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Hi, I've been working on the article Thomas Parry (Chennai merchant), which has several issues. For example, it needs more references, and some of of the information in it contradicts itself. There is another page on Thomas Perry in the Welsh Wikipedia, and I think that the information from each page could be used to improve the other. However, I'm rather new here and I don't understand Welsh, so I may not be the most qualified person for the job. Can anyone help? Pagesdish (talk) 16:46, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

I don't read Welsh. however the page in Welsh is a stub,with what appears to be no information of value, the two links embedded are dead(they go nowhere).Oldperson (talk) 21:20, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

You can find other sources besides the page's Welsh version. For instance, the book History Dictionary of the Tamils (ISBN: 9781538106853). chronicled the time he landed in Chennai in 1788 until the time his banking and trading agency flourished. After a quick Google search, I also found some online sources you can use. Darwin Naz (talk) 23:53, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

I placed a search template on the talk page of your article. It may help you find more sources. Thanks for visiting the Teahouse and come back if you run into problems. Best Regards, Barbara ✐✉ 19:28, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

References

WP:WEB

WP:WEB can be tricky, if a source is IN (=used on various pages) it might pass as RS, if it's OUT (not used) it generally fails as RS, a chicken or the egg issue. If a website exists for years, is "noted" by reliable independent 3rd party sources, but not (yet) used, how can the notability be checked here? I'm aware of w:de:Relevanzcheck, but w:de:Relevance is not exactly the same idea as w:en:Notability. Two cases I'm currently interested in:
The HYpocriteDEsign magazine looks good for me, it's used as source outside of enwiki (~7 pages on google:Hypocritedesign), two uses on enwiki, not counting Talk:Hypocrite (disambiguation)#HyocriteDesign.
Harder, Sara Doucette has a website hellothemushroom.com, noted by some 3rd parties,^[1][2][3][4] and one of her irregular book reviews was quoted by Amazon in an "editorial review" (NOT customer review). I'm not hot about this source, I added it, somebody else removed it after discussing the issue, fine. But I'm still curious if her site actually is notable and unreliable simultaneously, so far I thought that this is a stunt for The Sun, The Examiner, Breitbart, CNET, or similar crap, not mostly harmless living persons. –84.46.52.48 (talk) 19:37, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

The archive bot moved that to 930, but I'm actually still waiting for an answer or a better suggestion, maybe WP:RS/N? –84.46.52.44 (talk) 22:05, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

@84.46.52.44: To be honest with you, I don't entirely understand what you're asking. Based on your post to the Hypocrite talk page, I think what you're trying to ask is whether a source can be reliable while not also having a Wikipedia article about that source? If so, that's true - a site can be reliable but not necessarily be notable enough for its own Wikipedia article, as notability and reliability are two different concepts. And as you've noted website can be notable enough for its own Wikipedia article and not reliable enough to use as a citation on Wikipedia. Are you trying to create an article for HelloTheMushroom? SportingFlyer T·C 05:31, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

No, I tried to use a book review published by her on the The Mismade Girl redirect target. What I don't get is how a site so far not used as source on enwiki can be recognized as RS. It this like the Internet in the 90s, if you're IN you're IN, and otherwise you can't get IN? Is the only way to get IN some guerilla tactics, use a site here and there as source, and if nobody intervenes decree that it is "obviously" a RS, because it's then used as source on some pages? –84.46.52.195 (talk) 21:04, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

@84.46.52.195:I wanted to chime in to hopefully give you some clarity on the matter. I think your confusion rests mostly on this one statement: "WP:WEB can be tricky, if a source is IN (=used on various pages) it might pass as RS," This is false. A source's use in other wikipedia articles is 100% unrelated to whether it is a reliable source or not. There have even been times when sources were widely used throughout Wikipedia, were declared unreliable after discussion, and then were blacklisted and removed from all instances. A source's reliability depends on how accurate it is, and you can refer to the policy (which you've already linked to) to find out what what constitutes a reliable source. Additionally, as another editor already explained, the policy WP:WEB has nothing to do with reliable sources. It is discusses whether a website is important enough to have its own article in Wikipedia. Notability guidelines differ a little from one kind of article to the next, but a subject can usually get it's own article if it's been widely talked about, written about, referenced, discussed from MAJOR third-party sources. I looked at your edits on the Sasha Grey article you mentioned, and you added a reference from Vice.com, and it's still there. I'm not sure why you said you "tried" to use a book review. Did you previously try to add a reference from a source that's been blacklisted, but couldn't save the edits? If that's the case, the site has been blacklisted after the community discovered the source is not reliable, and this is only done with particularly egregious sites.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 12:33, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll ignore WP:WEB+notability for my two RS questions: Hellothemushroom.com was the source added + later removed as not RS (after discussion) for her book review. I haven't tried hypocritedesign.com so far; both sites are unknown in the RS/N archives. –84.46.53.186 (talk) 11:50, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Two Articles Deleted - Even after extensive referencing

Hi everyone, I am sure this gets asks many many times.

I wrote two articles and both are being deleted. IN both cases, I added extensive references from Reputable News Sources, Newspapers, online newsites, etc. My concern, is that the reviewers who deleted are not from my area and do not recognize these sources. In both cases, it was commented that the sources were minor and 'online.'

I am sure we all agree, that the majority of newspapers are online now, so I do not know the problem. In once case, I created a page for a podcast The Night Time POdcast that has acheived over 5 Million downloads, hit number 27 on the North America iTunes charts, is played on Corus Radio (international multiple stations) has been covered by newspapers in the USA, Canada and the UK. I have no idea why this was rejected for not being 'notable'

The second, is the band Paragon Cause, who similarly have considerable news coverage both nationally and internationally.

Its very frustrating at this point as the editors do not seem to apply standards set out by wikipedia and/or interpret these standards in their own way. Jbonapar (talk) 17:34, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Jbonapar. You seem to have a far more lenient definition of a reliable source than most other editors do. At Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paragon Cause, for example, you argued that: "Music blogs, unpaid ones Like Comeherefloyd, Spill Magazine, New Noise Magazine should be considered quality sites as they are not for pay and in todays digital music world, they are one of the primary methods in which artist become notable." This is completely contrary to the widespread consensus that amateur blogs and other self-published sources are worthless for establishing notability. Reliable sources have professional editorial control. Bearcat, a highly experienced editor, explained things quite clearly and thoroughly to you in that debate. If you want to write new articles, then it will be important for you to improve your understanding of what constitutes a genuine reliable source and write articles that summarize only what such reliable sources say about the topic. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 18:19, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi there, I am curious what your thoughts are on then of CBC National News, CBC Local News, Global News (one of Canada's largest news), The Halifax Herald (Nova Scotia's largest print newspaper),The Cape Breton Post (Nova Scotia's Second largest print newspaper). Everyone seems to focus on the blogs, but there is a combination of sources, particularly for The Night Time Podcast. I've asked this a number of times and every time I ask, editors respond by talking about 'blogs.' I'd like for once, someone to comment on these references and why they are not credible. I've also posted articles from Corus Radio, Global and iTunes charts. Why are these not credible?

As for Paragon Cause, why is CBC National News, CBC Local News and CBC national Radio not credible? Again, people are focusing on Blogs and not other sources.

I'd appreciate people comment on this as apposed to focus on 'blogs.' Its the collection of evidence, not singular sources viewed in isolation.

As I've mentioned, with all due respect, I've published over 27 peer reviewed surgical articles in major surgery journals, I've appeared on Good Morning America for my research and I am a reviewer for Major Surgical journals including The Laryngoscope, Facial Plastic Surgery, Plastic and Reconstructive Surgery plus others. I know what a reliable source is, I am one just apparently not on wikipedia. Jbonapar (talk) 11:28, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

@Jbonapar:I know the frustration of having articles deleted that, in my opinion, shouldn't have been. So, I looked into the history of these articles (quickly) and, more importantly, did a internet search using various databases that I have access to as well as a good-old-fashioned Google search to see if either of these articles were deleted unfairly. The majority of the The Nighttime Podcast hits I saw were their own pages (Facebook, Patreon, official website, Twitter, etc...) and much of the rest were self-published websites (eg. blogs). I did, however, find that there were a series of episode recaps in a reputable Canadian newspaper, but you appear to be the author of all of them. This is not to say that the Nighttime Podcast is not valid or unimportant, but Wikipedia (I would say rightfully so) gives priority to topics with broad coverage from unaffiliated, third-party sources. Currently, you seem to the main person covering this podcast, which is not sufficient.

In response to Paragon Cause, I had to get to the third page of my Google search before I found a source that wasn't self-published. Then, when I did see other sources, they were simple announcements, like, Paragon Cause will be playing at this venue at this time. Substantial analysis or third-party coverage of this band does not seem to be there yet. All the news articles I found about the band were only related to the Nighttime Podcast and, again, written by you. I did see one article from the CBC about the song "Drop Me In" listing it as a must-hear song of the week. There is possibly some argument that the song is notable (according to WP standards) but again, its claim on notability is tenuous. There is a great chance that this band will eventually garner the kind of analysis from critics, websites, news agencies and the like that would allow editors to give this topic a broad, balanced, and thorough coverage in an article. But, unfortunately, the resources don't seem to be there at present.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 14:53, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

I don't know if this will help but you can ask an administrator to create a draft page in your user space and paste the two deleted articles there as drafts. I would hate to think that you might have wanted to start from scratch. Thanks for your Teahouse visit. Best Regards, Barbara ✐✉ 19:33, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK

Is the DYK in the main page supposed to be April Fools? If it is, isn't it supposed to be out of articles/encyclopedia pages? . Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 22:35, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello Thegooduser and welcome to the Teahouse. Yes, you are right. The DYK section highlights recent work on Wikipedia. From time to time it focuses on a particular theme, and this year it did host an April Fools Day theme. You can see the discussions to arrange it at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#April Fools Day Preps (and a couple of sections that come after that). DYK cycles regularly and they are gone now, so I can't see what was there - it there something there that caused you particular concern? --Gronk Oz (talk) 00:48, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Well there were some sections, I didn't know if they were legit or not, because of the way they were worded... --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 02:36, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

@Thegooduser: I don't know a whole lot about April Fools DYK hooks, but from what I know they're made so that the information is "correct", but it's worded in such a way that it confuses readers before they click the link. For example, for the hook "that 1,900 people in Seattle rode the city's slut on a daily basis", it is confusing to readers at first purposefully, but SLUT is actually an acronym for the South Lake Union Streetcar, which is hidden behind the link. It does appear that there has been a bit of controversy over this, however. Hope this helps!--SkyGazer 512 ^{My talk page} 03:01, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

FYI, Gronk Oz you can actually find all the DYK hooks on the main page for any day on WP:Recent additions and its archives. There is also WP:Main page history. I've found both of those super useful in many circumstances. :-)--SkyGazer 512 ^{My talk page} 03:05, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

SkyGazer512 Yes, that was what I meant to say, the way it was worded was odd. --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 19:55, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

User:SkyGazer 512 fixing ping from message above. Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 19:55, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Legacy way to mark signature?

I was reading a tutorial about formatting and found --~~~~ mentioned as wikicode for a signature with a time stamp but it seems to do the same as ~~~~?

--~~~~ Also mentioned here.

And how do I link to wiki pages like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tutorial/Formatting ? The /Formatting I can't search for in the link creator.

--~~~~ --> --DarkRandi (talk) 15:02, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

~~~~ --> DarkRandi (talk) 15:02, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

DarkRandi, Well, The ~~~~ is what actually adds the signature, the -- just adds those characters before it. As for the link, you may just have to add the /Formatting part manually to the link creator. Hope that helps! WelpThatWorked (talk) 15:12, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

@DarkRandi: Doesn't [[Wikipedia:Tutorial/Formatting]] → Wikipedia:Tutorial/Formatting do what you need? --CiaPan (talk) 15:30, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

WelpThatWorked Should the --~~~~ be removed from the pages then? And CiaPan I tried it with the link button without typing out the code but that seems to work. Thanks! - DarkRandi (talk) 15:45, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

@DarkRandi: The two hyphens are optional in our software. They are called sig dashes and other things. There is no recommendation whether to include them in the English Wikipedia. Wikipedia:Signatures#How to sign your posts says: "click the signature icon to add two hyphens and four tildes like this: --~~~~". The described icon does add two hyphens so this particular description should not be changed. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:28, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Well Mr. WelpThatWorked, I want to tell you something about DarkRandi because as a responsible Wikipedian i shouldn't be biased even if we are from the same country. His name is very offensive. "Randi" is a slang word which means prostitute in Indian language and I think that having names of offensive and abusive nature is strongly opposed so you might take action or find a solution towards it, if it exists. From a universal servant Levent Heitmeier (talk) 17:37, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

@Levent Heitmeier: I understand your perspective. However, the word in question is also a legitimate name that many people have, and the username policy indicates only to take action if there is no legitimate reason to have such a username. -A lad insane (Channel 2) 17:49, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

I changed my signature to make it less obvious, is it good now Levent Heitmeier?

Also PrimeHunter this formatting page says that --~~~~ does "Sign talk comments (with time stamp)" and then shows the username with a time stamp but no hyphen so we should add hyphens there I guess? - DarkRandik (talk) 19:36, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

@DarkRandi: Yes, that makes sense. I have added the hyphens.[5] PrimeHunter (talk) 19:50, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

DarkRandi I am nobody to decide what is obvious and what is not. What I feel is going wrong here or there gets reported to someone who is more experienced. Actually names can never be offensive unless it is Sergio Ramos. You just have to keep yourself polite enough like Nick Moyes to respond to the other guys in a good manner. Happy editing! From a universal servant Levent Heitmeier (talk) 01:02, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Historical background: tear line, that used to be the end of an e-mail before the signature, a new line consisting of -- followed by a trailing US-ASCII SPace and the end of line (CrLf). Just for fun I now always use –~~~~ (CheckUsers might like it, or ignore it as an too obvious diversion, if they assume bad faith as they should.;) –84.46.52.28 (talk) 02:44, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Autoconfirm Status

My account is 4 days old and I have made nearly 55 edits that why am I not yet autoconfirmed? If a user dies that then consider it as a reminder. From a universal servant Levent Heitmeier (talk) 17:28, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi Levent Heitmeier. Your account is 3 days and 13 hours.[6] Autoconfirmation requires 4 full days. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:33, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

But when you open my user page it shows below my name that I joined Wikipedia 4 days ago which as far as I know is true. From a universal servant Levent Heitmeier (talk) 17:40, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

@Levent Heitmeier: I understand why you are confused. The issue is with rounding differences. On your userpage, the counter rounds to the nearest full day; the "autoconfirmed" counter always rounds down, so that when an account is between 3.5 and 4 days old (as yours is) there is a discrepancy. In 11 hours, you will be autoconfirmed. -A lad insane (Channel 2) 17:44, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for informing me about that! Wish you a very nice day. From a universal servant Levent Heitmeier (talk) 18:06, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

PrimeHunter My account is now more than 4 days old but it hasn't got autoconfirmed yet. Can you please check what the problem is? From a universal servant Levent Heitmeier (talk) 15:18, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

I just checked, and you are in fact autoconfirmed. If you got to your userpage, and hit the "user rights management" link on the left hand side of the page you can see what rights you have, autoconfirmed is not one of the checkable boxes and will appear above the main list. Beeblebrox (talk) 15:23, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

I think that "user rights management" is visible to admins but not to mere mortals. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:28, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

You are autoconfirmed, as shown here. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:28, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Yes, that is the target of the "User rights management" link admins have on user pages (we see more on that page as hinted by Beeblebrox). You can also see your own account is autoconfirmed at Special:Preferences. @Levent Heitmeier: What makes you think you are not autoconfirmed? PrimeHunter (talk) 19:08, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

PrimeHunter Actually my way to check that was a bit different. I opened my contributions, clicked on any one of them and below you can get your user name and your status like administrators, Rollbacks etc. In my case it was blank so i thought that i am not auto-confirmed. Anyways thanks! From a universal servant Levent Heitmeier (talk) 04:05, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

@Levent Heitmeier: I have added [7] this to the description of that feature: "The automatically assigned autoconfirmed user is not displayed here but can be seen at Special:UserRights." PrimeHunter (talk) 10:24, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

• Levent Heitmeier is editing from mobile where user groups are displayed prominently in diff pages. @Levent Heitmeier: You cannot see "autoconfirmed" there because it's not actually a right, but rather a check that's done by the software every time you try to edit. – Ammarpad (talk) 18:03, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Need Help with Editing Benjamin Bradley page

Hi my name is Kirstyn Prager and I am editing Benjamin Bedley's page for Dr. Vans, Early American Hist. at Cal Poly Pomona.shalor toncray is our wiki assistant. My question is that I have discovered the true name of Benjamin Bradley which is Benjamin Boardley, how should I add this other name. Should I create a new page and ink it to the Benjamin Bradley page? And if so, could you please direct me on how to do so.Or should I add the citation on the same page since so many books have been written about him with the wrong name? Thank you. Kaprager (talk) 22:19, 3 April 2019 (UTC)kaprager

Hello, Kaprager. If you have a reliable published source, then you can add the information to the article Benjamin Bradley (inventor), citing the source. If the bulk of the sources used the name "Bradley", then the page should not be moved (renamed). But what you can do is to create a redirection: create an article Benjamin Boardley (that shows as red at present because the article doesn't exist) containing the text #REDIRECT [[Benjamin Bradley (inventor)]]. Then anybody that goes to the Boardley page will automatically be sent to the Bradley page.

Incidentally, Wikipedia is not interested in whether you are editing for somebody else (unless you are editing an article about that somebody else or a person or organisation that person is closely connected to: in this case, you would have a conflict of interest). It is also not interested in whether somebody is your "wiki assistant": as far as Wikipedia is concerned, both you and your wiki assistant are editing only for yourselves, and are responsible for your own edits. --ColinFine (talk) 00:08, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank You!!!Kaprager (talk) 16:56, 5 April 2019 (UTC)Kaprager

Editing Tables

I notice that in some tables the far left column is shaded darker grey like the top row. When editing that far left column (i.e. titles in a discography) and create a new row, the titles get written in bold and centered, as opposed to aligned to the left and italicized (no bold). And I can't get it to change. Please advise. Also, I'm using the visual editor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by YouCanDoBetter (talk • contribs) 05:27, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi, YouCanDoBetter welcome to the Teahouse. I've had a play around and have a solution for you. It will involve you switching to Source Editor to make one small change which I don't think you can do in Visual Editor (I appreciate you telling us which editing tool you were using - that really helps). As always, I advise testing tables in your personal sandbox, which I've just done (see here) and have copied below. I took one of the many tables from the article Johnny Cash albums discography and tried repeating what you describe using only Visual Editor. That gives the first of three new entries (Nick Moyes sings) which you see centred in bold (not what you want, and for multiple reasons!).

Still using Visual Editor, and by going to the toolbar and switching the setting from Header cell to Contents cell, I managed to insert the second of my three new 'hit' singles. But I could not find a way to reinstate the shaded background from the white one. Again, this isn't what you want.

The solution you need to follow is simple, but you'll have to use Source Editor by clicking the 'Edit source' Tab (although be aware you might have set your 'Preference' not to show this. If that's the case, you'll need to change your own personal settings.) Anyway, open in Source Editor and look over the way the wikimarkup has created the table, especially paying attention to the line showing the album titles. It looks like this:

! scope="row" |The Fabulous Johnny Cash

Notice the ! scope="row" entry before vertical pipe (|) symbol followed by the album title in italics (the pipe defines a new cell, and italics are created with double apostrophes either side of the title)

If you now copy and paste in ! scope="row" before the title of your new entry you will be adding a command which changes the appearance of the cell to the one you want. Check the last entry in the demo table below:

1950s

Title	Details	Peak positions
		US
Johnny Cash with His Hot and Blue Guitar	Release date: October 11, 1957 Label: Sun Records	1
The Fabulous Johnny Cash	Release date: November 3, 1958 Label: Columbia Records	19
Johnny Cash Sings the Songs That Made Him Famous	Release date: November 17, 1958 Label: Sun Records	1
Nick Moyes sings	Release date: 4 April 2019	4,124,292
Greatest!	Release date: January 12, 1959 Label: Sun Records	66
Nick Moyes keeps on singing (ft: BADLY)	Never released (thank goodness)	-
Songs of Our Soil	Release date: September 1, 1959 Label: Columbia Records	76
Nick Moyes gets it right by editing wiki source	Limited edition
"—" denotes releases that did not chart

If you want to learn more about formatting in Tables, just click the link in my third hit single to take you to Help:Table and do a text search for: scope="row" It's a massive and detailed help file, but you should find much there to assist you in future table editing using the Source Editor. Let me know if this helps. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 09:27, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Some YouTubers sing, WikiMedians should be also allowed to try it. –84.46.52.28 (talk) 02:31, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Capitals in a Title

How do I change the capitalization (but not spelling) of the words in the title of a Wikipedia article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DeklinCaban (talk • contribs) 14:10, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

@DeklinCaban: You would move the article to the correct title, with the proper capitalization. To move an article, see the guidance at HELP:MOVE. --Jayron32 14:33, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

@DeklinCaban: Please read WP:TITLEFORMAT before you do any more of this. "T-Pose" is not correctly capitalized under Wikipedia's style manual; it should be "T-pose". For example, if your subject line for this Teahouse thread was an article title, it would be correctly capitalized as "Capitals in a title". Thanks. - Julietdeltalima (talk) 18:07, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Userboxes

I would like some userboxes on my user page that shows how many orbits the planets have made since I joined Wikipedia. I don't have experience creating userboxes so I would like someone to create it for me. If you can find someone who is willing to make these userboxes, please direct them to this Teahouse post. Mstrojny (talk) 21:25, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

If you look at Wikipedia:Userboxes, there is a list of users who will help you create a user box. You may want to browse the existing user boxes first to see if what you want already exists. RudolfRed (talk) 22:48, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Teahouse host trouted. Mstrojny (talk) 23:00, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Oops. Thanks. RudolfRed (talk) 23:06, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Hey, Mstrojny, do give it a try yourself. It'll be a great learning experience for you, and not really that difficult (apart maybe from the counting the planets bit(!) And which planets anyway: Mercury or Neptune?). I'll bribe you by promising a barnstar if you succeed on your own! And it needn't be one that actually counts. Go for it! I might even put it on my page...for a bit, anyway. PS: No need for the trout - it was you that messed up your signature, not RudolfRed! Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 23:08, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Nick Moyes, I have created the userboxes here. However, I need help with the part that calculates the number of orbits of the planets. Can you help me with that? Mstrojny (talk) 23:45, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Mstrojny I'd love to, but it would be a new area for me, and I simply don't have the time to commit to learning something that's way beyond my current skill level...

(...that's 'me speak' for "No, sorry!"). Nick Moyes (talk) 23:52, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Also, achieving barnstars is not important to me. I like what I do and I strive to do what is best for Wikipedia and I don't expect anything in return (although I would accept barnstars). Mstrojny (talk) 23:56, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

@Mstrojny: see User:DannyS712/template sandbox2 - same parameters, plus a "planet" parameter that determines both the bold text and the image - works for all planets (and pluto). If this works for you I'll clean it up and move it to the template namespace. --DannyS712 (talk) 01:15, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

@DannyS712: Can you please add the documentation so I know what parameters to put in please? I wasn't able to get it to work. Mstrojny (talk) 10:08, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

@Mstrojny:  Done --DannyS712 (talk) 17:59, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

@DannyS712: See my userpage. I still have the errors. Did I do something wrong? Mstrojny (talk) 19:25, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

@Mstrojny: nope - fixed --DannyS712 (talk) 20:15, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

@DannyS712: Could you explain to me what you did to create this userbox? Nick pointed out that it would be great learning experience for me. Mstrojny (talk) 10:24, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

@Mstrojny: Broadly, Danny's template works by relying on {{userbox}} and parser functions to do the calculations involved. Here, {{Userbox}} functions as a "meta template": a template for creating other templates (I put "meta template" in quotes because it's not a common wiki-term, it's just my way of explaining it).

However, while it would be possible for Danny or others to explain every detail of the template's inner workings, it would probably be rather time intensive and probably not as worthwhile as you imagine. Instead, I would suggest reading Help:Template, which will allow you to understand how templates work generically, which will allow you to create or modify any other templates.

If you have any questions or confusion while reading that help page, you are welcome to ask at my talk page (or if you want me to reply here, you can ping me here using {{ping|E to the Pi times i}}; I won't be watching this page, so I won't know otherwise). e^πi (talk | contribs) 14:31, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

@Mstrojny: in short, I used a "switch" function to set the image based on the planet input. Then, having calculated how long you were a user in days, I divided that by the length of a year on the relevant planet, to get the number of years. --DannyS712 (talk) 16:06, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Archiving Closed Discussions

I have saw the talk pages of many article flooded by various closed discussions that have been lying there from years. Should i archive those discussions? I haven't saw any provision for doing so but i think this can help in organizing and updating the talk pages making them more informative and accurate. From a universal servant Levent Heitmeier (talk) 16:34, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Levent Heitmeier! You can archive talk pages according to the instructions at H:ARC. Feel free to archive the talk page you wish to organize. Thanks, –eggofreason^{(talk · contribs)} 17:00, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Yes, please follow those instructions rather than doing this, Levent Heitmeier. I think the templates you added in those edits are rather intended for closing discussions on noticeboards. Cordless Larry (talk) 17:27, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

I got what i wanted. Thanks both of you. Levent Heitmeier (talk) 17:55, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

@Levent Heitmeier: For talk pages that don't get lots of activity - and therefore aren't hugely long - I would prefer editors NOT to archive old messages, but simply to leave them there for all to see without needing further mouseclicks to find out whether archives contain anything worthwhile or not. It might look nice and tidy, but an empty talk page with an archive full of very old messages is far less helpful than a talk page which clearly shows (in one quick view) that there has been no recent activity. That's my take on things, anyway, and I'd prefer to see editors focusing on more useful tasks. (Oops - that sounded far sharper than I intended it to be, sorry!) Nick Moyes (talk) 18:32, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Levent Heitmeier, I undid your closure of this section here. Excepting threads that have become disruptive or are clearly off-topic, we do not close discussions here. Further, there is seldom any reason to close any talk page discussions. The only talk page discussions that need to be closed are RfCs, and that is much better left to administrators or highly experienced editors. Archiving and closing are separate, mostly unrelated, topics. Please do not close talk page discussions. John from Idegon (talk) 19:24, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Levent Heitmeier Also, do not delete content at Talk pages, as you did at Talk:Petr Čech. If you do not understand someone's intent, ask, either at the Talk or at their Talk. David notMD (talk) 23:22, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Nick Moyes John from Idegon Thanks for telling but I'd understood with the help of EggOfReason way before. I didn't knew about it that's why I asked it here and I ask several questions here. But some guys intend like if they knew all this way before joining wikipedia. David notMD Maybe, the experienced guys like you may decipher what is the intent of this IP here, Special: diff/891091990 and yes, I should have discussed it on the IP's talk page which probably belongs to the same person even after 9 years.

I already confessed my apology by asking the question here and that if I did a mistake. If I get even a trace of doubt about one of my edits in my mind, I rush here to ask you all and if I had done wrong, I revert it by myself. The tone of my language may have hurt some peoples for which I am really sorry and ready to take any punishment but this was only intended to tell the other editors to be careful with the way they are talking to a new editor or even anyone. This is the sole reason of all the disputes on this site. My reason to join this is that Jimbo Wales is a genius to have created such a democratic platform for online education and it is yours duty, you the administrators to maintain civility here not the new and foolish guys like me. Many peoples do see me and will see me as an arrogant person here because i reply to only a chosen few and those peoples know about it but this is done by me to avoid any kind of trash talk. From a universal servant Levent Heitmeier (talk) 01:25, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

My comment, earlier today, to not delete content at Talk pages, was instructional, not chastising. I believe the same intent from Nick Moyes and John from Idegon, in recommending that you do not archive article Talk pages and do not close discussions. No punishment intended (nor administered). David notMD (talk) 02:08, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

article denied because of quote

Hi, I had a submission denied because someone said my quote was copyright infringement. I don't understand why. The quote was a quote an author made, talking about herself and why she became an author. This SHOULD fall into the fair use category. I'm certain any attorney would say so. I was not quoting from a book or any other published material. The quote came from the publisher's page about the author. Again, fair use. Are we not allowed to quote anything or anyone? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marionwalsh (talk • contribs) 18:50, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Marionwalsh and welcome to the Teahouse. I am not an administrator, so am unable to see the content that was deleted, or comment on it directly. But your talk page messages clearly suggest you used quite a lot of text that was lifted directly from a copyrighted page (here). Short quotes are acceptable; long ones aren't, and there's quite an interesting essay on the subject at Wikipedia:Quotations. I know how frustrated you must feel, having your draft deleted. This only happens when copyrighted content is not quickly removed. Now, if you put in a lot of work into the draft and want to get a copy to start over again, you could contact the deleting administrator and ask them to email you a copy (making sure, first off, that you have already set up an email address in the first tab of your Preferences). Hope this helps. I've left a nice friendly welcoming message full of useful links on your talk page, and hope this doesn't put you off editing. I should point out that creating a new article is the hardest thing any editor can do here - it's especially challenging for new editors who haven't yet had enough time to understand our policies and ways of doing things. We generally advise everyone to start of slowly by making small edits to existing articles before moving on the whole new pages. Regards from the UK,  Nick Moyes (talk) 19:10, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Warren Brown Sailor Bermuda

There is a biography or sorts on Warren but IMO, is lacking. I worked in Bermuda from September 1954 until September 1956 as a pharmacist in the Medical Hall, owned by Gibbons. My oldest son was born in the old hospital on Jan. 4th 1955 and his mother shared a room with Ann Brown, Warren's wife who also had their first born son the same day. The two women chatted, Ann telling how she had married into a sailing family, Archie Brown her father-in-law and his son, Warren. My wife said that I sailed which was true, small boats In Windsor, Ontario. Ann said "that is interesting, Warren and his dad need a new crew member" and the next day I was phoned while at work by Warren and told to be at the R.B.Y.C. warf by 1 PM the coming Thursday. I went, was rowed out to Warbaby ll and was welcomed aboard by Warren and his father Archie who was helmsman. Warren and another handled the foresails and I was put in charge of the main. The 5th crewmember was for the foredeck man for the balloon spinacker. I crewed for them weekly for 18 months in the races of a fleet of 10 boats in the International One Design class.

My concern is that in the bio on Warren, it states that it lacks information. Well, one of the references is from The Royal Gazette of which I printed out in it's entirety. Warren died on Christmas Day 2014.This obit is an excellent compilation of his lifetime achievements. What really bothers me is that my 2nd wife and I were in Bermuda in October that year and I tried so hard to phone him during the three days we were in the islands, to no avail. This was 56 years after my two year contract with Gibbons. I am two years older then Warren.

So, my question is would it be possible for Wikipedia to obtain permission from The Royal Gazette to print their obit in full, with the two authors named?

Sincerely,

Don Bartlett, Ottawa, Ont. Canada — Preceding unsigned comment added by Slower Old Fox (talk • contribs) 20:05, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Courtesy link to article: Warren Brown (sailor) --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 22:35, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Slower Old Fox. No, Wikipedia does not reprint obituaries in full or any other article published elsewhere in full. Instead, editors summarize those sources in our own words. No permission is needed from the newspaper. Brief attributed quotations are allowed. As for the author's names, you can add them to the refererence. Your personal experiences are interesting and useful if they motivate you to help improve the encyclopedia. But you cannot add your personal experiences to Wikipedia articles. That is contrary to our policy against original research. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:51, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Gazetteer/Carographic reference where?

Hello, hope you're doing well. I'm wondering where to put mapcrow.info

Unlike smaller sites, it includes several million cities more than the major cities. It matches automatically, on nonLatin characters, does sound matches, and finds alternate names such as Peking. It also includes an interactive map. There are pre-filled city lists for every state and country, along with distance charts for individual continents.

It includes a complex, customizable flight time calculator, meeting time calculator,suburb and mountain peak searches and many related searches.

Dan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mapcrow (talk • contribs) 20:52, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Mapcrow. Welcome to the Teahouse. The honest answer is that you should not put it anywhere on Wikipedia. I'm pretty confident it wouldn't met our notability criteria for websites, which is the bar that all articles have to meet. (That said, it's a nifty look-up tool which works OK for the first search, but then is really hard to see where to start a second one.) You username suggests you represent the company, so please don't try to promote your product here yourself, noting that you have a Conflict of Interest and a username that would breach our WP:USERNAME guidelines were you to edit anywhere further on Wikipedia. Sorry to disappoint you. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 00:52, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Article about Toyopet automobiles appears to be incorrect

There are numerous Toyopet dealers currently operating in Japan. I saw the one in Sapporo. If you want to see it go to Google maps and enter Toyopet dealer, Sapporo, Japan. The are others in many locations in Japan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.94.87.231 (talk) 20:57, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

 Additional information needed Hello IP editor. Welcome to the Teahouse and thanks for taking the trouble to make your observation. Unfortunately, you didn't provide link to a specific article, and there are many of them, so I can't really see what we can do. Normally, we advise making suggestions about improving an article on the talk page of that article, as Teahouse hosts aren't responsible for changing article content (unless they want to, of course). But in this case I'm not even sure what you'd actually like to see corrected? As Toyopet appears to be synonymous with Toyota -a Japanese brand - I would certainly expect there to be innumerable dealers operating in Japan. Have you read an article that says there aren't? Maybe you've encountered some vandalism that needs correcting. Again, please supply a link to the article in question for us to check. Regards from the UK (where I'm just down the road from Toyota's main car manufacturing plant near Derby) Nick Moyes (talk) 23:32, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

MrDolomite and Malcolma This is a great opportunity for you both. I think you should try to have a look at that toyopet article or whatever and try to fix it by involving a Japanese. From a universal servant Levent Heitmeier (talk) 01:43, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

There are many redirects from Toyopet to Toyota, directly for the brand itself (Toyopet → Toyota) and for specific models (e.g. Toyopet Tiara → Toyota Corona), which indicates Toyopet is not an independent entity. And I can't see how the existence of some dealer of such global brand might make any Article about Toyopet automobile incorrect. --CiaPan (talk) 09:12, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Linking to "Year in XXXX" articles when giving years

Hi. Back when I first started editing, I was doing a bit of work on film articles. I had noticed that in some articles when there was a statement in the lead along the lines, "Professional Sweetheart is a 1933 American pre-Code romantic comedy …" was written "Professional Sweetheart is a 1933 American pre-Code romantic comedy …", where the year of the film release was linked to "xxxx in film". I thought it was a neat thing and began to do it in some of the film articles I created. However, shortly after I started doing this (and I can't remember when it was, and can't find the particular articles affected), I began to have those "xxxx in film" links removed, and I think I remember that there was a policy/guideline referenced. I also use the standardizing date tool, to harmonize the way dates appear through an article. When using that tool, not only does it standardize dmy or mdy, but it also removes links to "xxxx in yyyy" links. Another editor has taken offense that that has occurred, as at WOWI. Am I misremembering, or is there a guideline regarding this? I can't believe the tool would do this automatically unless there were a guidleline.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 23:29, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

WP:DATELINK would be the appropriate guideline. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 00:22, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks NinjaRobotPirate - I looked at that, but it's not clear that you shouldn't link like I describe above. In fact, the 4th bullet, "1787 in science might be linked from a passage discussing a particular development in the metric system which occurred in that year" might be interpreted as to endorse the practice of linking to "xxxx in yyyy", since the creation of a film might be seen as a "particular development" for that year.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 00:34, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Never mind, NinjaRobotPirate, sometimes can't see the forest for the trees. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 01:28, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

How do I create a template?

Hi. I do not know how to create a template and would love to create one, can I please be told how to. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MetroManMelbourne (talk • contribs) 00:55, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

This should help Help:Template#Creating and editing templates. Please sign your comments with four tildes ~~~~ so we know who you are. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 00:59, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

@MetroManMelbourne: See Help:Template. But if you tell us what you're trying to use it for, there may be an existing template for it. RudolfRed (talk) 01:01, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Questions need Answers

Questions: 1. What is teahouse for? 2. What you can do inside? 3. uhh...how do your edit? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Infinity80836 (talk • contribs) 01:41, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Teahouse is for asking questions about how to do Wikipedia editing stuff. Like maybe how to create a reference. As for editing, every article has sections with "edit" Clicking on that opens the section for changes. Sometimes one editor makes a change and another editor reverses/reverts it. Happens to everyone. Sometimes you are right, sometimes the other editor is right. If you feel strongly about it, proper next step is to go to Talk page of the article and provide the reasons for your changes. A good place for new editors to start is to find an article about a topic you have good knowledge about. Important to know that edits require references. Your knowing something to be true does not count. David notMD (talk) 02:16, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

@Infinity80836: If you want to learn about how to write good articles, I recommend our training programme at The Wikipedia Adventure. And of course if you have further questions, you can always come back to the Teahouse and ask - I do.--Gronk Oz (talk) 03:51, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Success

What factors has made Wikipedia the greatest encyclopedia ever created in human history?

97.90.47.253 (talk) 03:48, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

@97.90.47.253: Editors like you! --Gronk Oz (talk) 03:53, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

You may like to read this. Project:Why Wikipedia is so great. – Ammarpad (talk) 07:13, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

It isn't! Or rather, it depends on your definition of "greatest". It is the largest, certainly. --bonadea contributions talk 07:24, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

What's up with this article?

What's up with this article? If the usage of "bibliography" is the same as what I'm used to hearing, these are either sources to the painter linked in the article or some other kind of list. Clovermoss (talk) 03:56, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

It appears to be a list of books about Artemisia Gentileschi. (Side note: looks like this sort of page is more commonly titled "Bibliography of" than "Bibliography on".) Eman235/talk 07:23, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Worth reading is Wikipedia:Lists. Lists are a specific and valid type of Wikipedia article. Lists are also appropriate in many cases as sections within general articles. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:53, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

@Cullen328:@Eman235: Thank you. I've never seen an article like that before, so I thought I'd ask. :) To clarfy, I've seen lists before, just not bibliography articles. Still, Wikipedia:Lists looks interesting. Clovermoss (talk) 15:04, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Help me, please

Hello everybody. Please help me to transfer this Draft page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Eldaniz_Mammadov) into the Article page... I can't do it. Sorry. Thank you in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Viki-BSU (talk • contribs) 10:37, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Viki-BSU welcome to the Teahouse. I'm afraid it would be a very bad idea to move Draft:Eldaniz Mammadov into the main part of Wikipedia at this time. Notwithstanding the completely wrong use of capital letters in headings and inline hyperlinks to external pages in the body of the article, the page itself fails to explain why this part-time librarian with a PhD is worthy of an article on this encyclopaedia. LinkedIn maybe, but not here. Please read this policy which explains the essential criterion of "Notability" which must be reached if an article is to go into, or remain in, the main part of Wikipedia. If you can make the article demonstrate his notability, we'll be glad to help you. Generally, we recommend that new editors use the Articles for Creation process to submit drafts for review. Please sign all future posts with four tildes (~~~~) right at the very end of your post so we know who is saying what. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 12:16, 6 April 2019 (UTC)    

Coral Restoration Foundation article - questions regarding declination by Liance

Hello,

My question is: Would my Coral Restoration Foundation stub article be acceptable if I merely upgrade the references to an acceptable level. Or, do I need to upgrade the article in additional ways? If so, what more needs to be done?

Thanks!

FLkeyseditor (talk) 12:19, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

The first thing you need to do is to remove the wording copied from material previously published elsewhere. Copyright violation is not permitted, so you need to use your own words. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:38, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hi FLkeyseditor. If you're asking about User:FLkeyseditor/sandbox, then you might want to take a look at Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not here to tell the world about your noble cause and Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) for reference. The first page is just an essay, but it might contain some insights into writing article about organizations like the Coral Restoration Foundation. The second, however, is basically going to determine whether the draft you're writing is ultimately going to be accepted by an AfC reviewer, even as a stub. Only subjects deemed to be Wikipedia:Notable are generally deemed appropriate to have an article written about them and exceptions to this aren't really made for WP:STUBs. So, your mission if you should choose to accept it is to find significant coverage in reliable sources which show that the organization at least meets relevant Wikipedia notability guidelines. Once you think you've found them, then look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Help:Referencing for beginners for some general tips on how to write an article and add citations to an article. -- Marchjuly (talk) 12:47, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

@FLkeyseditor: I think it would be far, far better to create a new section on "Conservation action" in the article on Florida Reef. In fact, I'm actually quite stunned how paltry the mention of conservation is in that article. Your draft is nowhere near suitable as a standalone article at this time, and you would need more sources to meet Notability criteria, but it would be quite OK to include mention of conservation work or link to published biodiversity action plans etc, as per the Washington Post article you cited. Thus, a link to the CRF would be OK, but it must be non-promotional and based only on what reliable sources describe the CRF and NGOs and government agencies are doing, rather than just regurgitate self-published statements of conservation priorities. Hope this helps. If in doubt what to do, you could post a proposal on the talk page on the Florida Reef article although I should declare that I have just posted a suggestion to that effect on its talk page already. Nick Moyes (talk) 14:18, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Requesting an edit on the special page User group rights

Hi, I found some duplicate data on this page: |User group rights.
The group "Autoconfirmed users" is the same as the group "Confirmed users".
They both have the same content, and I don't know how to edit that page, so I was wondering if someone could do something about it, Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by M-ahmadi1989 (talk • contribs) 12:57, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Though the rights are effectively the same, the groups are not the same. Members can be added manually to the group "Confirmed users". Try following the links from the "Group" column to WP:CONFIRM. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:06, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

In addition to the answer above, the page is generated automatically by the software according to how the groups are defined, so it cannot be edited. – Ammarpad (talk) 15:50, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

To add a question, please complete the Subject line, then explain your question in the box beneath it

Let's say you wan't to add the text (Look at source code) : for some random reason. (For you guys it's probably explaining how to bold an apostrophe. Oh. Nevermind, just look at source code.)

Or maybe this (again, see source code) :

42This user has made over 42 edits.

How do you add it without Wikipedia automatically ______. (I don't know the word, but you get the point. Hopefully.)

I just previewed this and it looks... un-neat?  AltoStev  ^Talk 15:53, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

@AltoStev: Welcome. I'm really struggling to understand what you're asking here. Could you make an old man very happy - and try again, please? Nick Moyes (talk) 16:35, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes: How do you show text without Wikipedia changing it? Like showing 2 apostrophes without it bolding, or showing only the text of a template or code without the template or code being run.  AltoStev  ^Talk 16:40, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

AltoStev I think you're asking how to put something into quotes without turning it into bold/italics due to wikimarkup? If you use two single apostrophes, you'll get italics. Three single apostrophes will give you bold. If you want quotation marks, you have to use (on my mac keyboard) shift-apostrophe. Is that your question, or am I completely missing it? --valereee (talk) 16:51, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

AltoStev, to show the template or code without running the template/code, use <nowiki>text here</nowiki> and vice versa -- again, is that what you're asking? --valereee (talk) 16:55, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Yes, thank you!  AltoStev  ^Talk 16:58, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Evald Kampus

I do need your help with editing. My submission summarizes some scholarly publications by Evald Kampus, as printed in Thalia Germanica research society proceedings. These are important contributions in German; on the Estonian Vikipedia they are not included.

My contribution is simply a list of articles as in Thalia Germanica with precise bibliography.

Please help me to edit my submission to a standard where it will be accepted by Wikipedia.

from Juta KitchingJuta Kitching (talk) 17:07, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Juta Kitching. You haven't made any edits before this on English Wikipedia. Are you talking about creating an article on es-wiki? If so, I'm afraid we can't really help you here: each Wikipedia is a separate project with its own rules and standards. You'll need to ask at es-wiki. --ColinFine (talk) 17:42, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello Juta Kitching. I think you're referring to et:Evald Kampus. Are you planning to translate the article into English? To list his publications in a bibliography, I would use the {{cite journal}} template. Here's an example: * {{cite journal |last1=Kampus |first1=Evald |title=Das Schultheater in Tartu im XVI. - XVII. Jahrhundert. Von den Beziehungen der Universität Tartu (Dorpat) zum Theater in den Jahren 1803-1812. |date=1997 |volume=I |series=Thalia Germanica |publisher=Peter Lang |issn=1433-7592}}, which renders as

• Kampus, Evald (1997). "Das Schultheater in Tartu im XVI. - XVII. Jahrhundert. Von den Beziehungen der Universität Tartu (Dorpat) zum Theater in den Jahren 1803-1812". Thalia Germanica. I. Peter Lang. ISSN 1433-7592. {{cite journal}}: Cite journal requires |journal= (help)

Good luck, Vexations (talk) 17:55, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Propose merge again

Hi! A merge for this article has been proposed in the past for this article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:IPXE), but no consensus was reached. It seemed that most users were actually in favor of the merge. Would it be appropriate to propose the merge again now it is a few years later? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Initramfs (talk • contribs) 17:56, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Seriously bad sign, two projects not agreeing on who forked what when, sounds like FFmpeg and what's-its-name. If that situation changed, sure, try it again, four years later could make sense. –84.46.52.28 (talk) 02:16, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

New Article Creation

Hello,

I have created one draft article - pending a 2nd review. I recently joined a group and am working on a 2nd article. The question is can I directly post the article... or do I need to go thru the review process? Seems like the first article has gotten a bit bogged down in the process and I don't fully understand the protocol to know if I should or can directly post my new article. Thank you for any suggestions or advice to help me with how to proceed with this 2nd article. LorriBrown (talk) 18:24, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, LorriBrown. The Articles for Creation review process is optional for autoconfirmed editors, and you have that status. You can move your draft User:LorriBrown/Joan Almond to the main space if you want. I suggest expanding it a bit and copyediting it carefully first. You have made a good start. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:31, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it I greatly appreciate your reply. I'll try to expand and polish it before making it public.LorriBrown (talk) 20:47, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Notability guideline for books

I think that Shattered (Walters novel) now meets the notability guideline for books. Is it okay to remove that portion of the template? Clovermoss (talk) 18:43, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

@Clovermoss: Please create proper references, date=, work=, author=, etc., here's what I did in 10+2 steps: Special:Diff/891253478/891300807 + Special:Diff/878662058/891301105. In theory a non-free fair use cover image could be added to the infobox, or requested in one of the two WikiProject templates on the talk page (some project templates support a |needs-image=yes parameter, others don't.)
For the notability I cheated, "October 2013" is old enough to be shot after a few improvements, no matter what it's about: Folks can re-insert it with the old date if they think that the issue wasn't addressed. Clearly three references (not counting one self-published source) is the absolute minimum, the page might still end up on AfD as "not notable". –84.46.52.28 (talk) 01:40, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

@84.46.52.28: I wasn't aware that there was anything wrong with my references. Thanks for fixing mine and the pre-existing one and the wikilink in the article. As for the plot summary, I'm not quite sure the template about the plot should be removed. I think that there's a guideline about writing fictional characters/plots? I'll try to look at the Wikipedia editor navigation for it. The template was also added soon after the article was created - when it didn't have much to other than plot - so it could have more to do with that. Clovermoss (talk) 01:56, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Edit conflict, maybe I answered your question above. –84.46.52.28 (talk) 02:06, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

@84.46.52.28: Thanks for your help. Also, I think should probably ask this question (I'm not sure if others have already asked it): have you considered creating an account? It's fine to keep editing with your IP address if that's what you want to do, but there are benefits associated with having an account. Whether or not you do, thanks for taking the time to help and try to explain things to me. Clovermoss (talk) 02:29, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Pinging IPs doesn't work, so there are in fact some disadvantages of not logging in, e.g., IPs can't use the "thanks"-feature. Omniplex randomized their password in June 2006, that's a dead account, but at least they "invented" Template:! (now a magic word) before leaving.
Be..anyone (created 2011) had some obscure reason to stop logging-in three years ago (but will log-in for one commons upload session soon.) The real reason was as simple as "there's no ex in ex-WikiHolic":
IPs have no watch-lists, and on enwiki IPs can do almost anything (create drafts, suggest redirects, merge articles, archive talk pages, and so on) with some minor obstacles, only "upload" doesn't work. –84.46.52.28 (talk) 03:09, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Editting

How to edit and add information an article without vandalizing or plagiarizing the source of the given article?BookWorm767 (talk) 1:45, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, BookWorm767. It is easy to avoid vandalism. Do nothing to damage the encyclopedia and edit only to improve the encyclopedia. As for plagiarism, write new content in your own words, summarizing but not copying the cited sources. Please read Wikipedia:Plagiarism for more guidance. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:21, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Land-Grant Colleges

I hope that someone can read "College Community, and Librarianship: Women-Librarians at the Western landgrant Colleges" in the book Reclaiming The American Library Past: Writing the Women In, edited by Suzanne Hildenbrand (see pp: 221-249) and then add to the Wikipedia page about land-grant colleges to say how there is a great deal of cross influence between these colleges and American librarianship at a time when many women entered the field of library science.

refer to Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrill_Land-Grant_Acts — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.215.240.116 (talk) 22:17, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello there, IP editor. Welcome to the Teahouse, and thanks for coming over with your suggestion. You know, I think you'd be better off placing that comment on the talk page of the article itself so that someone with an interest in the topic might pick up on it. Over here at the Teahouse we're more about helping with the practicalities of editing, rather than researching changes to individual articles. That said, I do happen to know one particular editor who might be very interested in your suggestion, so I'm going to ping Megalibrarygirl, as I think this could be right up her street. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 00:01, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

How often do Hong Kong newspapers cover Canadian businesses customer service?

The South China Morning Post, a Hong Kong newspaper, is cited three times in the CIK Telecom article. I want to make sure it's a reliable source since it's a good portion of the references for the article. It seems somewhat strange to me that a newspaper, even an international one, would cover a Canadian buisnesses' customer service. Clovermoss (talk) 22:32, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

It's possible that they just have really impressive international coverage. I just want to know what other editors think. Clovermoss (talk) 23:31, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello again, Clovermoss. It is not strange at all. CIK Telecom is a company founded by Canadian Chinese entrepreneurs and has concentrated its multilingual marketing on ethnic communities, especially Chinese communities. As well as operating in Canada, it operates in China, Vietnam and India. This is exactly the type of business that the South China Morning Post, a very famous English language newspaper in Hong Kong, covers on a daily basis. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:24, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

@Cullen328: Okay, that's awesome! I wish my local newspaper did better international coverage... most of it is based on events in the United States. When we do we get news from other countries, it's usually because something really bad happened. Clovermoss (talk) 01:33, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

"Music Mix" Redirects to "Windows Live Messenger"?

I just wanted to let someone know that a search for "Music Mix" redirects to an article titled "Windows Live Messenger." This doesn't seem quite right. The disambiguation page for "mix" lists multiple computer-related topics, but none which bring the music aspect into the fold. I'm thinking that "Music Mix" should redirect to the article Audio mixing (recorded music) instead, but I don't know how to fix it. If someone who knows more than me agrees, would it be possible for you to fix it or walk me through what to do? Thanks! – Kekki1978 talk 01:34, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Nevermind, I was able to make the change. – Kekki1978 talk 01:39, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your visit to the Teahouse, anyway. Best Regards, Barbara ✐✉ 19:44, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Unreasonable reverts

On 7 April 2019, i did two edits here Special:diff/891304352 and here Special:diff/891305604. Firstly, i will be justifying my edits.

The first one is intended to correct the english that is provided in the Gameplay section of the article. In the game, Aiden Pearce is a hacker who uses his smartphone to steal the money from others bank. But in the article, it was written that he empties others bank using his phone. Stealth is a different thing and emptying is different. He doesn't withdraws and throws the money out of the bank account, he steals it so the proposed form of english can be seen as far more appropriate. And about the second i want to say that "solving of puzzles" can mean really different things at the same time but if we explain it furthur as i have done in my second edit, then the readers can get more aware of what the game actually asks you to do and maintains WP:NPOV.

Now coming onto the main topic, an user named Cognissonance reverted both of my edits here Special:diff/891324688 and in the edit summary said "Mediocre". I'm not as much intelligent as these guys so i don't understand the reason behind my edits being rejected. And in fact, there is no reason to reject my edit (because there is no provision for reverting constructive minor edits). Can someone please tell him that Wikipedia is not the place for taking out your frustation. From a universal servant Levent Heitmeier (talk) 07:09, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Levent Heitmeier. Please read WP:BRD. This is how Wikipedia works. You made some edits that you thought were improvements. Cognissonance thought they weren't, and undid them. Your next step is either to let it go, or to engage with that editor (either on the articles' talk pages, or on their user talk page) to try to reach consensus, not to appeal over that editor's head for somebody to "tell him" anything. Your opinion is of no greater weight - and no lesser weight - than any other editor. --ColinFine (talk) 08:13, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

While having more Wikipedia experience is not a guarantee that an editor's edit is correct, be aware that Cognissonance has made more than 8,000 edits, including raising many video game articles to Good Article status. You can disagree with other editors, but a statement like "Can someone please tell him that Wikipedia is not the place for taking out your frustation." is not appropriate, in that it attacks the editor, not the edit. David notMD (talk) 10:00, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

How do I ask for a claim in an article to be reviewed?

Hi, On the Wikipedia page for Hydrogen, in the first paragraph, it says "Its monatomic form (H) is the most abundant chemical substance in the Universe, constituting roughly 75% of all baryonic mass.[7][note 1]". I don't seen where it specifies `monatomic`. Is there a tag that says "Hey, can an expert verify this and maybe provide a proper citation for it"? I tried googling it myself with no luck.

Sincerely, Itchyjunk (talk) 09:34, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Itchyjunk! may be what you're after, you write it {{dubious}}, preferably comment on the talkpage too. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:47, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

The Wikilink to monatomic has the same statement "Monatomic hydrogen comprises about 75% of the elemental mass of the universe." with a reference. If I reach back to dim memory of college physics, I think the point made is that inside stars the temperature is hot enough that hydrogen is in a monatomic state rather than as H₂ David notMD (talk) 09:51, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

People are talking at Talk:Hydrogen#Monatomic?. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:55, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Btw, that reference seems to have linkrotted slightly. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:59, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi, thank you very much. I mentioned my logic on the talk page. I will avoid editing the wikipage itself as there is no hurry and someone can change it if needed. In general, I generously should use the {{dubious}}. For example, I sometimes see super old papers being cited which have been challenged in modern time. Would that be a good use? And is it always okay to ask questions about an article on it's talk page? Thanks, Itchyjunk (talk) 10:15, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

I defer to you and GGS (again, astrophysics NOT my area of expertise). In general, Talk page of articles are the right place to ask questions, as watchers of those articles have an interest. Making a change to the article AND a comment at Talk is a good way to stimulate a debate rather than a simple revert, but is not required. Standard advice is make the change (BE BOLD), and if reverted, then discuss. David notMD (talk) 10:22, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Israeli Articles

Why are most of Israeli, Arab, and Palestinian issues and conflict Articles extended protected ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BookWorm767 (talk • contribs) 10:54, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

I believe because of a past history of edit warring and POV pushing. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 10:56, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi BookWorm767. See WP:ARBPIA3#500/30 for the decision. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:04, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Help me

The amount of articles that could have mistakes is overwhelming. I need a guide. Help me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThePRoGaMErGD (talk • contribs) 12:22, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

@ThePRoGaMErGD: Welcome to the Teahouse. Yes, there are over 5.8 million articles which could have mistakes in them! We have various tools for fixing them, or categorising them into groups which need attention of one sort or another. See Wikipedia:Community portal for one place to find articles needing work. As a newcomer here, you might like to try The Wikipedia Adventure to help you get a feel of how things work. Let us know if there are specific areas of improvement that interest you, and we'll do our best to help you further. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 12:45, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

You have to do what we have to do and correct them one by one. One of the simplest ways to find spelling mistakes is to look for the wavy red line under a word. That means the word is spelled wrong. Sometimes I pick a random article to read and 'fix' it. I also patrol a page looking for mistakes by listening to an article. When you hear a mistake, you can fix it that way. I use a browser app to read articles to me. I catch mistakes better by hearing them. Thanks for your Teahouse visit. Best Regards, Barbara ✐✉ 19:42, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Follow-up to Kashmir Observer

This is its page https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kashmir_Observer.jpg source epaper.kashmirobserver.net

here i am adding some of the references for the page

Sajjad Haider is the publisher and editor-in-chief of the Kashmir Observer.

https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/wiki/Kashmir_Observer.htm

REFERENCE LINKS

• https://scroll.in/author/12581
• https://www.exchange4media.com/industry-briefing-news/kashmir-observer-to-launch-business-supplement-47494.html
• https://rsf.org/en/news/discriminatory-use-official-advertising-kashmir
• https://indianexpress.com/article/india/kashmir-newspapers-publish-blank-front-pages-to-protest-govts-decision-to-stop-ads-to-two-dailies-5619019/
• https://cpj.org/tags/kashmir-observer
• https://www.newslaundry.com/2016/07/11/kashmirunrest-the-difference-in-what-delhi-and-kashmiri-media-saw
• https://www.newslaundry.com/2018/06/19/kashmir-woke-up-to-blank-editorials-in-newspapers-today-in-memory-of-shujaatbukhari

EXTERNAL LINKS

https://kashmirobserver.net/ https://khyenchyen.net/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sufi519 (talk • contribs) 13:10, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Sufi519. This is not the right place to post these links. Please take them to the article, or its talk page. --ColinFine (talk) 22:02, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

@ColinFine: I think the key point here is that the page on Kashmir Observer has been deleted and, unfortunately, the OP had not helped themselves by apparently recreating the article in a very promotional manner. Having said that, I have looked around online, and am now minded to believe there could be a case for having an article on it, and that WP:REFUND might apply. @Sufi519: I would support you in this, but right now my own free time is very limited. If you are willing to wait a few weeks, I would lend my support to you, as I feel the Kashmir Observer has been referenced a number of times by major news outlines regarding the unjustified detentions of its journalists. I could argue that BBC New Asia (here) reports on the Kashmir Observer; with mentions in The Guardian (here) as well as here. All these mentions are very brief, so it might be argued that WP:NCORP hasn't been met. I might counter by saying that a state-sponsored crackdown on the free press, and the rise of independent news outlets might make it impossible at this time for them to meet the notability standards of western corporations, but that nevertheless they are notable (as far as the state is concerned, but not necessarily in Wikipedia's eyes) in that the state appears to be cracking down firmly on their journalistic freedoms. An alternative might be an article (if one doesn't already exist) on Kashmir press and media, which could cover the media in general and persecution of journalists from its many independent news outlets, based on articles, like this and this and this. But it would have to be a well drafted and well-referenced piece which, unfortunately is well outside my own experience. Nick Moyes (talk) 23:11, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

How to change url of a wikipedia article page?

As per title, I wish to change the url of a article I'm working on at the moment.

The following is the article in question:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mina_(Twice)

It is still in draft stage at the moment. The new url I prefer would be:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Myoui_Mina or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myoui_Mina

However, whenever I put the url "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myoui_Mina" in my browser, I'm redirected to Twice main wiki page instead...

I have several reasons of not wanting the "twice" name to appear in the url. First of all, this is her own wikipedia article. It talks not only about her affiliations with Twice, but her biography. Secondly, she can't be a member of twice forever. Once she quits twice or twice disbands in future, it's be awkward to still associate the twice name with her when she's having life after Twice, for instance her solo career. Another reason being, her other partners in twice did not have the name "twice" in the url.

Thanks in advance, my friends. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PredatorAssassin (talk • contribs) 14:01, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

@PredatorAssassin: Welcome to the Teahouse. From your draft I don't see anything which makes Myoui Mina stand out at this point in time as notable (per WP:NMUSIC) in her own right. Until she does, the redirect from Myoui_Mina to Twice (group) should stand. This would be exactly the same rationale as happened for Jungkook who, until he recently produced some solo singles, was purely and simply one member of BTS, which was notable in its own right. His page redirected to BTS, and it was only a few months ago that he got an article of his own, despite being an incredibly well known figure. My suggestion to you is that you move the contents of your draft back into your sandbox where it can stay and be worked on for as long as you like - years even. Then, later, when Mina goes off to pursue her solo career and becomes 'notable' in her own right, you can discuss on the band's talk page the proposal to convert the Myoui_Mina page back from a 'redirect' to a dedicated page just about her. On the theoretical point about naming, you don't have to worry about that, as when a draft is submitted for review, the reviewer will name the article appropriately (though one can always leave them a note suggesting what the best title would be). Sorry to disappoint you. And please remember to sign every talk page post with four keyboard tilde characters right at the end (like this: ~~~~). Your three-years-too-late post at Talk:Myoui Mina really needed a name and datestamp which the four tildes would have automatically added, making it clear you had rather missed the boat on that particular merge proposal back in 2016 Nick Moyes (talk) 16:15, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Article

When can i write article in wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4055:60D:716B:5081:F839:74D6:776C (talk) 14:28, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello, IP editor. Welcome to the Teahouse. You can write one straight away, if you wish, and providing it's properly referenced and on a notable topic. The place start work on an article is at Articles for Creation. You might also wish to read Wikipedia:Your First Article. But please be aware that creating a new page from scratch, and have it meeting all our requirements, really is the hardest thing to do here, and especially so for a brand new editor. We always advise people to start slowly and learn the basics of editing this encyclopaedia by making small changes to existing articles first. Do try The Wikipedia Adventure which is a fun way to understand how things work here. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 14:50, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

I was told that there is a three day waiting period before a new editor can add content. Thanks for your Teahouse visit. Best Regards, Barbara ✐✉ 19:36, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

That's for moving your article to main space. You can start now in draft space, or in your sandbox, or use the Wikipedia:Article_wizard. Dbfirs 20:13, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Publishing a French Wikipedia page on English Wikipedia

I would appreciate your help in publishing the following French Wikipedia page on English Wikipedia: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertille_de_Baudinière . Once I have translated the article, what should be my first step? Thanks very much, Arthur Perkins — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brett rider (talk • contribs) 16:35, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Brett rider. Please read Wikipedia:Translation, paying special attention to the requirement for proper attribution. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 19:22, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Infoboxes

Hi! I'm somewhat new to Wikipedia, and I've got a question about infoboxes.

How do you orient them on a page? For example, on this article, I want to orient the infoboxes so that the article is more visually pleasing (scroll to bottom to see them).

–Adamilo (talk) 21:30, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi Adamilo, welcome to the Teahouse. What do you want to change? Wikipedia positions infoboxes floating to the right. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:15, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

UnitedMasters Stub

I've taken it upon myself to expand this stub on UnitedMasters and correct the maintenance template that is at the top of the article. Would someone be able to review my edits that I've made and maybe give me some pointers in the right direction? Hope the edits I made are okay. Grimothy29 (talk) 00:03, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

I am looking for help...

I am looking for help on to edit a business page for a company that I work for on their behalf

The wiki page is RMG Networks.

Thank you in advance,

Ryan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryanflaherty42 (talk • contribs) 00:43, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

@Ryanflaherty42: Welcome to Wikipedia. First, read WP:PAID, for the requirements for paid editors. Then you can try the Tutorial and the Wikipedia Adventure interactive learning. If you have any specific questions, please come back and let us know. RudolfRed (talk) 00:59, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

So far, looks like you are on the correct path. Your User page has a box that declares COI, when the right one is PAID. The article's Talk page identifies you as PAID. Given paid relationship, the way do do it is to create a new section at the article's talk, with your proposed changes to content. If all goes well, a non-affiliated editor will transfer the new content - or not if not. David notMD (talk) 02:14, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Moving my first article into publication

I have decided to build Wikipedia's entries on notable keynote speakers and subject matter experts. I have edited a number of entries successfully but do not know how to move my first new subject entry into publication from it's draft Draft:Mark_Bowden_(body_language_expert). Please, could I get some advice? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keynotespeakers (talk • contribs) 00:57, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Why so many moths on Wikipedia?

This was just something I noticed when using the random article function. I've even made a little game out of it. I'll press random until I get a page of a moth species. It seems like 1/100 or so pages are of moths. Is there a reason for this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Froguy1126 (talk • contribs) 04:10, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Because the lepidopterans are staggeringly diverse and constitute roughly 10% of all described species of organism. Your complaint is with evolution rather than with Wikipedia. ‑ Iridescent 06:53, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Je ne peux pas télécharger mes propres photos sur un article que je viens de créer

Bonjour, Je redémarre Wikipedia après 9 ans d'interruption... J'ai dû recréer un compte pour cela avec le même identifiant mais un mot de passe nouveau (du coup j'ai deux pages avec mon identifiant N.Cayla

J'ai pu sans problème compléter un article et en écrire un nouveau avec des photos mais sur celui que j'essaye d'améliorer actuellement, je ne parviens pas à télécharger les photos alors qu'elles sont de moi. Est-ce qu'il faut que les photos soient natives de l'appareil photo donc en haute résolution ou bien on peut les retravailler ? Merci de votre aide. — Preceding unsigned comment added by N.Cayla (talk • contribs) 06:24, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Rough translation from French:

I can not upload my own photos on an article I just created
Hello, I restart Wikipedia after 9 years of interruption ... I had to recreate an account for that with the same identifier but a new password (so I have two pages with my ID N.Cayla

I could easily complete an article and write a new one with photos but on the one I'm trying to improve now, I can not download the photos while they are mine. Should the photos be native to the camera so in high resolution or we can rework them? Thank you for your help.
(Translated by Google, pasted here by CiaPan (talk))

Hi N.Cayla. Since the Teahouse is basically for asking questions about editing English Wikipedia, it would be easier for one of the hosts to help you if you asked your question in English. While there are probably some hosts who understand French (I think that's the language you're using), someone else might have the same or a similar question to yours and whatever answers you receive might benefit such people as well.

Now, if you're question has something to do with Draft:Le géoparc des dinosaures du pays de Hateg, then it would also be helpful if that draft was written in English. English Wikipedia is only for articles written in English; so if, by chance, you're working on a draft for an article which you would like added to French Wikipedia, then you'd probably be better off working on it at French Wikipedia or asking for help at fr:Wikipédia:Forum des nouveaux. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:33, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: Looks like N.Cayla copied the article here from fr-wiki (compare Draft:Le géoparc des dinosaures du pays de Hateg to fr:Géoparc des dinosaures du pays de Hațeg). Possibly they meant it to be translated to English, but that's just my guess. --CiaPan (talk) 06:51, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for that CiaPan. @N.Cayla: If that's what you're trying to do, then you need to read Wikipedia:Translation. It's OK to translate articles from other language Wikipedias to English Wikipedia, but it's important that you understand that each language Wikipedia has its own policies and guidelines; so, what might be acceptable as an article on French Wikipedia might not be acceptable on English Wikipedia. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:20, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Bonjour N.Cayla. Vous avez reussi de télécharger à Wikimedia Commons quelques images comme c:File:Magyarosaurus Dacus .jpg et c:File:Maison des volcans du Géoparc des dinosaures du pays de Hateg.jpg. Qu'est-ce qui s'agit du problême avec cet article? --ColinFine (talk) 08:50, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

How to move a page one created in the sandbox...

I just made sort of a minor mistake and have created the User:Study the Great Nation i did not want to create. I after created the page Study the Great Nation, but the other page still exists...Is there a possibility to delete it or is there an other solution? Best regards, Lean Anael (talk) 08:55, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Deleted. If it happens in future, then provided you're the only person who's edited a page then putting {{G7}} at the top of it will flag it for deletion. ‑ Iridescent 09:16, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I feel much better now. The G7 trick I will keep in mind. Lean Anael (talk) 09:27, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Need Help creating a wiki link about myself

Hello everyone. I have never wrote anything on wiki in my hole life and was looking for someone to help create a page about me. I need to have a wiki link to get astrotheme to put my birth chart onto the web. I really wanted to be the 55,555 person to become a star on astrotheme.

So now I will write down some stuff and maybe someone can help. I would be very great full if someone helped

Jonathan Paul Grenard was born 11-25-1985 at 7:33 PM in Canon City Colorado USA. After high school he got a job as an electrician and started working in Pueblo Colorado. Jonathan bought a house in 2008 and wanted to build a greenhouse with an aquaponics system to grow food. He also spent time studying astrology amongst other projects. In 2017 he sold his home to become a traveling electrician and found Joy in running around and giving triple high fives to people around town.

There is so much to say I barely know how to start — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1014:B107:5905:207E:318C:EEA6:BAB2 (talk) 09:20, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for this. Needed to laugh today!

Huggle

Hi greetings, when logging in to huggle which one should be used to login with normal username and password-Bot password or Legacy?--PATH SLOPU 09:40, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Sidebar references

Hi there - How do you add sidebar references to entries (such as biographies), please? Not a coder so don't really know about how to use html for that.

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cattyjoked19 (talk • contribs) 09:46, 8 April 2019 (UTC)