Talk:List of Heroes characters

Created

Since there weren't any objections and it was going to have to be done anyway at some point i went ahead and moved this off the main article. Alot of work still needs to be done to expand this article past the chart I would recommend merging the minor characters list into the article as a sub section and going from there. -- Argash  |  talk  |  contribs  11:12, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

On an added note I think here the table can retain the photos but I still think that the occupation and location columns should go and possibly the age column as well as even for this article that information is still a bit trivial and should probably be left to each characters individual page. Didn't want to do that right away though because that is debatable where as the page move pretty much needed to happen at some point. -- Argash  |  talk  |  contribs  11:19, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Merge Proposal

I've placed the merger templates on both pages and baring any objections will go ahead with it tonight or tomorrow -- Argash  |  talk  |  contribs  15:45, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Actually they are related as they both refer to characters that appear on Heroes. I would refer you to Characters of Lost. Since there has been disagreement though i will now hold off

• • Comment You ought to give at least a week for some serious discussion on the topic. --Pinkkeith 17:29, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
• Support --Kmsiever 15:58, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
• Disagree - the page of Major Characters and Minor Characters would become very long with them merged together. --Mjrmtg 17:07, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
• Disagree - The two are not related and per Mjrmtg the article will be long. If anything this should be merged back in with the main article. It is not small enough to have a seperate article. --Pinkkeith 17:29, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
• Disagree, why do we have this article anyway?--Ac1983fan^{(yell at me)} 17:47, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
• Disagree per Mjrmtg, and Pinkkeith. per Ac1983fan, i think the page is valuable and should remain up here.--Sdp4408 19:09, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
• Disagree We already have the Category:Heroes_Characters for this. 144.15.255.227 02:25, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
• Support To those proposing that this article will be too long, have you actually looked at the article? It's a table. There's nothing else. It's just one table. The article barely stretches more than a page. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 03:12, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
• Support May take a bit of moving around the content from the other article, but, honestly, we don't need the same information twice s.omewhere. Merge 'em... Plus, we know of at least one 'minor' character who has just been signed up to be a longer term, permanent character (Mr. Bennet). Instead of constantly editing both pages, until the series gets the first season or two down, who stays/goes is likely to be a bit fluid. Thus, one page that contains any character to repeat more than one episode, would help in the editing (not to mention, handling red herrings which are certain to appear). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Myrdinn (talk • contribs) .
• Support - While I dont agree with seperating the characters based on whether or not they have powers (since Mohinder deserves to be nearer to the top than most other non-powered characters), I think the two articles would fit nicely in together--Piemanmoo 08:22, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
• Support - No "powers" separation. I'd say make it one page, with the table on the top like it is now (linking to each character's page), and just put minor characters below, with a brief description for each. Essentially a straight cut and paste. One thing I would also support is if people wanted to pare down the minor characters page to be "recurring/significant minor characters" or something like that, since that list will get HUGE by the end of the season. Novastarj 19:24, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
• Support the idea of including the "main" and "minor" characters in a single article. However, I think we should get rid of the table and write up the main characters with a short paragraph, just like the minor characters. Primogen 23:35, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
• Support - the show certainly blurs the line between "major" and "minor" characters. Merge the articles and, as with any Wikipedia article, split if and when the article becomes excessively long. SkerHawx 20:22, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
• Support: This show seems to have a looser description of main and minor than most shows anyway, i would have put Mr Bennet in main myself. Also the formatting on Main is pretty good i wouldn't alter it.
• support -- cleaner this way, and who makes the distinction between major and minor characters? 08:59, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Addition to Claire's Powers

I added "Altered perception of pain" to Claire's powers. The source for this is an interview with two of the show's writers: http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=8817 (third question down). Unfortunately I am not very familiar with editing Wikipedia and cannot for the life of me figure out how to add a citation. I would appreciate it very much if someone would add that for me. Thank you. 71.193.152.63 05:07, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Ah. I was worried this was just speculation. This does help, though not in very clear way. I think it'd be better not to add overly long or confusing data to what's really supposed to be a simple summary. I'll make note at the Claire Bennet article. Thanks, and you're welcome. Check out [Wikipedia:citation]] and Wikipedia:citation templates for information about how to cite sources. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 06:22, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't wish to start an argument, as obviously you're much more familiar with Wikipedia's protocol than I am, but this does seem to be an important power of hers. It has been clearly portrayed onscreen, and is essential to making her primary power meaningful (i.e. it lends her a sort of invulnerability in that she truly need not fear harm). I certainly feel that it is much more a superpower than Niki's split personality, which may not even be directly related to her powers. 71.193.152.63 13:57, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

A different perception of pain might be unusual, but not necessarily superhuman. And Claire doesn't seem to enjoy getting hurt or lack fear, she just knows she'll be okay in the end. Also, while you might take the comment to mean something like "she feels less pain overall", Wikipedia must maintain a NPOV. The statement was ambiguous and could have different meaning than was assumed or implied. All we know is that her peception is "different". Also, while certain factors might seem vital, we try to keep this to the bear minimum. We could mention Peter's apparent need to be right next to the "source" character whose powers he mimicks or DL's possible need to touch an object before phasing, but that's stuff for their articles and way too detailed. Stuff like the Nik's split personality or Isaac's drug problem may have been pre-existing factors, and are still vital elements. "Jessica" does seem directly connected to Niki's superstrength, as Niki has never shown any when she's acting like herself. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 18:30, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Changed Micah's power to "telemechanics", I just made the word up. I am awesome. That is my power. lol.Template:Unsigned6

Changed Mohinder's power to "clairvoyance" from "psychometry." Psychometry is the very specific power to ascertain details from objects. There is no proof that Mohinder's visions came from any objects in his vicinity. Until more details emerge, it would be safer to assume that his ability to see the past events he couldn't possibly know of comes purely from himself. 66.82.9.42 06:29, 14 November 2006 (UTC)