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Therefore, I propose that
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"Writing developed independently and at different times in five areas of the world:[39] Egypt (c. 3200 BCE),[39] India (c. 3200 BCE),[40] Mesopotamia (c. 3000 BCE),[41] China (c. 1600 BCE),[42] and Mesoamerica (c. 600 BCE).[39]"
"Writing developed independently and at different times in five areas of the world:[39] Egypt (c. 3200 BCE),[39] India (c. 3200 BCE),[40] Mesopotamia (c. 3000 BCE),[41] China (c. 1600 BCE),[42] and Mesoamerica (c. 600 BCE).[39]


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"Writing most likely developed independently and at different times in four areas of the world: Mesopotamia (c. 3300-3200 BCE), Egypt (c. 3200 BCE), China (c. 1600 BCE), and Mesoamerica (c. 600 BCE).<ref name="Woods 2010">{{citation |last1=Woods |first1=Christopher |editor1-first=Christopher |editor1-last=Woods |title=Visible language. Inventions of writing in the ancient Middle East and beyond |url=http://oi.uchicago.edu/pdf/oimp32.pdf |series=Oriental Institute Museum Publications |volume=32 |year=2010 |publisher=University of Chicago |location=Chicago |isbn=978-1-885923-76-9 |chapter=The earliest Mesopotamian writing |pages=11–50 }}</ref>"
"Writing most likely developed independently and at different times in four areas of the world: Mesopotamia (c. 3300-3200 BCE), Egypt (c. 3200 BCE), China (c. 1600 BCE), and Mesoamerica (c. 600 BCE).<ref name="Woods 2010">{{citation |last1=Woods |first1=Christopher |editor1-first=Christopher |editor1-last=Woods |title=Visible language. Inventions of writing in the ancient Middle East and beyond |url=http://oi.uchicago.edu/pdf/oimp32.pdf |series=Oriental Institute Museum Publications |volume=32 |year=2010 |publisher=University of Chicago |location=Chicago |isbn=978-1-885923-76-9 |chapter=The earliest Mesopotamian writing |pages=11–50 }}</ref><ref>Geoffrey Sampson (1 January 1990). Writing Systems: A Linguistic Introduction. Stanford University Press. pp. 78–. ISBN 978-0-8047-1756-4. Retrieved 31 October 2011.</ref>"




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Semi-protected edit request on 2 October 2018

"Anatomically modern humans arose in Africa about 200,000 years ago,[20] and reached behavioural modernity about 50,000 years ago.[21]"

200,000 should be 300,000 according to source 20. Balticshuffle (talk) 07:29, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

 Done I have accepted your request because as per the source its 300,000 year ago. Joshq.JQ 14:22, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 5 October 2018

204.29.115.222 (talk) 14:30, 5 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Adam needs to be in here

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. —KuyaBriBriTalk 16:41, 5 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Lack of mention of Great Famine

I noticed that this article lacked any mention of the Great Chinese Famine, arguably the largest mass-death event in world history. I added a brief mention, but there may be other similar topics of significant importance missing. The structure of the article (presenting early history by geographic region, and then merging into a single narrative for more modern history) presents a risk that non-western more modern history may be being minimized or ignored. - Sdkb (talk) 01:58, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Central-Eastern Europe

This page, like some US textbooks, ignores areas between Russia and Germany. The Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth deserves to be mentioned. Xx236 (talk) 11:45, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely. From the 15th century, the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth was the largest polity in Europe, the most welcoming to diverse ethnicities and religions, and made substantial contributions to world science and culture. The Commonwealth's history has tended to get short shrift in many general histories. Nihil novi (talk) 22:45, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I've introduced a brief paragraph which suggests something of what was missing in that gap "between Russia and Germany."
Thanks.
Nihil novi (talk) 07:30, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Dates and locations for the invention of writing

This section is not ideal. There seems to be slippage between the concept of proto-writing and true literacy. The Indus script, here dated to 3200 BCE, is yet to be deciphered. It is unclear at what point it became a writing system, instead of a pictorial system. Its inclusion is problematic, as other undeciphered proto-systems are not included. Likewise, Egyptian and Sumerian both transferred from pictorial to more abstract around 3200. Although nearly simultaneous to the development of Egyptian Hieroglyphics, Sumerian Cuneiform is generally considered to be the first writing system. However, there is no definitive transition line. I would strongly advise referencing Visible Language: Inventions of Writing in the Ancient Middle East and Beyond in this section. It is a compilation of articles on the origin of written language, last updated 2015.

Other scholars, such as the Assyriologist Irving Finkel, suggest that Egyptian Hieroglyphs are not an independent invention and that there are only two verifiable independent inventions of writing: Mesopotamia and Mesoamerica.

Therefore, I propose that

"Writing developed independently and at different times in five areas of the world:[39] Egypt (c. 3200 BCE),[39] India (c. 3200 BCE),[40] Mesopotamia (c. 3000 BCE),[41] China (c. 1600 BCE),[42] and Mesoamerica (c. 600 BCE).[39]

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"Writing most likely developed independently and at different times in four areas of the world: Mesopotamia (c. 3300-3200 BCE), Egypt (c. 3200 BCE), China (c. 1600 BCE), and Mesoamerica (c. 600 BCE).[1][2]" 


— Preceding unsigned comment added by Vasukhani (talk • contribs) 08:17, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done: please provide full citations to reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:57, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ Woods, Christopher (2010), "The earliest Mesopotamian writing", in Woods, Christopher (ed.), Visible language. Inventions of writing in the ancient Middle East and beyond (PDF), Oriental Institute Museum Publications, vol. 32, Chicago: University of Chicago, pp. 11–50, ISBN 978-1-885923-76-9
  2. ^ Geoffrey Sampson (1 January 1990). Writing Systems: A Linguistic Introduction. Stanford University Press. pp. 78–. ISBN 978-0-8047-1756-4. Retrieved 31 October 2011.
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