Talk:Gamer

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One common stereotype of the gamer psyche usually pinned on the adolescent or post-adolescent male: usually a high school or college student, who sits staring at a computer monitor almost constantly with a bag of chips and a can of soda. His only friends are those he meets on the Internet, except for those he invites to have LAN parties or role-playing game sessions. He is assumed to speak online in "1337" (pronounced "leet") a "language" made up of characters and numbers that resemble letters. The stereotypes often have elements in common with those of geeks, nerds, sci-fi fans, cult television fans and losers. They are also perceived as having social inadequencies and greater than usual intelligence. The distinguishing factor of a gamer is their avid interest in games.

That's not really a stereotype, that describes somebody who is addicted to gaming, not a gamer. Including those would be a violation of the NPOV policy. Plus, the person who wrote that is probably what people call an "antigamer". Oklonia 02:23, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

(Note: there are many different types of stereotypes about gamers, the one above is merely one of the more common ones.)

See also: Hacker, Script kiddie

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It might be possible to cut this down into something worth keeping, but I doubt it. -Sean Curtin 23:07, Jan 2, 2005 (UTC)

No, a anti-gamer sticks to one game, one console. a gamer is a person addicted to games. Plus, I hate the use of "anti-gamer", Someone is either a gamer or not one.

When I said "antigamer", I meant somebody opposed to video games. You are thinking of the hardcore gamer, not the gamer. A hardcore gamer goes to the extreme and is often stereotyped, but a gamer with no adjective is just passionate about games, and nothing else. Oklonia 03:04, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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This article seems to talk about the history of PC and Console games a lot more than it does about gamers. Could this be addressed? Making the differences between addicts and 'hardcore gamers' more prominent might help some, I was under the impression this was more about casual gamers. The history of the gaming systems/styles should be elsewhere, no? -Anon 19:53, 21 Mar 2005 (EST)

What to do

Personally, I believe that the best thing to do would be delete everything below "Overview" and just leave it as a stub for now. Oklonia 03:17, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I think it could keep "Celebrities". Everything below that is a good start on a separate article for "Video gamer", "Video game player", or something similar. (I know plenty of gamers that don't play video games very often if at all.) Parody 04:54, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

I've got to agree, this is a pretty terrible article. The Gameplay vs. Graphics section made open judgements about the rights and wrongs of certain views - a violation of wikipedia's NPOV policy. Without those NPOV comments, very little was left. Artichoke84 10:23, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

I don't think that's going far enough. This article should read "#REDIRECT [[Game]] {{R from agent noun}}". Percy Snoodle 14:53, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Gamer Vs. Player

Shouldn't the term be Player, we don't call people who read books Bookers we call them readers.

No, we provide definitions for the terms, not terms for the definitions. -- c0bra 23:00, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

I would have to agree with C0bra. The term "gamer" is already established among the gamers. -- Whane 00:42, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Gamer is a widely used and well known term within the Gaming community. It is its own subculture. And, incidently, I do not think it should be merged with "Video Game Player." Lots of people play videogames, not all of those people are gamers. --Naha|^(talk) 13:37, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

I removed Female Gamer from See Also. A female gamer is a gamer who is female. Enough said. --ScarletSpiderDave 14:30, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

I see it's been added back in, and I noticed the Girl Gamer page was nominated for deletion, but the result was no consensus. I guess it's here to stay. --ScarletSpiderDave 09:27, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Etymology?

I'd love to see some more info on this page. What communities first started using the term "gamer", and when? Where did it come from, what did it originally mean? Would be nice to link to some more sources related to this, I'll add any I might happen to come across. radimvice 23:19, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Non-electronic games

Even though role-playing, tabletop, and board gamers are (very briefly) mentioned in the article, they are still treated as a secondary topic to video games. In my opinion, the article should either be expanded greatly in regards to non-video gamers or possibly even split into the separate articles video gamer and gamer (which could link to the full video gamer article within a subsection). - Atomskninja 11:07, 18 November 2006 (UTC)