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== Requested move 13 February 2019 ==
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The result of the move request was: '''Moved''': per others <small>([[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions#Closure by a page mover|closed by non-admin page mover]])</small> '''<span style="font-family: Arial">[[User:StraussInTheHouse|<span style="color: red">SITH</span>]] [[User talk:StraussInTheHouse|<span style="color: blue">(talk)</span>]]</span>''' 15:38, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
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[[:Demographics of the Republic of Macedonia]] → {{no redirect|Demographics of North Macedonia}} – Apparently that's the name of the country now. – <span style="font-family: Georgia;">'''''[[User:Illegitimate Barrister|Illegitimate Barrister]]'''''</span> ([[User_talk:Illegitimate_Barrister|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Illegitimate Barrister|contribs]]), 09:46, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
[[:Demographics of the Republic of Macedonia]] → {{no redirect|Demographics of North Macedonia}} – Apparently that's the name of the country now. – <span style="font-family: Georgia;">'''''[[User:Illegitimate Barrister|Illegitimate Barrister]]'''''</span> ([[User_talk:Illegitimate_Barrister|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Illegitimate Barrister|contribs]]), 09:46, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
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* '''Support''' movement of all former "Republic of Macedonia" pages to "North Macedonia" equivalents, as [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/12/nato-flag-raised-ahead-of-north-macedonias-prospective-accession formal name change has now been implemented]. [[User:ACB Smith|<span style="color:Black;">'''Smith'''</span>]][[User talk:ACB Smith|<span style="color:Black; font-size:50%">(talk)</span>]]
* '''Support''' movement of all former "Republic of Macedonia" pages to "North Macedonia" equivalents, as [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/12/nato-flag-raised-ahead-of-north-macedonias-prospective-accession formal name change has now been implemented]. [[User:ACB Smith|<span style="color:Black;">'''Smith'''</span>]][[User talk:ACB Smith|<span style="color:Black; font-size:50%">(talk)</span>]]
* '''Go ahead'''. I've done so many as it is without consensus as I really am not expecting negative feedback later down the line. Of course, I'm happy to stop if someone should alert me that the bold changes remain questionable. --[[User:Juicy Oranges|Juicy Oranges]] ([[User talk:Juicy Oranges|talk]]) 13:32, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
* '''Go ahead'''. I've done so many as it is without consensus as I really am not expecting negative feedback later down the line. Of course, I'm happy to stop if someone should alert me that the bold changes remain questionable. --[[User:Juicy Oranges|Juicy Oranges]] ([[User talk:Juicy Oranges|talk]]) 13:32, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
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Demographic of FYROM IS NOT Demographic of Macedonia !!!

The people of "YUGOSLAV Republic of Macedonia" is "Macedonian Slavs" ---Vergina 17:01, 19 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Apparently, a new census has just completed. I got the data from BBC article (see [1] in Albanian or [2] in Macedonian). Does anyone know of a more official and detailed source? Dori | Talk 16:04, Dec 1, 2003 (UTC)

Official results [3]

Thank you for the link. Dori | Talk 13:44, Jul 10, 2004 (UTC)

Since Wikipedia is a scientific site and source, there is a need for respect of the History and global scientific thought. In addition it is our duty to obey the scientific rules and to respect the historical truth. Last but not least, since there is a political and diplomatic talk about the name of FYROM, it would be better not to use wikipedia as a mean of propaganda. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.203.179.225 (talk) 13:43, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Macedonian Muslims & Turks

  • Macedonians: 1,297,981 or 64.17%. (This also includes Macedonian Muslims 5.86%).
  • Turks: 77,959 or 3.85%.
  • The largest concentration of Macedonian Muslims can be found in Western Macedonia and Eastern Albania. The Centar Župa Municipality is populated by a large number of Macedonian Muslims although for personal reasons most of the population chooses to identify as Turks. Most of the villages in the Centar Župa and Debar regions are populated by Macedonian Muslims. The Struga municipality also holds a large number of Macedonian Muslims who are primarily concentrated in the large village of Labuništa. Further North in the Debar region many of the surrounding villages are inhabited by Macedonian Muslims. The Dolna Reka region is also primarily populated by Macedonian Muslims. They form the remainder of the population which emigrated to Turkey in the 1950's and 1960's.
  • When the Socialist Republic of Macedonia was established in 1944, the Yugoslav government encouraged the Macedonian Muslims to adopt an ethnic Macedonian identity.
  • Some Turkish ethnologists have claimed that the Macedonian Muslims are in fact Slavicized Turks, although this interpretation is not widely supported.[8] The Macedonian writer Jakim Sinadinovski has similarly claimed that the Macedonian Muslims are not, in fact, Slavic Macedonians; this prompted a strong reaction when his thesis was first published in 1988.[9]

In the article about Macedonian Muslims we are informed that most Macedonian Muslims choose to identify themselves as Turks. If that's true then why are they counted as Macedonians? If they identify themselves as Turks and are counted as Turks then Turks in Macedonia would be 9.71% of the population instead of 3.85%. Do they speak Turkish? How do you decide who is actually a Turk and who only claims to be one? By the way most Turks in the Balkan (even in Turkey) are not genetically/ethnically Turks. So what proof is there that these Macedonian Muslims are any less Turks than those of Turkey or the Macedonian Turks? They clearly felt Turkish enough to emigrate en masse to Turkey in the 1950's and 1960's. What difference is there between one brother who decided to emigrate to Turkey and who is a Turk now and the other brother who decided to stay in Macedonia and is denied his right of self identification as a Turk? Whether these Macedonian Muslims are actually Turks or Macedonians doesn't really matter, if they identify themselves as Turks then they are Turks. Ibrahim4048 (talk) 18:58, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 13 February 2019

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved: per others (closed by non-admin page mover) SITH (talk) 15:38, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Demographics of the Republic of Macedonia → Demographics of North Macedonia – Apparently that's the name of the country now. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 09:46, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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