Talk:Yellow vests protests

Yellow Vest Movement Motivated by Resistance to Raising Fuel Prices Caused by Macron's Carbon Taxes

We are having a dispute over the causes of this movement. These sources consider one of the causes of the Yellow Vests Movement to be carbon taxes levied by Macron. Here is a sample quote from WaPo:

"The protesters’ chief complaint: the rising cost of diesel fuel. The recent price hike is a direct result of President Emmanuel Macron’s commitment to curbing climate change, which included higher carbon taxes for 2018, the first full year of his term."

In other words, carbon taxes--> rising cost of fuel --> yellow vest protestors' complaints.

Here is the reference. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/frances-climate-change-commitments-trigger-rising-diesel-prices-and-street-protests/2018/11/17/fdc01fa6-e9b1-11e8-8449-1ff263609a31_story.html

For other references, see: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/06/world/europe/france-fuel-carbon-tax.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/why-are-the-yellow-vests-still-protesting-in-france-his-name-is-macron/2018/12/08/36488d00-fa2d-11e8-8642-c9718a256cbd_story.html

An editor is deleting my addition without references while threatening me through warnings, despite my repeatedly referencing respected sources. On his talk page, he also has a history of editing others' comments without talk or reference despite their protests. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bostonisfun (talk • contribs) 03:59, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

@Mélencron: I agree that the story is probably more complicated than is easily summarized in a two word noun phrase such as "carbon tax" being an infoboxable root cause of the movement... the complaint was more that gvt policy was "passing along the financial burden for the carbon tax to individuals who could barely afford it, rather than passing it on to -- say -- Amazon/CDiscount/diesel maritime shipping clients"... Still, I don't think Bostonisfun is wrong. Is there a compromise suggestion / middle way? -- SashiRolls ^{t · c} 12:35, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Infoboxing an ark

• Collectivist anarchism
• Individualist anarchism

References

The above has been removed from the infobox. @Lapaix12: could you please stop re-adding every flavor of anarchy you can find and sourcing it to an article that, outside its headline, does not seem to mention anarchy at all? -- SashiRolls ^{t · c} 11:54, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Meta: Wikidata fiddling

In the wise wisdom of the freelance metadata movement for max-ontic dysruptivity, Wikidata has two entities for the YVM: Q60781646 and Q58805164. I've tried to get this sorted down there in the data dungeon but from the looks of things that might be addressed sometime in 2020. ^^ In the meantime, though this entry developed fairly independently of the French article, it might not be a bad idea to link to the flagship vestship entry in the country where the movement is (apparently) still going on. SashiRolls ^{t · c} 07:25, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

I finally figured out how to fix this, though there are still two Q-points. SashiRolls ^{t · c} 12:29, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

WP:NOTEVERYTHING

I've joined Hesperian Nguyen in removing the factoid that the "No Carbon Tax Vermont" group is "composed mostly of men". It has now been sourced, but remains incredibly uninteresting. Compare WP:NOTEVERYTHING: "A Wikipedia article should not be a complete exposition of all possible details". Bishonen | talk 11:59, 31 March 2019 (UTC).

Agree with both of you. It seems trivia.--SharabSalam (talk) 12:22, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

The journalist thought it was interesting. I did too, which is why I echoed her observation in the first place. Now, it's in the quote field, which is a good place for it, I think. SashiRolls ^{t · c} 12:23, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Note that the original submission simply stated the fact that there was an event, the group behind that event, and the date of the event. Porkupine802 (talk) 04:29, 4 April 2019 (UTC)