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I've broken these into two separate tables, not because one is "better" or "more 5K" than the other (hence removed the "true" term), but rather to make clear the differences between these types of display. No info is lost or made worse by having them like this. Have also made edits to add info & markup corrections. If you have an issue, please discuss here '''before''' proceeding, as redoing everything just to make some alterations is needlessly time consuming and unappreciative of other users' efforts to make substantive positive natured clarifications to article text. Thanks in advance. [[User:Jimthing|Jimthing]] ([[User talk:Jimthing|talk]]) 04:06, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
I've broken these into two separate tables, not because one is "better" or "more 5K" than the other (hence removed the "true" term), but rather to make clear the differences between these types of display. No info is lost or made worse by having them like this. Have also made edits to add info & markup corrections. If you have an issue, please discuss here '''before''' proceeding, as redoing everything just to make some alterations is needlessly time consuming and unappreciative of other users' efforts to make substantive positive natured clarifications to article text. Thanks in advance. [[User:Jimthing|Jimthing]] ([[User talk:Jimthing|talk]]) 04:06, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
:Since you are pushing the change, I assumed you would ask on the talk page if you wanted details of why the change was reverted :P I didn't leave any comment since I assumed it was a drive-by edit from someone who didn't actually read the page, but just came in with a pre-conceived notion of what "5K" meant. Given that you separated the monitors with 5120×2880 resolution from the ones without it, but made no distinction between the 5120×2160 and 5120×1440 monitors, it seems your intent was to separate the "real" 5K monitors from the "technically 5K but not 'real' 5K" monitors, based on the mistaken belief that "5K" refers specifically to 5120×2880, a commonly held belief. The wording of your original edit seemed to indicate that as well. We get "drive-by" edits to this effect on this page, as well as the 4K page periodically. Since the entire rest of the page contradicts this, I did not leave any comment on my first reversal since I thought it would be fairly self-explanatory to anyone who read the page (any serious editor), and for a drive-by correction it wouldn't matter.
:Since you are pushing the change, I assumed after I reverted your edit the first time, you would open a discussion here asking why instead of doing the same edit again, if you really wanted to know (to be honest I assumed that would be unlikely, since most of the time these "true 5K" things are just drive-by edits from someone who didn't actually read the page, but just came in with a pre-conceived notion of what "5K" meant). Given that you separated the monitors with 5120×2880 resolution from the ones without it, but made no distinction between the 5120×2160 and 5120×1440 monitors, it seems your intent was to separate the "real" 5K monitors from the "technically 5K but not 'real' 5K" monitors, based on the mistaken belief that "5K" refers specifically to 5120×2880, a commonly held belief. The wording of your original edit seemed to indicate that as well. We get "drive-by" edits to this effect on this page periodically, same as on the 4K page. Since the entire rest of the page contradicts this, I did not leave any comment on my first reversal since I thought it would be fairly self-explanatory to any serious editor just by reading the page, and for a drive-by correction it wouldn't matter.


:In any case, I just don't see any purpose to separating them. It's not as if they can't be distinguished otherwise; both the resolution and the aspect ratio are already listed. Separating then into separate sections based on resolution or ratio just seems redundant, and seems like it still only serves to separate the "real" 5K monitors from the rest, even if you don't state that in your edit, it organizes it in such a way as to practically invite other people passing through (who, again, have a pre-conceived notion that 5120×2880 is the "true 5K resolution") to add a line or edit the section title to "clarify" for people that this is the True 5K resolution or whatever.
:In any case, I just don't see any purpose to separating them. It's not as if they can't be distinguished otherwise; both the resolution and the aspect ratio are already listed. Separating then into separate sections based on resolution or ratio just seems redundant, and seems like it still only serves to separate the "real" 5K monitors from the rest, even if you don't state that in your edit, it organizes it in such a way as to practically invite other people passing through (who, again, have a pre-conceived notion that 5120×2880 is the "true 5K resolution") to add a line or edit the section title to "clarify" for people that this is the True 5K resolution or whatever.

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I've broken these into two separate tables, not because one is "better" or "more 5K" than the other (hence removed the "true" term), but rather to make clear the differences between these types of display. No info is lost or made worse by having them like this. Have also made edits to add info & markup corrections. If you have an issue, please discuss here before proceeding, as redoing everything just to make some alterations is needlessly time consuming and unappreciative of other users' efforts to make substantive positive natured clarifications to article text. Thanks in advance. Jimthing (talk) 04:06, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Since you are pushing the change, I assumed after I reverted your edit the first time, you would open a discussion here asking why instead of doing the same edit again, if you really wanted to know (to be honest I assumed that would be unlikely, since most of the time these "true 5K" things are just drive-by edits from someone who didn't actually read the page, but just came in with a pre-conceived notion of what "5K" meant). Given that you separated the monitors with 5120×2880 resolution from the ones without it, but made no distinction between the 5120×2160 and 5120×1440 monitors, it seems your intent was to separate the "real" 5K monitors from the "technically 5K but not 'real' 5K" monitors, based on the mistaken belief that "5K" refers specifically to 5120×2880, a commonly held belief. The wording of your original edit seemed to indicate that as well. We get "drive-by" edits to this effect on this page periodically, same as on the 4K page. Since the entire rest of the page contradicts this, I did not leave any comment on my first reversal since I thought it would be fairly self-explanatory to any serious editor just by reading the page, and for a drive-by correction it wouldn't matter.
In any case, I just don't see any purpose to separating them. It's not as if they can't be distinguished otherwise; both the resolution and the aspect ratio are already listed. Separating then into separate sections based on resolution or ratio just seems redundant, and seems like it still only serves to separate the "real" 5K monitors from the rest, even if you don't state that in your edit, it organizes it in such a way as to practically invite other people passing through (who, again, have a pre-conceived notion that 5120×2880 is the "true 5K resolution") to add a line or edit the section title to "clarify" for people that this is the True 5K resolution or whatever.
And, apparently, it also invites people to try to promote their preferred "names" for resolutions and formats, as within about a day it has already been edited again and is now littered with all sorts of made-up terminology, written as if it's widespread notation hoping it will catch on and thereby justify itself... The display resolution articles have big issues with people like this all the time, unfortunately.
Let's please keep the page the way it was, I don't see any value added by any of these edits. Quite the opposite in fact, for the latest few... GlenwingKyros (talk) 16:52, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]