User talk:Renamed user 178yamhz5r49a5f1b1f

Removing AfD template

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Wikia

Since wikia is user-edited content I do not see how it's content would fall under a copyright. Like Wikipedia, other websites use mirrors on content. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 01:48, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

@Knowledgekid87: Please read this for more info on my position:

I wanted to discuss something interesting which cropped up when getting a copypasted article removed. I am 100% happy with the current position of the article Akira Hiramoto - of which the plaigarised article is only in the revision history to serve as a documentation of the free article to reference the resolved incident. The average user will not need to read the edit history or peruse the many logs WP has to deal with such issues.

Wikipedia refers to free CC content as usable with attribution - 100% true. Without attribution, things are different - as CCBYSA3 in full explicitly states that all works under it do have a conditional copyright on them (but are free with attribution), works that are not attributed could be a copyright violation. So I immediately tagged the article before doing anything about it, which is fine.

I joined Wikipedia informally about two years back. It really got my goat to see people ripping off Wikipedia which I responded to with the use of this letter to inform online people of this behaviour not being right - the revolutionary thought that people should have to work for their content or state who did the work. Hence, I think there is a misconception people have about this that editors on Wikipedia have to deal with a lot.

However, WP:COPYVIO doesn't really state this and this could compound the common misbelief that the "free licenses" (which allow free use with attribution and other features if necessary) is actually free to just copypaste, sell, rehost or download. This issue is not really attributable to Wikipedia where the "human readable" summary is less obstructing - the unported CC-BY-SA 3.0 license Wikipedia uses explicitly states that Wikipedia content is copyrighted against people not stating that Wikipedia wrote the work and the identity of the source article.

The culprit behind this issue is probably Creative Commons - who marketed their license as free during the advent of collaborative editing and don't go to the full effort to disclose that their CC license suite is a just copyright license suite that allows conditional free usage.

— Userpage post "Discussion of the true nature of Creative Commons' license suite" on Kusma's talk page - Speedit

As for Wikia, they use the same license so the same terms apply - check the "Licensing" page at Wikia.

As you're here because of Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Akira_Hiramoto, I'm cool with the existence of this content in the edit history of a specific article and I'm more focused on preventing the unattributed usage of content by editors here or elsewhere.

On the Wikipedia license page, they use an unported license that states this:

"THE WORK (AS DEFINED BELOW) IS PROVIDED UNDER THE TERMS OF THIS CREATIVE COMMONS PUBLIC LICENSE ("CCPL" OR "LICENSE"). THE WORK IS PROTECTED BY COPYRIGHT AND/OR OTHER APPLICABLE LAW. ANY USE OF THE WORK OTHER THAN AS AUTHORIZED UNDER THIS LICENSE OR COPYRIGHT LAW IS PROHIBITED."

These mirrors attribute their content so their usage is licensed under CC-BY-SA.

So under CCBYSA, all content is copyrighted but attributed mirroring and copying is allowed - i.e. the attributed content is automatically licensed. As the article was tagged with the attribution template before removal by me, I'm cool with the article's current position as a original stub and its nice that the text was removed after my objection when there was no legal obligation to do so.

I appreciate that Wikipedia is a internet paradigm for removing content that could be copyrighted or actually violate WP:PLAG. This was done promptly and well.

Moreover, what are your thoughts on the misuse of CC-BY-SA content without attribution - as easy as it is to fix? (We all know that saying "This work is by so-and-so", "According to so-and-so" or "See <source>" for the original article is doable.)  Speeditor talk  21:15, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

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