canvassing was called to his attention at his talk page by Orlady, which I believe led to his comment here. I think a couple of isolated notes to specific individuals pales a little in comparison to your notices at Wikiproject Tennessee. If he had posted such notices at WP:NRHP, that would be comparable, and I would imagine that was a temptation. At any rate, I doubt that either of you intentionally violated the guideline/policy of WP:canvassing. Lvklock (talk) 20:35, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
- FWIW, posting at Wikiproject Tennessee seems to have elicited virtually no response (which isn't that surprising), but your point is taken. Kaldari (talk) 20:45, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
- The above is an out-of-context paste-in by Kaldari, from discussion at User talk:Kaldari#stop canvassing. There has been followup at Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship#inappropriate canvassing and Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship#further, coverup?, in which Kaldari at least concedes the appearance of vote-stacking, in response to mine and others' points expressed there. About his assertion above that his canvassing hadn't already yielded Tennessee votes, that seems to be contradicted in further discussion at the main "inappropriate canvassing" discussion. And the RfA is still open, so his apparent canvassing can still have effect. doncram (talk) 23:25, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
doncram (talk) 21:42, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Ottawa Street Power Station
You're welcome. Fladrif (talk) 16:31, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
states
MS has 2 involved, seems more imp. to keep going, and head off potential probs. GA, AR have no one, can wait. SC stable, should give it a little. NY Alb tending too. Ok? It helped to discuss. doncram (talk) 04:59, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
- Hey, notice your edit adding pic to finish out the entire Hanover Square list. Nice job! doncram (talk) 23:19, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
NRHP featured properties
WikiProject National Register of Historic Places Award | ||
Given in appreciation for your catching up on all the NRHP featured properties, and other good stuff that you've done! Thanks! doncram (talk) 04:31, 16 May 2009 (UTC) |
NRHP progress
Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/ProgressNRHPlistsByState looks good. Sure, take out Boston, it doesn't make sense to keep it in, if tallying by the number of counties (I think it is in all in one county, Suffolk, which also has non-Boston elements).
So far, it is a bit hard to see where work needs to be done, as you have to scroll through a lot already done and compare numbers to see if there is a difference. I couldn't detect any difference, visually, at all, but i knew to look for Arkansas then i see that. That could be addressed by using another column to report a difference. Maybe use abbreviations so columns narrow, to fit in another column like that? So, the tracking will be by number of counties covered vs. to be covered?
I guess i actually thought you'd do a tally for just the states and territories needing work, which would be those in the bottom section at List of RHPs that just have estimates, not final tallies. But i like seeing what we have done, too, interesting to see how many counties. And, we could want to cover other matters going back to all states, say for revising how top stuff is handled, or checking whether all sublists are have been tagged with the wikiproject banner, etc.
The Other section needs to be broken out to cover Guam vs. various other places needing work (see the broken out elements within List of RHPs.
Another way to do it, or perhaps a complementary thing, would be to splice together the tally-by-county tables for the unfinished states. But, hmm, that would just duplicate them where they currently are, causing more work. Your tracking should be more summary. So, i like what you have, but with narrow columns. Also the formatting with that dotted green line always was odd, it stems from an example i copied from long ago when tables seemed very new, but odd is okay by me.
Note, also there is Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/ProgressOnRHPsByState which has, at bottom, some old tallies of how many articles in the wikiproject there were. One thing to do this month would be to get a good new total of articles covered overall (and perhaps in each state, but i don't think that's feasible). What is current total tally? Then we'll get a bot run this month, and/or tag a log more using AWB or otherwise, and increase the count by a lot. I'd like to have it recorded and then see progress. doncram (talk) 04:50, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
- I'm all done, have to go now anyhow. Go ahead with anything more (or do AR or MO stuff). I asked Ebyabe at his Talk page to take a look at it, too. Thanks!
doncram (talk) 00:33, 31 May 2009 (UTC)- You don't need to split the town name pipelinks, just the NRHPs themselves, within the old lists. We know without looking that the town names all pipelink to Town, Arkansas.
doncram (talk) 02:56, 1 June 2009 (UTC)- np. certainly dont need to go back.
doncram (talk) 03:14, 1 June 2009 (UTC)- Hey can u table [1]? It's short but there's stuff there u might like to describe. :) doncram (talk) 05:06, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yup. Should be able to do it tonight. Thanks. :) Lvklock (talk) 12:14, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- Hope u dont mind, i said at User talk:Ebyabe that he or nyttend should go ahead and poach in on AR and MO, before or after IN, if they like. They're cranking along, which is great. I could easily spend weeks on finishing up the NRHP dabs needing cleanup, so i am appreciative. And then we could go on to other stuff, like using AWB to add NRHP banners etc. Would you be willing to get set up to run AWB, or have u already? You have to put in a request at wp:AWB, and u have to be able to run MSIE. Will look at S-O or whatever u just mentioned, now. doncram (talk) 00:05, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
- I went ahead and added tallies for a bunch of completed AR and MO counties to the state-wide tables. Another useful thing to do would be to add in tables for rest of MO counties, when u get a chance (with ";old list to be cross-checked" notes following each one, usually). regards, doncram (talk) 14:45, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
- Hope u dont mind, i said at User talk:Ebyabe that he or nyttend should go ahead and poach in on AR and MO, before or after IN, if they like. They're cranking along, which is great. I could easily spend weeks on finishing up the NRHP dabs needing cleanup, so i am appreciative. And then we could go on to other stuff, like using AWB to add NRHP banners etc. Would you be willing to get set up to run AWB, or have u already? You have to put in a request at wp:AWB, and u have to be able to run MSIE. Will look at S-O or whatever u just mentioned, now. doncram (talk) 00:05, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yup. Should be able to do it tonight. Thanks. :) Lvklock (talk) 12:14, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- Hey can u table [1]? It's short but there's stuff there u might like to describe. :) doncram (talk) 05:06, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- np. certainly dont need to go back.
- You don't need to split the town name pipelinks, just the NRHPs themselves, within the old lists. We know without looking that the town names all pipelink to Town, Arkansas.
(unindent) FYI, a redirect from "Town, AR" to "Town, Arkansas" will probably get questioned and/or deleted, if the Town, Arkansas article does not exist. Perhaps u meant to create a Bussey, Arkansas article after this edit. No big deal, either the town article will get created or the redir will get deleted by someone. --doncram
- Yes, if the town Town, Arkansas article does exist, then fixing redirects from Town, AR to it is good. But, if Town, Arkansas does not exist, a redir from Town, AR to that name is invalid. So, if u don't want to start the Town, Arkansas article, you can only change the Town, AR links to being links to Town, Arkansas, instead. I just think it's wrong to leave redlinks to Town, AR in the NRHP list-article, as that calls for people to create something there, the wrong place for any article. This is not really an NRHP problem, but i don't like to have those invalid red-links sitting there. Back with some pics to upload. doncram (talk) 20:36, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, AR seems huge. It is the last one of the top 10 largest states. And I think it also involves more work because of practice by local/state staff to accept common names for places that then require disambiguation when viewed at national/world level, while some other states (like South Dakota perhaps) use more specific names of places. Same historically for town names and county names, often common to other states' towns and counties. This is taking forever.
- P.S. Boundary increase items noted should be addressed by creating article and capturing increase info (location original and increase, both dates) into article and into list-article both, or at least i have been doing that stuff, others might not be. I'm not sure if u noticed i was doing that for Dortch one in Lonoke just now, already, but i wouldn't have deleted the boundary increase mention in old list until that was done. doncram (talk) 03:48, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- Hi, yes i think there is a bit which you could finish up in the P-Prairie section, i think i finished dabbing there though. I am also going to stop in Pulaski now so you could edit there if u like. May keep at some other dab pages needed, or may be done for now. doncram (talk) 23:18, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
NRHP listings in Syracuse peer review
I have contributed my thoughts (generally, a good job). I should add that I actually like that you got some pictures of buildings in snow ... this is the snowiest city in the lower 48 we're talking about, after all.
Would you like to return the favor and be the first human to peer review Central Troy Historic District? Daniel Case (talk) 14:15, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your comments! I must modestly decline your accolades for most of the pictures ... Wadester16 went and improved on my original photos. I'm sorry about that whitespace ... I've noticed the same issue too when viewing that page with IE. I honestly don't know how to fix it.
Making the maps really isn't hard. I screen-cap the appropriate section from Open Street Map, then put the overlays in in Photoshop and save it as a PNG.
I also have some suggestions for one of your Syracuse articles: Hall of Languages, Syracuse University, a building I have very fond memories of since it (at least then; I think it still does) housed the English department (as well as religion, philosophy and (I think) political science) and I spent a lot of time in its classrooms and offices. You definitely want to get a picture of its interior, since it was completely gutted in the early '80s and rebuilt. It now has a very contemporary interior with a sort of slanted atrium that goes up two or three stories from the front ... you'd see it almost immediately upon entry. This would have happened after it was listed, so you'll need some other source.
Also, I don't know if the nomination said this or not, but I'm not entirely sure it's the earliest SU building (it certainly is the oldest extant one). I always thought it was slightly predated by Winchell Hall, a small brick building across the street that was demolished in the early 1980s to make way for the Schine Student Center. Or maybe I'm just remembering that Winchell was the university's first chancellor. Whatever.
Funny yet unecyclopedic story about "HL" as it's referred to on-campus: One group I was part of was responsible for organzing homecoming every year, and among those responsibilities was organizing the homecoming king and queen contest. That includes developing the questions you ask the candidates. We decided one year to include an offbeat one: If you could be any building on campus, which one would you be? (yes, it got some laughs). Almost every respondent said that they'd be the Hall of Languages.
Perhaps I should look up the nom and expand the article for you. It would be a labor of love, and it wouldn't take a lot of time since it's an early '70s app and likely to be short. Daniel Case (talk) 14:29, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Central Troy pics IE issue
re this: I tried the same thing myself a while ago. Seems to be nothing we can do about this. Daniel Case (talk) 03:37, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
WHS etc.
Please note Talk:List of World Heritage Sites in Europe#Jerusalem and previous discussion section. I feel bad mentioning something in a sandbox; it would be good to put at least one of the WHS lists into mainspace. Thanks also for pointing out wording issues in my last post at wt:plagiarism. You can read the sentence with "not" in it in at least two ways, one not meant, other as meant. I may revise my wording if i post there again, but i think the point i am making is clear. Thanks! doncram (talk) 00:12, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
afd of interest
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/County Route 236 (Onondaga County, New York). Maybe you could comment that u were just about to add pics, or add them? doncram (talk)
- closed as keep, due to no consensus. doncram (talk) 05:20, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
MO
To find "Hi-Pointe-De Mun Historic District", probably just search in Who Has on less, say just "Pointe" or "Pointe-". Probably there are double-hyphens, since u didn't find it. Yep, it is "Hi-Pointe--De Mun Historic District", one double-hyphenated. doncram (talk) 05:20, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Also, maybe we should just list the boundary increase ones and address later. Or plan to get a search on them somehow, later. What do u think? doncram (talk) 05:20, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yikes, Jackson County, MO, is a big list! Will continue to reply at my Talk re: specific questions, later, can't do more now. doncram (talk) 01:13, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- MO looks done then? Go ahead and add statewide tally to MO page and to List of RHPs country-wide, before someone else comes in to do it! :) doncram (talk) 01:26, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks! about delaware and so on, yes, i'll get to those dabs. Cheers, doncram (talk) 03:33, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Try searching on "Anderson\'s" or "Anderson\'s Mill" doncram (talk) 05:45, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks! about delaware and so on, yes, i'll get to those dabs. Cheers, doncram (talk) 03:33, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- MO looks done then? Go ahead and add statewide tally to MO page and to List of RHPs country-wide, before someone else comes in to do it! :) doncram (talk) 01:26, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Lyric Theater was done fine; i thot to check Lyric Theatre and merge the two. The Theatre one was all screwed up, it helped to merge in the proper material u put into the Theater one. Thanks. doncram (talk) 05:56, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Marion ones
I don't know what to do right now, posted more at Talk:List of RHPs in Marion just now. doncram (talk) 01:44, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
NC tableizing
Hi Lvklock ... thanks for asking about the NC NRHP tables. I have been ever-so-slowly working my way through the counties. I've slowed to snail's pace lately because my work schedule has encroached significantly on the time I spend out here. But I'm finally beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel and hope to have at least a little more time for tableizing here. That said, I've been working through the NC counties in reverse order of the number of listings. The county counts in the table on the main NC page are based on a spreadsheet I have with NC listings which I think is comprehensive and up-to-the-minute. After I create a separate article for Robeson County, my plan was to leave the tables for the remaining counties on the main NC page (like what I did with Virginia). If that results in an overly large article, I was planning to split out more counties in reverse order of the number of listings. If this seems like a reasonable plan to you, perhaps we can work in opposite directions with respect to the number of listings and meet somewhere in the middle. One of us could start with the counties with the fewest listings and work up and the other could start with the counties with the most listings and work down. But I'm happy to share the work in some other way if you prefer. Let me know what you think. --sanfranman59 (talk) 02:45, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry about an ec. You go ahead, please, i was doing just a couple, was already gone, going back to something else. doncram (talk) 20:02, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks, need to go do other stuff. About taking time, what i meant is it takes me time to recall and heck old discussions and contributions of various people, to establish which multiple states they did major table-izing in. Hmm, need to check the DC history and probably add the DC, NC guy. Probably should browse in each of the state list articles history and add notes in the supporting page, about who were major table-izers for each. I did browse the original table design discussion pretty thoroughly already, have yet to give out a couple related stars. But, i need to go now. Thanks again, it was great fun working on this with you! doncram (talk) 18:36, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks!
The NRHP Table-izer Barnstar | ||
I award you this Barnstar for your contributions in table-izing multiple states' NRHP list-tables. As one editor put it, just before midnight U.S. Eastern time on July 4, Hey, between us we got it all done. Hooray!!
In fact we met multiple goals in table-izing list-articles covering all 83,973 NRHPs nation-wide during February 2008 to July 4, 2009. |
Bethel Historic District (Bethel, Missouri)
Hi, Lvklock. While added state-specific HD categories to HD articles, I ran across Bethel Historic District (Bethel, Missouri) and am proposing a merger into Bethel, Missouri.
It's past my bedtime, so I won't attempt any profound comments right now, but I wanted to give you a heads-up, as article creator. --Orlady (talk) 05:16, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
- I removed the merge tags after seeing your improvements. --Orlady (talk) 17:56, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
What happens when neither of us can change the others mind? (response to your comment on my talk page)
I've pretty much given up on trying to reach consensus on the page-move issues (there are at least two parties who keep moving pages), but I continue to focus on trying to improve/maintain the quality of whichever articles currently exist. My main concern is the quality and quantity of information. --Orlady (talk) 17:56, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
- Interesting observation about the Hazard family of Rhode Island and Syracuse. Another little-known but ubiquitous family that I've tripped across is Meigs. I've had some interesting times trying to sort out Meigses -- I've discovered errors (and made a few errors of my own) in sorting out the different people of similar names. As near as I can tell, all of the people on the disambiguation page Meigs are members of the same family, and all of the non-person topics on that page are named for members of that family. --Orlady (talk) 02:41, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
HDs nationwide
What do you think of filing a bot request to help with Category:Historic districts in the United States? I'm thinking of asking for a bot to add the category itself to all articles with "hd" or "nhld" in the "type" line of the infobox, as long as those articles weren't already in a state-level category. Once this was complete, we'd be able to remove the category from the table without running the risk of missing any, and an edit to add the state-level category to each site could easily include removing the national category. It should be easy: far easier than trying to keep track of which states or letters had been sorted into state-level categories. Nyttend (talk) 19:03, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
- I've filed the request, taking care to specify that we don't need to have the nationwide category added to any articles already in a subcategory of the nationwide category. Thanks for your opinion! Nyttend (talk) 02:49, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Merced Theatre
Hello! Your submission of Merced Theatre at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Taiwantaffy (talk) 08:09, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Merced Theatre
King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 08:14, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Fiddler's Reach Fog Signal
Drafted at User:Doncram/Sandbox9. Requested pics. doncram (talk) 18:28, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Lake Linden Historic District
I started the Lake Linden Historic District article on 12 Aug, unaware that User:Andrew Jameson had taken pics and uploaded them on 10 Aug. Perhaps could do a DYK quickly right away before new article DYK clock runs out? Or assist on a 5X expansion later. See User talk:Andrew Jameson. doncram (talk) 18:36, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
- He took the pics on 10 Aug, uploaded them 15 Aug. Feel free to add to the article, or to improve the DYK nom, at Template talk:Did you know#Lake Linden Historic District. doncram (talk) 01:52, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
- Nice. Much better than I was coming up with, article wise. The hook is about what I was thinking. Lvklock (talk) 02:25, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for help with the hook. Your version is too long tho, at about 235 chars (i think 200 cutoff is pretty strict). I added an another, shorter alternative. See if u can improve, pls. Tx, doncram (talk) 06:17, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
- my count was like 194, without wikimarkup and without spaces, I thought. I'll look. Lvklock (talk) 09:25, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
- Yep, i count 195 without spaces, 231 with spaces, for "that the Lake Linden Historic District is built largely of brick because after a devastating fire in 1887, insurance companies with heavy losses threatened to pull out of the area unless the village was made more resistant to fire?" But, spaces count. doncram (talk) 15:22, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
- Hmmph. I thought spaces didn't count, but I guess I it was that they DO count towards the 1500. Guess I can't have it both ways. :( Lvklock (talk) 16:11, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
- Tweaked urs to add two wikilinks. "Rebuilt" is a good word, in my book. Tx! doncram (talk) 15:56, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
- On the front page right now. Perhaps people will click on it out of idle curiousity of where Lake Linden might be? But without pic, will probably get <2,000 hits, i expect. doncram (talk) 23:14, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
NY 57 photo request
Hey there. I noticed that you've taken a few pictures (excellent pics by the way) for several Syracuse-area state route articles. Could I ask you for a big favor? The article on New York State Route 57, a fairly significant route which began in Syracuse up until it ceased to exist in 1982, could use some pictures to accentuate the prose. Apparently there are reference markers on the portion of old NY 57 (current County Route 57) between Fulton and Phoenix (based on another wiki user's edit), and a picture of one of those in the style of File:NY 18 ref marker on Lake Rd.jpg or File:NY 253 ref marker.JPG would be great. Other pics, like one of the southern terminus of New York State Route 264 (which is at old NY 57) would be very useful as well. I'm not sure of where you are in relation to Syracuse, but if this request isn't too much of a burden I'd greatly appreciate it if you could help me, and by extension the article and Wikipedia, out. Thanks! – TMF 08:58, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
- OK, excellent. I was in the Syracuse area yesterday for opening day of the state fair and I took a few pictures of old NY 57, including some pictures of old reference markers along the way (check out Commons:Category:New York State Route 57). However, I wasn't thrilled with how any of the three pics came out. So, if you could take a picture of one, I'd appreciate it. It turns out that it's not necessary to go to Phoenix to find the markers; I saw some along old NY 57 as far south as southern Clay. There's a couple halfway decent ones right around the NY 31 / CR 57 intersection in Clay: one just north of the intersection on CR 57 northbound and one a bit farther north on CR 57 southbound (the pics I took that didn't come out too well are of the latter marker). Thanks in advance. – TMF 16:16, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, cool. =) I've never gone on opening day before so I really didn't know what to expect. My main concern was that it would be jam-packed, but it ended up not being much busier than it usually is a week later. All in all, I realized that opening day adds a bit of buzz, a bit of life to the fair that I had never experienced before in all the years that I went the following Thursday instead. – TMF 16:34, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
- Hey. Just wondering how the request is coming, since it's been a month since I originally posted. If you haven't had time to get around to it, that's fine; I just wanted to see if the request is still on your radar, so to speak. TIA. – TMF 10:43, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, cool. =) I've never gone on opening day before so I really didn't know what to expect. My main concern was that it would be jam-packed, but it ended up not being much busier than it usually is a week later. All in all, I realized that opening day adds a bit of buzz, a bit of life to the fair that I had never experienced before in all the years that I went the following Thursday instead. – TMF 16:34, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Hey again, just checking up on the request. At the same time, I have another one, this time for a current route in the Syracuse area that may or may not be closer to you than Phoenix. =) This one is New York State Route 598, located just northeast of downtown. What would really be a good pic is the intersection of NY 298 and NY 598, a picture of a "NY 930M" reference marker (the former designation of NY 598 between NY 298 and the Syracuse city line), if any still exist (they may have been all changed over to read "598"), or anything else you think will work well. I noticed you've been on break for a bit, so if you don't have time to get to this, that's fine. Thanks. – TMF 07:05, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, real life's been crazy lately, mainly in good ways, but keeping me away from Wikipedia. I hope to get back to it soon, though. Sorry for the delays. It should be no problem to get any of them. Lvklock (talk) 00:16, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
Sagamore Camp
I reverted part of your change to Sagamore Camp because it introduced an error in the footnotes. I'm not real clear on the nrhp infobox syntax that you were fixing, but you might want to have another look. Cheers! -- Mwanner | Talk 13:44, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads up. I fixed it. Lvklock (talk) 16:29, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
AWB
I think they mostly have "designated =", not "designated=" (you type in just the phrase you want to search on, without quote marks). You can check some manually, outside of AWB. And, you could just set the Skip settings to not skip any, but just to step through them all. And you yourself can choose manually to skip each one that you don't want to address. Hope this helps. doncram (talk) 23:44, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
Fiddler's Reach Fog Signal
About the Template talk:Did you know#Fiddler's Reach Fog Signal, i am not sure that one "winds" a counterweight-powered clock. The DYK hook involving a "counterweight mechanism that had to be wound by hand every four hours" (and the passage in the article) don't quite make sense to me. I think you're on track for a better DYK hook than my first one, though. Can use wikilinks counterweight and keeper in the hook and article, too, perhaps. doncram (talk) 15:14, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Historic Districts vs. locales
I've left a note at User talk:Orlady#Historic Districts vs. locales concerning the merger of historic districts and locales; your comments concerning Doncram's proposal are welcome. See also my talk page. Acroterion (talk) 21:20, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
WHS lists
Do u think the whole Eur list should be in one sortable table, or divided into smaller tables by country? I am not sure. Sep. lists would require duplicated rows for some sites spanning multiple countries. And if one table, what should be the initial presentation order? doncram (talk) 03:33, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
- I guess one table, with original UNESCO order (by country first), and drop the Region=EUR column, and I guess drop/do not include a pic column. Can illustrate by selected pics, like List of Chicago landmarks. Let individual country-specific lists include pics and more detail. That should keep size for Eur list manageable. Do u think keep Cultural vs. Natural vs. Mixed column, or not? I guess keep for now, could choose to drop later. Agree with your suggestions. doncram (talk) 04:38, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
- I inserted the 5 rows just now in case you wanted to renumber. Whenever. I am done there for now. doncram (talk) 01:28, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
- I'll do it this weekend. Too tired right now, I would mess it up. Lvklock (talk) 01:36, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Garst Farmstead HD
If you could help with Roswell and Elizabeth Garst Farmstead Historic District, I'd appreciate it very much. See also [[early nom for a September 23 DYK. doncram (talk) 09:15, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Fiddler's Reach Fog Signal
— Jake Wartenberg 17:14, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
archiving and talk page boxes
Hey, you commented at User talk:Doncram#talk page boxes that my Talk page was messed up, from MSIE browser view. Having narrowed the talk page box there, is it better now? I'll watch here.
Also, you need to archive some of your own Talk page here! It has 80 sections open, 3X as many as on mine... :) doncram (talk) 11:33, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
- Nope, it's still a big blank spot to the left og your to do list. And, I have no clue how to archive stuff. Lvklock (talk) 14:47, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
- oh well about MSIE. i set up an archive box here. you have to manually cut and paste what you are ready to remove from here to the new archive there. put {{archive}} at the top of the new archive. doncram (talk) 16:57, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks
I wouldn't have called that a rant; status quo ante might be the best and most sensible solution. I don't see the issue going anywhere productive until the appropriate sources are found; all other arguments seem to be exhausted for the time being. Acroterion (talk) 17:18, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Roswell and Elizabeth Garst Farmstead Historic District
WP:DYK 12:21, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
featured props
I fixed link for Clackamas County, Oregon one. Am suggesting it for a WikiProject Oregon collaboration of the week. doncram (talk) 01:00, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
The Auto-categorizing Robot
Back in July, I asked your opinion about filing a request for a bot to add HD categories to HD articles so that we could remove Category:Historic districts in the United States from {{Infobox nrhp}}. See Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/The Auto-categorizing Robot: a bot has now been written and approved to carry out this task. It will add a state-level category to any article with {{Infobox nrhp}} that is tagged with "hd" or "nhld", unless (1) the names of multiple states appear, in which case it will add Category:Historic districts in the United States [so we can sort it manually later], or (2) there's already an HD category on the article. Nyttend (talk) 14:55, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
User:Lvklock/NHL's visited and User:Lvklock/NRHPs visited
You need to update the latter page; if I thought both were exactly accurate, I'd think that you'd visited some NHLs in Ohio but no NRHPs in Ohio :-) Nyttend (talk) 03:43, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- Yes pls update! Also, i am done with any mps file checking for now. You could do IA after first 12 that i did, say, otherwise coord with nyttend. Thanks! doncram (talk) 16:09, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- I'm done; there are only 116 remaining, being all of Mississippi, Montana, and North Carolina. I thought that Kentucky was also remaining, but then I realised that I'd gotten them last night. Nyttend (talk) 16:24, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks both of you for pitching in! Could we note, in a small-size footnote-type reference at bottom of the list-article, who did which "checking" so that enterprising others could seek out the appropriate one of us who might be able to help with a specific doc? For that, and towards verifying we backed up all, is the following a correct summary (pls update)?
- I'm done; there are only 116 remaining, being all of Mississippi, Montana, and North Carolina. I thought that Kentucky was also remaining, but then I realised that I'd gotten them last night. Nyttend (talk) 16:24, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- nyttend did all of KY, MO, OH, SC, TN (and IA, IL, NJ, PA and others?) doncram (talk) 19:12, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- lvklock did all of FL, IA 13-55, ME, MI, MN, MS, MT, NC
- doncram did all others and has some duplications (which means AK, AL, AR, AZ, CA, CO, CT, DC, DE, IA 1-12, NH, NM, NV, NY, PR, RI, SD, UT, VA, VI, VT, WA, WI, WV, WY (and duplicated SC and did selected ones from all states) (and others?)
- So far undone - NONE
- I'll get to NC before the day is over. I updated above to show the ones I did, including IA 13-55, while doncram did IA 1-12, correct? Lvklock (talk) 19:19, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- I actually can't remember what all I did: to speed up the process, I saved each document as [NRIS document number].pdf. Therefore, I saved the form for Ohio's "Black History TR" as "64000610.pdf". I'm in process of checking the names and renaming the files to reflect the MPS name. I think that I did everything that Doncram says that I did (including Iowa 13-55), plus Oregon and Oklahoma at least. The most significant thing that I know solidly is that I downloaded 508 different nomination forms; I'll get back to you when I finish renaming them. Nyttend (talk) 00:50, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
- NP. I finished NC, so I think they're all done. Lvklock (talk) 00:54, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
- I think I've done OR, HI, ND, SD, NE, KS, OK, IA, IL, IN, MO, SC, TN, KY, OH, PA, NJ, and NH. Nyttend (talk) 02:48, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
- Great! Thanks again, both of you! There's only a chance that that this will have been urgently necessary, but it is probably good to have these ourselves, anyhow, as the source site can go down anytime, and I do think it would be reasonable for them to remove at least some.
- BTW, it went faster for me only late in this process when i realized i could do the downloading by first clearing "My Mozilla cache" where firefox saves downloads, then click on all for a state (slowly, not having more than 6 in process at a time, or the download requests get lost), then copy-paste over to a new directory for that state. And then compare counts to make sure I had the right number of them. While yesterday i went really slowly, opening each file and renaming them (which is nice for having them be more useful later of course).
- I think we got them all then, glad to see certain states in Nyttend's list. Some duplication is good, too. We have some overlaps because Nyttend and I apparently both did HI, SD, SC, and I have assorted ones from all states as i took any ones with various keywords in the list-stated titles. Thanks! doncram (talk) 03:29, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
- I think I've done OR, HI, ND, SD, NE, KS, OK, IA, IL, IN, MO, SC, TN, KY, OH, PA, NJ, and NH. Nyttend (talk) 02:48, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
- NP. I finished NC, so I think they're all done. Lvklock (talk) 00:54, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
- I actually can't remember what all I did: to speed up the process, I saved each document as [NRIS document number].pdf. Therefore, I saved the form for Ohio's "Black History TR" as "64000610.pdf". I'm in process of checking the names and renaming the files to reflect the MPS name. I think that I did everything that Doncram says that I did (including Iowa 13-55), plus Oregon and Oklahoma at least. The most significant thing that I know solidly is that I downloaded 508 different nomination forms; I'll get back to you when I finish renaming them. Nyttend (talk) 00:50, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
- I'll get to NC before the day is over. I updated above to show the ones I did, including IA 13-55, while doncram did IA 1-12, correct? Lvklock (talk) 19:19, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
NRHP
Feel free to report me to WP:AN/I or wherever since I'm apparently screwing up and saying the wrong thing at WT:NRHP. Apparently, I'm one of the people responsible for screwing up the entire project, since I can't defend anything from Polaron.
Oh, and it must have been a complete waste of time for me to climb down a road embankment a few days ago to take a crappy picture of an old bridge near Stillwater, and then to write a crappy article about it. The article doesn't support anything, so I should have skipped it. --Elkman (Elkspeak) 20:20, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Casa Paoli
User talk:Mercy11#Casa Paoli. Can you possibly help too? doncram (talk) 17:33, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
New Syracuse NRHP listing today
Louis Will House, 714 N. McBride St.. I already put it in the list ... you should probably be able to shoot it. Daniel Case (talk) 05:26, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Two more Syracuse listings to be under consideration
At its next meeting in a couple of weeks, SHPO will be considering state designations (and NRHP applications for St. Paul's Armenian Apostolic Church at 310 North Geddes Street (corner of Park Avenue; it used to be the Park Avenue Methodist Church) and The Barnes-Hiscock House (930 James Street). Just letting you know so you can get out and take pictures now instead of later. Daniel Case (talk) 18:26, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
- Got pics. How do you know these things ahead of time? Lvklock (talk) 03:25, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
- Barnes-Hiscock is now in the club. Daniel Case (talk) 22:47, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
I put in another new one today. Looks like they're starting a new MPS: "Industrial Resources in the City of Syracuse, Onondaga County, NY", so they're'll be more. Daniel Case (talk) 20:11, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
- St. Paul's was just listed today, along with another house on Academy Green. I added them to the list; I think this weekend will have good weather. Daniel Case (talk) 04:54, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
In Skaneateles
Here (and here). If you can get out there, it will probably be a good weekend for photos. Daniel Case (talk) 15:23, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Another one in Syracuse
The John G. Ayling House at 223 DeWitt Street is being considered at the next SHPO meeting. Daniel Case (talk) 04:47, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Now it's official. Daniel Case (talk) 01:46, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
One today out in the country
Don't know quite where this one is (source is here). A cemetery in three feet of lake-effect snow? You might not even be able to see it. Daniel Case (talk) 04:34, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
Under consideration by SHPO for June
This quarter's list just out. In Syracuse is Leavenworth Apartments, 615 James St., New Kasson Apartments, 622 James St. (i.e., just across the street) and People's African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church, 711 East Fayette St. Daniel Case (talk) 04:06, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks! Now all I need is time to actually take a lunch break, or get out of work early enough for the light to still be good enough to take some pictures...........Lvklock (talk) 03:16, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
Huntley Apartments, at 407-409 Stolp Ave., was announced as listed today, and I have added it to the list already. I think OPRHP had discussed it some time ago? But I don't see it up here. Daniel Case (talk) 21:38, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
DYK for Manlius Village Historic District
Materialscientist (talk) 00:01, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Service awards proposal
I renamed the New Century Club to New Century Club (Utica, New York) because I'm writing articles on two other Century Clubs. While I was updating all the links to the old name, I noticed it on your list of visited NRHP sites but didn't want to overstep and edit your User page.RevelationDirect (talk) 03:30, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks! Lvklock (talk) 14:42, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Downtown Torrington Historic District
Hi, do you want to create a sandbox in your userspace to develop Downtown Torrington Historic District further, accomplishing a 5X increase for DYK? Please just proceed and let me know. I'll watch here so will see if you reply. I wonder if mentioning the 7 moderne buildings in the district, or some other factoid, would work well in DYK, as perhaps: "Did you know that...seven moderne buildings are preserved in Downtown Torrington Historic District in Torrington, Connecticut?" --doncram (talk) 06:15, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
- Sure, I'll do it after work today. Lvklock (talk) 07:41, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
- At User:Lvklock/Downtown Torrington Historic District. 699 characters in mainspace, needs 3000 char for 5X DYK expansion. --doncram (talk) 15:41, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
- I just ran across User:Lvklock/Downtown Torrington Historic District in Category:Historic districts in Connecticut. It's much more attractive than anything in my user space, but being attractive doesn't qualify it for a cross-namespace categorization. ;-) I hope you can fix this. (Note: Downtown Torrington Historic District also exists.) --Orlady (talk) 13:26, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
- At User:Lvklock/Downtown Torrington Historic District. 699 characters in mainspace, needs 3000 char for 5X DYK expansion. --doncram (talk) 15:41, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
Old Main Street Historic District
Hello. I noticed your comment that you favor adding Old Main Street HD to the Main Street HD dab page, and am curious as to why, especially since none of the other variations - North, South, East, West, Cadiz, etc. - are included. Station1 (talk) 22:34, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
- I commented about this at Talk:Main Street Historic District. --doncram (talk) 23:40, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
- I answered there as well, in the interests of keeping the conversation together. Lvklock (talk) 18:52, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- Actually I was trying to avoid that, but thanks for your reply. Station1 (talk) 06:27, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry 'bout that. You're welcome. Lvklock (talk) 00:46, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
- Actually I was trying to avoid that, but thanks for your reply. Station1 (talk) 06:27, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
- I answered there as well, in the interests of keeping the conversation together. Lvklock (talk) 18:52, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Just saying thanks
I just wanted to say thanks for the support on the whole El Paso discussion. If you haven't noticed Sarek chose to close the discussion and give Polaron what he wanted. I have put in a request to have this undone but I don't expect it to go far. Not sure what to make of all that ...
--Mcorazao (talk) 22:44, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- I'd like to add thanks for the excellent new pics of three sites in Schoharie County. Just yesterday, I visited a bunch of sites in eastern Cattaraugus County and will be adding them soon. cheers--Pubdog (talk) 13:46, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for noticing! Trying to make some small progress with my backlog. See also Pompey Centre District No. 10 Schoolhouse in Onondaga County, U.S. Post Office (Richfield Springs, New York) in Otsego County, Chenango Canal Summit Level infobox picture and Old Madison County Courthousein Madison County. Lvklock (talk) 02:14, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
BLPs
Thanks for AWBing many IMDB-related ones.
Here, at Wikipedia:WikiProject New York/Unreferenced BLPs, the bot finally came thru and is showing some New York ones. --doncram (talk) 12:36, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
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Passing through
On Friday, my son and I will probably be driving through Central New York and Syracuse on our way to an anniversary party in Buffalo. I'll be taking NRHP pics where I can just off the freeways, but not in CNY since you've already done so (although it looks like the Jamesville listings would be within reach of a short detour from I-81, if that's something you don't think you'll be able to get to. And Elbridge, too).
I will be trying to take some roadscape photos, if the weather makes it glorious enough and we have made good time — I-81 along the moraines, that view of Cortland from I-81 as you approach (the article needs that!) the Thruway through the Montezuma National Wildlife Refuge (you know, the long straight section where you can see two miles ahead), and perhaps US 20 at Big Bend, just off the interstate ... I think I recall that being pretty scenic.
If you have any suggestions that I could accomodate, let me know. Daniel Case (talk) 18:29, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Blocks and bans
This is in response to your comment on the 3RR noticeboard (which doesn't need any more clutter, IMO).
You may find Wikipedia:Blocking policy interesting reading. Blocks and bans at Wikipedia are not supposed to be forms of punishment so much as they are supposed to protect Wikipedia and the user community from disruptive behavior. (I'm not quoting the page here -- those are my words, and the page may say things a little bit differently.) I realize that it's hard for all of us not to think of them as punishments. However, if you think of them as preventive actions it's much easier to accept the seeming inconsistencies in their application. If the general idea is to cause disruptive behavior to cease -- and hopefully not happen again, it makes sense that different cases would be handled differently, and that evidence of new disruptive activity does not necessarily lead to extending the duration of an ongoing user block.
As for whether or not Polaron was socking, the evidence is all at the WP:SPI case and it seems pretty clear. It's not for me to second-guess the decision of the administrator who handled that case and determined the durations of the blocks, and I don't think it's beneficial for the community to continue discussing a closed SPI case on the 3RR noticeboard. (Similarly, it's not for me to second-guess the decisions of the administrator who handled the 3RR case.) YMMV. --Orlady (talk) 18:20, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Good to run into you!
I've got a couple or three AC pictures left, but I think all of them are empty lots! :{
The only real site I think I have left is the Stafford Historic district in Ventor, and even that was from me hurrying before dark, hunger, etc. 4 pix there and I think I got one that could go up. In short, I'd love to see yours.
In particular, I may have Barclay Court, Holmhurst Hotel, Morton Hotel ?, Santa Rita Apartments, and the Segal Building, but I have to sort them out, and they are all empty lots or parking lots, if I remember correctly.
i.e. I'm really looking forward to seeing what you have.
BTW, I have a strict policy that I will never get upset if somebody replaces one of my photos - I'm a strict amateur at this and everybody can get better pix than me! Smallbones (talk) 04:38, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
- I put up the Stafford HD. I think I was going to get Segal on the way back but forgot. Is it this one at Google Street View?
- The more interesting question is a nice building at 15 S. Pennsylvania, with Barclay Court apparently the parking lot at 9-11 S. Pennsylvania. Other than that 2 pix of Trumps parking lot and I couldn't really decide which side of the street the parking lot that used to be Santa Rita Apartments was on Smallbones (talk) 04:53, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
Not to be totally negative, I drove thru Gloucester County on the way to AC and got this. Smallbones (talk) 05:17, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
Invitation to join WikiProject United States
--Kumioko (talk) 03:25, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
re the AN discussion relating to doncram and a proposed ban on the creation of alleged low quality stubs
You have in your contributions to the above discussion alleged various violations, by un-named parties in most part, of Wikipedia:No personal attacks. I have asked, on that page, for you to supply some examples, by way of diffs, of such personal attacks so I may review them and take such action as I deem necessary. I am asking because my reason for moving my "comment" to "support" was in light of doncram's responses to what appeared reasonable points made by some editors immediately before the AN discussion was opened. If these comments, although still inappropriate in some cases, were made following bad faith comments by those other parties then I shall have to reconsider my opinion. I look forward to your response. LessHeard vanU (talk) 20:28, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
New Stanley Theater pic
Hi ... thought I'd let you know I added a new Stanley Theater pic to National Register of Historic Places listings in Oneida County, New York. It is File:Stanley Theater Utica NY Jun 07.jpg. Don't know whether you want to change out the one you took in Stanley Theater (Utica, New York), since the one I uploaded includes the marquee.--Pubdog (talk) 20:58, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
- Gosh, yes. Please feel free to go ahead and change out pics if you think yours are better. Especially in hugely obvious cases like this one, where when I took the picture it was in the midst of rehab that's clearly been finished now. There's a pic I took 3 or 4 years ago in Daytona Beach of an NHL with scaffolding all around it that no one's ever changed out. I hope it's just because it's off the beaten track, and not because someone thinks I might take offense. ;) Lvklock (talk) 01:26, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
- I rearranged the photos for that Daytona one. I just forgot to add new ones I took. And yes, they finally finished the renovations, after like 3 years. :) --Ebyabe (talk) 14:33, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Straw stuff
Hey. I think your comments shouldn't have been reverted over at WP:NRHP. I mentioned that there, but I think it was lost in the doncram-iness of it all. Sadly, I don't believe things will change anytime soon. I'll just keep taking pictures of sites, 'cause that's, you know, fun. Later. --Ebyabe (talk) 14:37, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
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