Talk:Apelles

Why the army picture ?

I have made a number of attempts at solving the problem with the image thumbnail ( the army) not currently linking to the correct image of the Pompeian mural.

I have checked the pages history and this current military image appears to have been there for a while. This suggests to me that wherever the original thumbnail was stored has replaced it with a file of the same name ? ( The army platoon ) which is causing the problem.

I have also wiki commons to no avail.

Perhaps a more experienced wikipedian can come along and rectify the error?

If a solution is found I would love to hear how it was found.

Thanks

eeZbub.

Apelles' possible last remaining works

It is quiet possible that those very skillful wall paintings in Philipp III's tomb in Vergina are the last remaining works by Apelles. They contain an amazing high level of perspective, mimic, play with light and shade. As Philipp III (halfbrother of Alexander The Great) died in 317bC Apelles was aproximatelly 50 years old.(http://www.mathra.gr/anaskafes/3-vergina/pic5.jpg) --Christian Meißner83.171.170.29 16:49, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

The link is no longer working - do you have a permalink? C. L. Marquette 03:57, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

The phantom reputation

This article uncritically repeats the anecdotes in Pliny and the confident assertions of Victorians: "He thus combined the Dorian thoroughness with the Ionic grace" is a marshmallow. It needs also to trace the phantom that is Apelles, of whom we actually know next to nothing, and his evolving reputation since the Renaissance. The present synthesized biography is an unsourced cocktail. --Wetman (talk) 02:38, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Sextus Empiricus Reference

From page 238 of Ben-Ami Scharfstein's A Comparative History of World Philosophy from the Upanishads to Kant it states, "Humorously, Sextus explains that the skeptics managed to learn composure in the same way as Apelles, the famous painter, managed to learn how to make foam on his painting of a horse. It was when Apelles, angry at his failure, threw his sponge at the painting that the foam finally looked right. Likewise, the Skeptics, who tried and failed to attain composure by solving philosophical problems, suspended their judgment and, as if by accident, found the composure they had been searching for." As such, the statement in the current version that Sextus brings up Apelles as an example of someone who had himself attained composure laughably misses the mark. --Uroshnor (talk) 05:27, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Painter colors

I removed this paragraph:

Painters' colours

The number of colours used by painters in their art has varied greatly. Until the time of Apelles but four were known - white, yellow, red, and black. Green, purple, and blue were discovered later.

This sweeping statement seems rather unlikely. It need more clarification, and a citation of the source. All the best, --Jorge Stolfi (talk) 18:51, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

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"I paint for eternity."

This reported cite seems very much apocryphal and cannot be traced further back than the 19th century. At the very least, it doesn't seem to have an ancient source — the place it has in the paragraph among other Pliny references can induce readers to think it's a quote sourced from ancient sources. Other contemporary references to Apelles seem to have made it an authoritative quote so it seems worth to either find a proper original source for it (I've found it as late as 1817) or to add further caveats to the text about its provenance.