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You may not be aware of the usual WP method of resolving conflicts about whether or not something is to be included in an article. We do NOT just ping back-and-forth with reverts; once an addition has been reverted, a discussion is started about the issue - you do not respond with just re-reverting, particularly if your reasons are just "you are being subjective".

I am not going to kick off half a dozen separate discussions on the individual article talk pages, because the issue is the same on all of them. Instead, I am going to place notices redirecting people here, so that comments can be centralized.

To restate my assessment: the majority of these additions (i.e., the ones that I reverted - Gorilla‎‎, Western lowland gorilla, Eastern lowland gorilla, Sea lion‎‎, California sea lion, Komodo dragon, Meerkat) are

of comparatively low quality; with a large selection of images for these species being available, we don't need low quality examples in the articles
redundant; they demonstrate no new facets that have not yet been illustrated, and as the articles are all very well provided with pictures already, they are not needed

I therefore believe that none of these should be added to the article. Counterarguments? --Elmidae (talk · contribs)

I concur with this assessment. The days when a visit to the zoo was likely to yield a photo that merited inclusion in a Wikipedia article are long behind us. Adding your own photos, then questioning other editors' objectivity is disingenuous. William Avery (talk) 18:06, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with Elmidae. The photo of the meerkat for example is not great. Unsharp subject, harsh light, blown highlights and poor composition. If you have really good pictures, you can try to nominate them in Commons:Quality images candidates, then it will be easier after promotion to include them in the related articles -- Basile Morin (talk) 00:01, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

so you got your own little fan club of bullies here i see, i have put a lot of pictures on wikipedia, its the first time i hear of this so called procedure, and it is nonsense, its subjective, you bullies can claim to be proffesional photographers, that is your right, but i do not agree, and second wikipedia is made by volunteers not by national geographic photographers, so your comments make no sense at all, i do see what this is, you see those pages as your personal domain/property to protect/control, im not gona play that silly game with you, im gona revert them all, if you dont like it get one of the admins to solve it.

this one is ok according to you? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_lowland_gorilla#/media/File:Gorilla_beringei_graueri01.jpg

but this one is not.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_lowland_gorilla#/media/File:Eastern_Lowland_Gorilla_ZOO_Antwerp_2.jpg

what a joke.... SpaceMusk (talk) 08:10, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

SpaceMusk, do not attack or comment on other contributors. You will notice that the other participants in the discussion are talking about the content, the photos in question. Please do the same; if you can show why any of the photos you prefer is better than the ones that were previously in the article, do so without making any claims about other editors' motivations. Thank you. --bonadea contributions talk 10:17, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

oh ok another bullie from the fan club, this time it is telling me not to talk about the behaviour or motivations of other people, but yet it is telling me about mine.... right, and secondly it has no idea what this discussion is about because i did not delete any pictures, i just added a few, and they where removed for no reason.. but ok... i think wikipedia should introduce friend lists to see how people are connected here, then maybe we would find out how objective this website really is ;-) SpaceMusk (talk) 13:24, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

March 2019

Please refrain from abusing warning or blocking templates, as you did to User talk:Bonadea. Doing so is a violation of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Please use the user warnings sandbox for any tests you may want to do, or take a look at our introduction page to learn more about contributing to the encyclopedia. Thank you. - Tom | Thomas.W ^talk 13:40, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your interactions with other editors

Please stop attacking other editors - they are entitled to disagree with you on photo changes, and to tell you why they disagree. You're being disagreed with, not bullied. Acroterion (talk) 13:41, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

so someone can give comments on my speech but i can not give a comment back, how is that a conversation? SpaceMusk (talk) 13:46, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The other editors have given you feedback on the pictures. You've responded with accusations and edit-warring. Please stick to polite discussion of why you think your pictures are more appropriate, and please slow down. Acroterion (talk) 13:50, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) Calling people "bullies" for disagreeing with you is a personal attack. Pointing that out is not a personal attack. That's the difference.

Find a different way to contribute for now, because you're clearly getting emotionally invested over your pictures being removed. See WP:OWN for why that's a bad way to go about things. Ian.thomson (talk) 13:51, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ok tell me why this picture is technically better https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_lowland_gorilla#/media/File:Gorilla_beringei_graueri01.jpg

than this one? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_lowland_gorilla#/media/File:Eastern_Lowland_Gorilla_ZOO_Antwerp_2.jpg

if you give me an objective reasonable answer, i will stop...