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Non-notable company. Veinor (ヴエノル^(talk)) 22:40, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fails to assert notability scope_creep 23:00, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete As per Veinor and Scope creep, not notable. Kind Regards - Heligoland | Talk | Contribs 23:35, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - NN. Spawn Man 01:00, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree -- do not deleteThe company is the first of its kind. While people like Edward Tufte and Richard Saul Wurman have been touting information design as a discipline, XPLANE was the first company to put a stake in the ground as a global information design/information graphics provider. The fact that such a tiny company commands 30 of the Fortune 500 as clients within such a short period speaks for itself. What are the criteria for a company to be notable?

I read the Wikipedia deletion policy and found no criteria based on "notability." The criteria I saw there were: Verifiability, copyright, accuracy, objectivity. I also read "Articles and text which are capable of meeting these should usually be remedied by editing" as opposed to deletion.

If anyone has anything to add to the article other than a subjective opinion of its notability I suggest you do so. Also, if anything in the article is not objective, inaccurate, or in violation of copyright, you are free to correct it. Otherwise please withdraw your "consideration for deletion."

Please forgive me if I am violating protocol, I am new to this. I am the founder and CEO of XPLANE and did not create this page. However I made a minor edit to it within the last week (link to my blog), and suddenly the article which had been there since 2004 was suddenly marked for deletion for no apparent reason. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dgray_xplane — Dgray_xplane (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Notable - I enjoy David Gray's blog Communication Nationand his company is both notable and worthy of inclusion in wikipedia. --Guy Bjerke 05:56, 21 November 2006 (UTC)— Guy Bjerke (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.[reply]

Keep - I'd like to further add the impact that XPLANE has had on the blogosphere and on progressing ideas about leadership and change. The visual representation of concepts that would otherwise have tough acceptance are often explained in simple and coherent diagrams and other visual representations. This is rare and exceptional in the field of consulting and it helps the communication process a great deal. Removing XPLANE's entry would be a mistake. Doing more to increase XPLANE's footprint in wikiland would be a good thing. Keeping it is an obvious, and educated choice. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TobyGetsch— Toby Getsch (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Keep - It seems that 'notability' is being used in a POV sense to delete something which could be built upon to better explain methodologies used. It is a notable first company. --TaranRampersad 07:15, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Over the ten years I have worked in the design field, I have observed that XPLANE has made an notable impact on our industry. Their work for several Fortune 500 organizations has increased the visibility of visual thinking best-practices and their prominent impact on the magazine "Business 2.0" has given them a widespread audience (MDS reports the 2003 circulation of Business 2.0 to be 557,093). Aaron Gerdes 07:39, 21 November 2006 (UTC)— Aaron Gerdes (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.[reply]

Comment: None of User:Dgray_xplane, User:Guy Bjerke, User:Tobygetsch or User:Aaron Gerdes have made any significant contributions to Wikipedia other than to this article and its AfD. --Pak21 09:29, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: no real sign of notability. Prepared to reconsider if citations from reliable sources to show this company meets WP:CORP are added. Cheers --Pak21 09:29, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. The founder and CEO of XPlane has placed a message on his blog asking for people to save it see [1]

We need a newbies message but I can't remember what it is. I can advise that the closing admin may well disregard comments by people with few edits to their credits. What is needed is verification from reliable sources. Aaron Gerdes above has highlighted one such but it needs more preferably in the article. Capitalistroadster 09:33, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Does not appear to meet WP:CORP. Movementarian (Talk) 09:42, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Outside of Wikipedia, XPLANE is a thriving business that's helped tons of people better understand complex digital information. Pick up any of the last two dozen Business 2.0 magazines and you'll see what they've contributed to the lexicon. Dave and his team have been behind some amazing works to better communication over all, by using visual thinking to put their points across. I'm not sure the "rules" of Wikipedia, but it seems silly to delete something just because the contributor hasn't been toiling away on the rest of the entries. Has Rene Descartes been updating the Spider-Man page? -- Chris Brogan...
- Comment. Why not take the time to learn the guidlines for inclusion? For instance read through WP:CORP to see what is generally accepted criteria for listing business. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. I haven't advocated deletion based on who has edited the article, but on the contents of the article based on previously established and generally accpted guidelines. Movementarian (Talk) 11:42, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - From reviewing in detail the relevant materials related to qualification for inclusion I would suggest XPlane more than qualifies for inclusion in Wikipedia. Within it's industry it's widely regarded as not just a leader but a unique entity that has essentially defined the space. Their work appears in numerous respected publications such as Business 2.0. While not broadly "notable" as an organization within the information design community they are as notable as it gets and have made an immense contribution to it's industry. - RyanColemanYYZ 14:46, 21 November 2006 (UTC) — RyanColemanYYZ (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.[reply]
Keep. Not only is XPLANE obviously a big player in its field, but the company's contribution also extends beyond the commercial sphere. Their work is an inspiration to anyone and everyone. I stand in awe of their achievement, yet my experience with the CEO Dave Gray is that of a very approachable person, who will allways find time for others despite his busy schedule. XPLANE is a company about communication, who practice what they preach, and not just for a dollar. Their work has inspired me personally in many ways, on a practical and communication level. XPLANE not only contributs in a commercial sense, but to communication as a whole. When a company can reach far beyond their clients, to the far corners of the globe, and in a benificial way, that IS noteworthy. Communication is about just that, and not about protocoll for protocoll's sake. The real question about the wiki entry is about noteworthyness. There is no doubt in my mind, that XPLANE is.Judyofthewoods 15:13, 21 November 2006 (UTC)— Judyofthewoods (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.[reply]

XPLANE's work has been published in Discover Magazine, Time magazine, Business 2.0, and Harper's. XPLANE has also illustrated several books, including "Informal Learning" by Jay Cross (inventor of the term "e-learning" and Network Security Illustrated, published by McGraw Hill. XPLANE diagrams have been also featured in textbooks on e-Commerce.

Mentioned in: Information Architecture for the World Wide Web, Second Edition published by O'Reilly Index: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/infotecture2/inx.html

External references to XPLANE: - Article about XPLANE in the Toronto Globe and Mail: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060718.wwise-words0718/BNStory/specialSmallBusiness/home - Contenu blog: XPLANE discussed in relation to comics in business: http://www.contenu.nu/nublog/archive/1008 - Mention in Prentice Hall's guide to e-commerce and e-business: http://www.prenhall.com/ebiz/ch09.html - Hoover's fact sheet on XPLANE: http://www.hoovers.com/xplane/--ID__116806--/free-co-factsheet.xhtml - Article: Searching for Excellence: Highlights from the First 5 Years of Online Journalism XPLANE blog listed as number 44: http://www.jeremycaplan.com/WebJournalism.htm - Founder Dave Gray interviewed in LineZine, an online magazine about innovation in e-learning: http://www.linezine.com/3.1/features/dgkscldf.htm - Podcast interview conducted by J. Wynia: http://www.glasstoobig.com/wordpress/2006/08/10/episode-7-dave-gray-ceo-of-xplane/ - epinions: Listes as one of the "pros" for Business 2.0 magazine: http://www.epinions.com/mags-review-FC5-9A3BCCF-3823AEA9-prod1 - Learning 2006: XPLANE graphics exhibited in a gallery of "exemplary learning graphics": http://www.learning2006.com/gallery/ - Founder Dave Gray interviewed by Sociable Media: http://www.sociablemedia.com/articles_gray.htm - Infoviz article about XPLANE: http://www.infovis.net/printMag.php?num=86&lang=2 - Founder Dave Gray interviewed by Supersize.org: http://chrisbrogan.supersized.org/archives/152-Interview-Dave-Gray,-Founder-and-CEO-of-XPLANE.html - Founder Dave Gray interviewed by Rising Media: http://www.risingmedia.net/st_louis/page120.html