Talk:San Francisco Bay Area

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Rewriting the article

Hey everyone, I am currently working on a rework of this article. It is currently not in a great shape, with a lot of missing citations and entire sections that are completely blank. I could use some help on this immense task, so if any editors are free and have time to help out, please check out my sandbox at User:haha169/sandbox and help me fill it in. Much appreciated! --haha169 (talk) 09:06, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:San Francisco Bay Area/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Power~enwiki (talk · contribs) 19:48, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

1. Is it well written?

   A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:

   B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:

2. Is it verifiable with no original research?

   A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:

   B. All in-line citations are from reliable sources, including those for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines:

   C. It contains no original research:

   D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:

   The copyvio tool brought a few links I'm going to have to read more closely before checking this off. As one (largely harmless) example, the two sentences on burrowing owls are fairly closely paraphrased from [1]. power~enwiki (π, ν) 20:10, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

   [2] is also a fairly close paraphrasing in the bird section. The other matches were false-positives, either for correctly-referenced direct quotes or from using phrases like "the San Francisco Bay Area" a lot. power~enwiki (π, ν) 20:22, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

   This is fine after updates. power~enwiki (π, ν) 14:06, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:

   B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):

4. Is it neutral?

   It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:

5. Is it stable?

   It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:

6. Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?

   A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:

   B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail: Pass.

Thank you for your review! I've rewritten the sections on the burrowing owl and bald eagles so that it shouldn't be copyvios anymore. I tried running Earwig's tool but either my internet is not working or is very slow, but nothing is showing up. Let me know if you see any other potential copyvios! --haha169 (talk) 04:30, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

The tool is very slow at best, it took over a minute to run for me. power~enwiki (π, ν) 14:06, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Edit

"Sacramento is not part of bay area. Sacramento is the capital of California. This area has most counties. This area has the most bridges in the state."

This edit has now reverted. 2601:205:C100:627F:68C2:6098:35C8:F9B7 (talk) 00:58, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Everyone should add it back! --2601:205:C100:627F:4108:A7AC:D3E0:C868 (talk) 18:45, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Affordability?

The article says nothing about affordability, density restrictions, a certain tax proposition California has had for a while, etc. That is interesting since the population is set to explode once those little problems are solved. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:6306:5000:3617:EBFF:FEDE:435B (talk) 19:40, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Well, not that we really need Wikipedia to know these things. They are quite obvious to anyone in the tech industry who can't yet afford the bay area. But shouldn't WP be a balanced source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:6306:5000:3617:EBFF:FEDE:435B (talk) 19:43, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Also, it would be nice to be able to read about these things on WP rather than having to go to other sources that are perhaps not reviewed as thoroughly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:6306:5000:3617:EBFF:FEDE:435B (talk) 19:45, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

You should feel free to update the article yourself with this information, given proper sourcing of course! --haha169 (talk) 12:09, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

I plan to add a section to the "Economy" section regarding poverty, its causes, manifestations, and potential solutions in the Bay Area. It would also perhaps provide a nice transition into the following section on homelessness. This will include sources discussing the negative impacts of the technology industry and the industrialization and shipping industries. Marleypirochta (talk) 00:54, 8 March 2019 (UTC)marleypirochta

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Homelessness in the Bay Area

Hi, fellow Wikipedians!

I would like to add a section on homelessness in the Bay Area. Since the housing crisis is a critical problem that has been growing for decades and is now a distinctive aspect of the Bay Area, I think it would be beneficial to add a section on homelessness.

I have been compiling all the necessary data with verified sources so will be ready to add this section soon. Please feel free to also add to this as well.

--Katrina0118 (talk) 03:07, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

@Katrina0118:, thank you for your interest in helping us out! I just wanted to point out that we have a section (the last paragraph in "Economy") that deals with the housing crisis. If you can add/improve on that section, that would be great! As for homelessness, you can either create a new subsection under "Demographics" or perhaps just continue with the housing crisis section in "Economy". How it would be best organized would depend on the content of what you're contributing.

Again, thank you for your help! --haha169 (talk) 08:28, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your help! Since there's so much information on housing in the Bay Area and various aspects to discuss about it (e.g. cost of living, causes and effects, etc.), do you think it would be better organized to make a "Housing" subsection under "Economy"? Katrina0118 (talk) 05:40, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Absolutely, that is a suitable idea as well! --haha169 (talk) 13:36, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Maps

Can someone please improve the maps in this otherwise helpful article? Specifically, not one map indicates "San Pablo Bay" vs "San Francisco Bay" -- not even the article's section on Hydrography. I'd also love to see the "Golden Gate" geographical feature labeled, the different islands and bridges clearly named, etc, etc, although that might be asking too much. Thanks! Tina Kimmel (talk) 17:52, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Addition of Stanislaus and Merced counties

I noticed that as of Sep 2018 (https://www.census.gov/geographies/reference-files/time-series/demo/metro-micro/delineation-files.html), the Census Bureau now includes Stanislaus and Merced counties (aka Modesto and Merced MSAs) as part of the CSA. They should be incorporated into the article. Noahnmf (talk) 07:27, 6 January 2019 (UTC)