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Hello, and thanks for the tip. I noticed I'm now listed as having pictures from Wikimedia Commons. Is there a fix for this? Thanks [[User:Davidlwinkler|Davidlwinkler]] ([[User talk:Davidlwinkler|talk]]) 13:51, 5 May 2019 (UTC) |
Hello, and thanks for the tip. I noticed I'm now listed as having pictures from Wikimedia Commons. Is there a fix for this? Thanks [[User:Davidlwinkler|Davidlwinkler]] ([[User talk:Davidlwinkler|talk]]) 13:51, 5 May 2019 (UTC) |
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:{{yo|Davidlwinkler}} I don't know; suggest you go to [[Wikipedia:Help desk]]. [[User:UnitedStatesian|UnitedStatesian]] ([[User talk:UnitedStatesian#top|talk]]) 17:58, 6 May 2019 (UTC) |
:{{yo|Davidlwinkler}} I don't know; suggest you go to [[Wikipedia:Help desk]]. [[User:UnitedStatesian|UnitedStatesian]] ([[User talk:UnitedStatesian#top|talk]]) 17:58, 6 May 2019 (UTC) |
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::Much obliged. Thanks ([[User talk:Davidlwinkler|talk]]) 08:28 May 2019 (UTC) |
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Hey thanks for your edits to Interactive Brokers. I appreciate all of it, however can you put the 2007 category second (so the cats stay alphabetical), and can you remove the NY Times external link? I commented it out because the NYT link used to have a whole topic of articles related to IB, but the contents vanished, so I commented it out for the time. But after a year or more, nothing's changed, so just remove it please. Thanks. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 18:38, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- Done! Unfortunately HotCat can't control the order of the categories. UnitedStatesian (talk) 02:20, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
- Understood, I use HotCat a lot too and have that problem. Thanks for fixing those things, however I saw you changed LLC to Group, Inc. I wrote the article about the much more notable entity, the LLC, and after a significant amount of deliberation after all the research, and contemplation with Wikipedians and others, it really makes sense to keep this article pretty much entirely about the LLC. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 02:24, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
- The problem is that the LLC is not the public company, so the ticker symbol IBKR is not the one for the LLC, the financial information is not that of the LLC, and the LLC is not the company that had the IPO. I think it is important to be consistent with how we treat other public companies. UnitedStatesian (talk) 13:15, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
- And now you understand a part of the conflict here. Sure now the infobox data better correlates with the exact legal entity, but now almost all of the lede, much of the history, operations, and more is off. That's why when I first devised this project, I actually created and had two articles published, one for the LLC and one for IBG. Yet one was too short, prompting an AfD, and the other received less traffic; nobody searches or is interested in IBG. And the two entities are so intertwined it's near-impossible to really separate out accurately, and in fact there are actually way more then two entities to this (jump to the bottom of the page). So even as you edited it, unfortunately it's not accurate. And I'm not even the best-versed in all this, but I had the company take a look at what I wrote; they had a few minor tweaks, and thus it was accurate to the companies as best as it could be. And the companies aren't really separate. Legally, yes, but operationally, no; it's all pretty much seen as one company, with different entities filed with the US government to be able to work with strange and complex national and international regulations. We're going to be dealing with technicalities either way, but trust me, naming as the LLC is the better way. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 03:41, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
- This is not a new problem: think of how many subsidiaries JPMorgan Chase or any other complex company has. But I can't think of any example where the public company article (the one with the ticker symbol, financials, etc.,) is not written from the initial perspective of that public company (with major subs discussed later on). I understand there may be some additional rewrites needed (beyond what I have started), but I think consistency argues strongly for the public entity approach. UnitedStatesian (talk) 12:25, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
- And now you understand a part of the conflict here. Sure now the infobox data better correlates with the exact legal entity, but now almost all of the lede, much of the history, operations, and more is off. That's why when I first devised this project, I actually created and had two articles published, one for the LLC and one for IBG. Yet one was too short, prompting an AfD, and the other received less traffic; nobody searches or is interested in IBG. And the two entities are so intertwined it's near-impossible to really separate out accurately, and in fact there are actually way more then two entities to this (jump to the bottom of the page). So even as you edited it, unfortunately it's not accurate. And I'm not even the best-versed in all this, but I had the company take a look at what I wrote; they had a few minor tweaks, and thus it was accurate to the companies as best as it could be. And the companies aren't really separate. Legally, yes, but operationally, no; it's all pretty much seen as one company, with different entities filed with the US government to be able to work with strange and complex national and international regulations. We're going to be dealing with technicalities either way, but trust me, naming as the LLC is the better way. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 03:41, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
- The problem is that the LLC is not the public company, so the ticker symbol IBKR is not the one for the LLC, the financial information is not that of the LLC, and the LLC is not the company that had the IPO. I think it is important to be consistent with how we treat other public companies. UnitedStatesian (talk) 13:15, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
- Understood, I use HotCat a lot too and have that problem. Thanks for fixing those things, however I saw you changed LLC to Group, Inc. I wrote the article about the much more notable entity, the LLC, and after a significant amount of deliberation after all the research, and contemplation with Wikipedians and others, it really makes sense to keep this article pretty much entirely about the LLC. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 02:24, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
- I'm actually curious, is there a policy or guideline related to what you're insisting? I checked out Wikipedia:Consistency, which only has guidelines on smaller issues, with a failed proposal on general consistency. Although I normally advocate for articles in a topic to be consistent; there are always irregularities that require different handling. I notice JP Morgan is big enough that it can handle an article about the holding company and notable subsidiaries, though for many large companies, that wouldn't be the case. I looked at Goldman Sachs, which follows your standard, though I read the first line, and just like the IB article right now, the first line is wrong. GS "Group Inc. is a bank holding company and a financial holding company", not a "finance company...in banking", etc., just like IBG is not a brokerage firm. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 14:49, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
No, there is not a policy or guideline. Like much (most?) of Wikipedia, practices are built up over thousands of articles (including both the ones you looked at), which makes it unnecessary to codify them. And I don't "insist" on anything: I have a pretty good idea how a US public company article should look (i.e., what brings it closer to being a featured article), but I don't get into edit wars. UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:34, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
- I've been a Wikipedian for basically as long as you have, so I know that many/most controversial issues are resolved through referring to policies or guidelines, or otherwise through consensus (a passive consensus would be referring to other articles as precedents). And I'm not looking to make this a Featured Article; I'm looking to have it make the most sense, and it really doesn't right now how you have it. I don't intend to personally attack you; I'm just trying to work through this issue. As long as a policy or guideline doesn't indicate, then editors can pretty much do whatever they wish and I don't have to agree with your changes unless we both make it an issue enough. Perhaps a third party should look at this issue? What did you think about Goldman Sachs? ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 20:39, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
- Definitely a 3rd party would make sense if you want to solicit. All I know about the Goldman Sachs article is that the name in the info box, and the name in bold at the start of the first sentence, both match exactly the legal name of the company with the trading symbol NYSE: GS, and as such follows WP:NCCORP (and I don't see what else there is to do there). And that is all I wanted to do in Interactive Brokers: match, in the first sentence and the infobox, the company that trades under the symbol Nasdaq: IBKR. UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:49, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
- Huh? This is something you pretty much put in two years ago, possibly without discussion or consensus, and which the Administrator "czar" removed last month, only for you to add it back in today? Sounds sketchy, and anyway, I don't follow rules made by someone I'm having an issue with the exact same day they create rules. That's clearly gaming the system. Though I did see the talk page comments, and you're evidently nonetheless trying to do the right thing. Clearly this issue needs to be worked out with @Czar: and others before you start to enforce it in articles. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 22:00, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
- Agreed that's the proper process, so I've reverted my latest edits to Interactive Brokers, putting it back to the LLC version you authored, pending completion of discussion at WP:NCCORP. Apologies that I was relying on my memory of a guideline that had been in place for 11 years (and note: was not put in by me) and that I missed a change to the guideline made unilaterally only two months ago. UnitedStatesian (talk) 22:09, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
- No worries. Thanks for the fair view over this. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 22:10, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, apparently in 2006, someone added that the legal name of a company should be used in the first sentence, and it stuck about 11 years. Yet "Interactive Brokers LLC" is a legal/full/official name. I don't think this NCCORP has ever distinguished that it needs to be the largest entity/holding company and not the most notable entity. Thus I don't think it even applies here? ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 22:20, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
- Agreed that's the proper process, so I've reverted my latest edits to Interactive Brokers, putting it back to the LLC version you authored, pending completion of discussion at WP:NCCORP. Apologies that I was relying on my memory of a guideline that had been in place for 11 years (and note: was not put in by me) and that I missed a change to the guideline made unilaterally only two months ago. UnitedStatesian (talk) 22:09, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
- Huh? This is something you pretty much put in two years ago, possibly without discussion or consensus, and which the Administrator "czar" removed last month, only for you to add it back in today? Sounds sketchy, and anyway, I don't follow rules made by someone I'm having an issue with the exact same day they create rules. That's clearly gaming the system. Though I did see the talk page comments, and you're evidently nonetheless trying to do the right thing. Clearly this issue needs to be worked out with @Czar: and others before you start to enforce it in articles. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 22:00, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
- Definitely a 3rd party would make sense if you want to solicit. All I know about the Goldman Sachs article is that the name in the info box, and the name in bold at the start of the first sentence, both match exactly the legal name of the company with the trading symbol NYSE: GS, and as such follows WP:NCCORP (and I don't see what else there is to do there). And that is all I wanted to do in Interactive Brokers: match, in the first sentence and the infobox, the company that trades under the symbol Nasdaq: IBKR. UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:49, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
- I've been a Wikipedian for basically as long as you have, so I know that many/most controversial issues are resolved through referring to policies or guidelines, or otherwise through consensus (a passive consensus would be referring to other articles as precedents). And I'm not looking to make this a Featured Article; I'm looking to have it make the most sense, and it really doesn't right now how you have it. I don't intend to personally attack you; I'm just trying to work through this issue. As long as a policy or guideline doesn't indicate, then editors can pretty much do whatever they wish and I don't have to agree with your changes unless we both make it an issue enough. Perhaps a third party should look at this issue? What did you think about Goldman Sachs? ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 20:39, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
But then the infobox needs to change, since Interactive Brokers LLC is not a public company, is not traded under Nasdaq: IBKR, and does not have the financial results listed. (categories and navbox would need to change as well). I have no opinion on which company should be the subject of the article, only that the article should be internally consistent the subject of a single company, either LLC or Interactive Brokers Group Inc.: that is all I was trying, in good faith, to do with my edits (and I think is important to avoid confusing the reader). UnitedStatesian (talk) 22:29, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
- Though how you had it, about 90% of the article would be incorrect. So... Again, these are small technicalities; they're essentially the same company. So in my opinion, how I had it is, for all intents and purposes, correct. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 22:43, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
- Let's just agree to disagree on the "about 90%" number for the Inc. version, but now that it is staying as LLC do you mind my taking a shot at correcting the "small technicalities" in the infobox and categories? UnitedStatesian (talk) 22:46, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
- Okay, and maybe let's create a draft to try that out? ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 23:52, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
- Let's just agree to disagree on the "about 90%" number for the Inc. version, but now that it is staying as LLC do you mind my taking a shot at correcting the "small technicalities" in the infobox and categories? UnitedStatesian (talk) 22:46, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
I think this 'was notable, so I removed the tag. Please bring it to WP:AfD. Bearian (talk) 15:26, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
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Hi there, I have just posted a request on the talk page for the article Broadridge Financial Solutions and, given your involvement with Wikiproject Finance & Investment, I wondered if you'd be willing to consider reviewing it. I have a financial COI as I'm working with the company, and therefore will not directly edit the page, per the WP:COI guideline. The current Broadridge article is quite short, and needs a lot of work; I think the section proposed would go a long way to helping readers understand this company better. Thanks, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 17:31, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
Korey Cooper
There's no need for a discussion about adding redirects. The subject clearly fails WP:N, WP:GNG, WP:MUSICBIO. Notability is lacking and if we have a discussion about it, it will likely be deleted rather than simply ending up as a redirect. Feel free to start a discussion about the subject's notability or support that she is somehow independently notable. You can do so on the talk page of the band article, or at Wikipedia:WikiProject Musicians. Your best hope is to find references and provide them in whatever discussion you start. Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:15, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
Piksel article
Hi! Just wanted to let you know there is a discussion over at the Piksel talk page which would be greatly enhanced if you could offer your input. Any help you can provide on this matter would be most appreciated. Thank you in advance for your time! SPINTENDO 17:50, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
Custom House infobox
Hi, I noticed you blanked the URL in the "homepage" parameter of the company infobox in Custom House (global payments). Just wondering what the reasoning was, or if it was a mistake? Fyi, I added the URL to the Wikidata entry, and removed the empty "homepage" parameter because it was blocking display of the Wikidata info. --IamNotU (talk) 20:28, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
NPR Newsletter No.11 25 May 2018
ACTRIAL:
- WP:ACREQ has been implemented. The flow at the feed has dropped back to the levels during the trial. However, the backlog is on the rise again so please consider reviewing a few extra articles each day; a backlog approaching 5,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.
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Westar Energy
I opposed and reverted the last move, and I'm doing the same here. Westar merged with KCP&L, so that article should be moved too. Or the two should be merged into Evergy. Maybe just create a new article? Corky 20:36, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
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NPR Newsletter No.12 30 July 2018
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Since the drive closed, the backlog has begun to rise sharply again and is back up to nearly 1,400 already. Please help reduce this total and keep it from raising further by reviewing some articles each day.
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7201 listed at Redirects for discussion
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What is Canadian
Please discuss.
Broadcom page moves and broken links
Hi, UnitedStatesian, and greetings.
I appreciate that your move of Broadcom Limited to Broadcom Inc. and your move of Broadcom to Broadcom Corporation were well-intentioned. I do not currently have an opinion about those moves, except to say that they were not unreasonable.
I also appreciate that your subsequent edit of Broadcom to point to Broadcom Inc. instead of to Broadcom Corporation was probably well-intentioned. However, this, I feel, was not so reasonable - at least, not without a corresponding effort to fix any inbound links that were broken as a result. I have therefore reverted that edit. If you wish to restore it, please be sure to amend any inbound links accordingly. Thank you.
I am not posting this to admonish you, just to explain why I reverted that edit. Also, apologies for the hasty tone; I am editing under some time pressure but want to get the inbound links fixed before I break off. Thanks for understanding, Zazpot (talk) 13:01, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks, @Zazpot:. I made Broadcom a dab, which I think is a better solution. UnitedStatesian (talk) 17:03, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
- I am fine with it being a dab, but I have reverted your change (again, sorry), because it again broke inbound anchor links. Please can you be sure to take any inbound links in hand before doing this again? Thanks. Zazpot (talk) 18:22, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Zazpot:, can you please specify the anchor links about which you are concerned? I have taken the inbound links into consideration, but there are still nearly 500, and I think you are letting the perfect be the enemy of the good in opposing an edit that is helpful to editors and more accurate. UnitedStatesian (talk) 17:47, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
- @UnitedStatesian:, I know that you addressed one of them, here; thank you for that. As for the rest, I think they merit similar treatment, and should be reviewed and in (nearly?) all cases, updated, one-by-one. The authors of those links expected them to point to a particular article, and I really don't think that an edit that silently points them to the wrong article can fairly be described as "helpful to editors and more accurate": in the long run, it will be much more work to fix those links, as their creation will be buried deeper in the page histories, etc. Perhaps there is a tool somewhere that will assist you in reviewing the inbound links; I don't know. I'm sorry I can't be more help. I hope you see why I am asking for care rather than haste here, and can see that I am being a pragmatist rather than a perfectionist. Zazpot (talk) 18:51, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
NPR Newsletter No.13 18 September 2018
Hello UnitedStatesian, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!
The New Page Feed currently has 2700 unreviewed articles, up from just 500 at the start of July. For a while we were falling behind by an average of about 40 articles per day, but we have stabilised more recently. Please review some articles from the back of the queue if you can (Sort by: 'Oldest' at Special:NewPagesFeed), as we are very close to having articles older than one month.
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- The New Page Feed now has a new "Articles for Creation" option which will show drafts instead of articles in the feed, this shouldn't impact NPP activities and is part of the WMF's AfC Improvement Project.
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NPR Newsletter No.14 21 October 2018
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Hello UnitedStatesian, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!
- Backlog
As of 21 October 2018[update], there are 3650 unreviewed articles and the backlog now stretches back 51 days.
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NPR Newsletter No.15 16 November 2018
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- Community Wishlist Survey – NPP needs you – Vote NOW
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- If this proposal does not make it into the top ten, it is likely that the tools will be given no support at all for the foreseeable future. So please put in a vote today.
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Speedy deletion declined: List fo current champions in NXT
Hello UnitedStatesian. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of List fo current champions in NXT, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: R3 only applies to recently created and implausible redirects. Use WP:RFD if you want deletion. Thank you. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 03:00, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
- Same goes for List fo current United States lieutenant governors and List fo governors of Arkansas. WP:CSD#R3 is for recent redirects, but since these have all been around for a few years WP:RfD is the place to go. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 03:02, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks, @Amorymeltzer:, I have RFD'd all three. UnitedStatesian (talk) 04:10, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
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Xolani Sotashe
I see you removed the speedy on Xolani Sotashe. Take a look at the move logs & edit histories of Xolani Sotashe & Draft:Xolani Sotashe, and a look at the conversation on my talk page - User talk:Cabayi#Speedy deletion of Xolani Sotashe. Which version has been worked on? Which should be kept? I think you've got it wrong. Cabayi (talk) 18:34, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Cabayi:: thanks for the question; looking at the article I think you have done the right think to nominate it for speedy deletion, but the reason was not correct. I corrected the reason, and once the article is deleted if you have any trouble moving Draft into the article space let me know and I can help with that. UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:54, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
- Two days ago, in the same circumstances I put a G6 on American Medical Group Association, and as you can see, it was deleted A10 to Draft:American Medical Group Association. Perhaps you want to argue the toss with the deleting admin? I really couldn't care what tag it's deleted under so long as it goes. Cabayi (talk) 21:03, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
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CSD C1
Hello, UnitedStatesian,
I just wanted to let you know, if you didn't, that CSD C1, for empty categories, is treated differently from other rationales for speedy deletion. Categories that are tagged sit for 7 days in a holdover category. In that time, they can fill up again and the tag is removed or an editor can decide to place an {{emptycat}} tag on the category that says that the category shouldn't be deleted even if it is empty. But categories with a CSD C1 tag are not immediately deleted when they are tagged.
My apologies if you were already familiar with this policy but you removed a tag from a category so I thought I'd post a short explanation. Liz Read! Talk! 06:01, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
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Hi UnitedStatesian, you stated that IMDB exists, and removed the BLP Prod. IMDB is non RS as you know, whether it exists, or doesn't exist is irrelevant. What is known about IMDB is that it non RS. It cant be used for a reference, except in linking to specific content. So it is not valid, whether it is there or not. It is null concept. So it cant be used as an argument for supplying a reference. The second source to the website, doesn't mention the fact that he has written 50 books. I had a good look through, could see it. So have two references, once doesn't exist, as it is a null reference, the other one doesnt provides the goods, except to prove he exists. So neither can be used for BLP. They are both dud. Hopefully you will not removed the blpprod and then I will have to send it to Afd, stating the exact same arguments again. scope_creep (talk) 16:18, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- Hey @Scope creep:, I believe this RfC confirms my understanding that if the article has an imdb link, it is NOT eligible for WP:BLPPROD and a different process (such as "regular" WP:PROD) needs to be used. (talk) 16:23, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- Hi @UnitedStatesian: Is that the rule, I vaguely remember reading about it years ago. I don't think it takes cognizance of the fact whether the actual text itself constitutes a valid acceptable sentence in terms of content. The current test is defined as valid, if it has external links written down, even if those external links are not worth a sot. It will probably going to Afd, and wasting every bodies times. scope_creep (talk) 16:34, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- Hey @Scope creep:, why not just regular WP:PROD? UnitedStatesian (talk) 16:35, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- Hi @UnitedStatesian: With a bit of luck, somebody will come in and add a couple of references, over the length of the Afd. The guy is notable, but there is not the slightest bit of coverage. His books are everywhere, so a good newspaper article reference or two would be ideal, and would be enough for a micro article. The books are those type that do well at Christmas, jokesy kind of stuff, which may preclude coverage, as theyre not important enough to talk about. scope_creep (talk) 16:55, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- Hey @Scope creep:, why not just regular WP:PROD? UnitedStatesian (talk) 16:35, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- Hi @UnitedStatesian: Is that the rule, I vaguely remember reading about it years ago. I don't think it takes cognizance of the fact whether the actual text itself constitutes a valid acceptable sentence in terms of content. The current test is defined as valid, if it has external links written down, even if those external links are not worth a sot. It will probably going to Afd, and wasting every bodies times. scope_creep (talk) 16:34, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
Bill Cummings (philanthropist) moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Bill Cummings (philanthropist), does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:
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- @Discospinster:, 22 minutes, really? We should block all creation in the mainspace, then. UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:12, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
- 22 minutes is more than enough time to come up with more sources. ... discospinster talk 21:16, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Discospinster:. I have them all ready to go in, I just can't type as fast as you, obviously. I didn't realize Wikipedia had a deadline measured in minutes. UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:18, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
- Good thing there is a draft space where you can work on things at your own pace! ... discospinster talk 01:53, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
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FYI, WP:EXISTING is still an explanatory supplement, not a guideline. The guideline WP:REDNO clearly states templates can have redlinks as long as they are not excessive. In any case, I wrote stubs for all the remaining redlinks so that they're not red any more. Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 04:29, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
Hi. You need to supply a reliable source for the date of death of this person. Please note, that another Wikipedia project (such as the Polish one), is not classed as a reliable source. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 14:36, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hey @Lugnuts:, then why not just tag the date of death as {{citation needed}}, rather than removing it? UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:03, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi. Please see WP:BLPREMOVE. And the burden is with you to cite what you add. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 15:05, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks, @Lugnuts: I thought WP:BLPREMOVE only applied to contentious information. (and only if the person is actually living, of course). And also quoting from WP:BURDEN: "In some cases, editors may object if you remove material without giving them time to provide references; consider adding a citation needed tag as an interim step." UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:07, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
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UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:04, 4 December 2018 (UTC)- Hey, I notice that after I had declined this Draft, you (as a reviewer) submitted it and accepted it despite no additional changes. I declined the draft based on the lack of references that meet the criteria for establishing notability. Did you spot something I'd missed? Were there references I misinterpreted? Are you even supposed to resubmit and accept articles in this manner? HighKing++ 18:20, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hey @HighKing:, thanks for the question. After reviewing in detail, I was of the opinion that the sources do establish notability per WP:ORG, which is why I submitted it and accepted it. I am not aware of any prohibition on such resubmission/acceptance, but if I have missed such a prohibition please point me to it and accept my apologies in advance. UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:25, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
- Can you simply point me to any two references that you believe meet the criteria for establishing notability included in that article and I will take another look. Thank you. HighKing++ 18:29, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
- I don't think you need that from me in order to take another look at the references. UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:34, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
- @UnitedStatesian: I had already reviewed the sources and I could not find any that met the criteria for notability before you resubmitted and accepted the article. I provided my reasoning on the Draft page. Hence my request to you here for the references you believe suffice as I have overlooked good references in the past. HighKing++ 10:34, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
- Nevermind, I can tell you're not going to respond. I've stuck it in for an AfD, hopefully others might assist in coming to a consensus. HighKing++ 22:25, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
- @UnitedStatesian: I had already reviewed the sources and I could not find any that met the criteria for notability before you resubmitted and accepted the article. I provided my reasoning on the Draft page. Hence my request to you here for the references you believe suffice as I have overlooked good references in the past. HighKing++ 10:34, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
- I don't think you need that from me in order to take another look at the references. UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:34, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
- Can you simply point me to any two references that you believe meet the criteria for establishing notability included in that article and I will take another look. Thank you. HighKing++ 18:29, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hey @HighKing:, thanks for the question. After reviewing in detail, I was of the opinion that the sources do establish notability per WP:ORG, which is why I submitted it and accepted it. I am not aware of any prohibition on such resubmission/acceptance, but if I have missed such a prohibition please point me to it and accept my apologies in advance. UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:25, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
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Flooded with them hundreds 07:18, 5 December 2018 (UTC)I have unreviewed a page you curated
Thanks for reviewing Moldova in the Junior Eurovision Song Contest 2012, UnitedStatesian.
Unfortunately Domdeparis has just gone over this page again and unreviewed it. Their note is:
this article is unsourced. How can you mark it as reviewed without at least tagging it ?
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Thanks for reviewing Moldova in the Junior Eurovision Song Contest 2013, UnitedStatesian.
Unfortunately Domdeparis has just gone over this page again and unreviewed it. Their note is:
again this is unsourced, it should at least have been tagged
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UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:16, 6 December 2018 (UTC)I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm Insertcleverphrasehere. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Simon Hope Broadbent, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.
— Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 14:08, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry, I meant to send you a note but when going back through my editis I forgot to come back over here. PRODed and CSD tagged articles should not be marked as reviewed, per consensus here. It stops them falling through the cracks if the PROD is removed and the original reviewer doesn't notice (read the linked discussion above for more info). I wasn't implying that your review wasn't accurate or that the article should not be deleted, it's just how we decided to do it moving forward. — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here)(click me!) 10:14, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Insertcleverphrasehere: Sounds great, thanks for the clarification. I knew I should have read all 30 Archives! :) UnitedStatesian (talk) 14:52, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
Huh?
I don't understand why you reverted a justified (because the page doesn't meet WP:GNG), 4+1⁄2-year-old redirect. Redirection is not deletion; please see WP:ATD-R. Miniapolis 01:34, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- I could not understand this revert either: [1]. Redirection is not "deletion", and the subject is not independently notable of the parent company anyway. --K.e.coffman (talk) 04:15, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
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Thanks for fixing that Fazleyev blank! I got distracted, and din't even realize I did that! –uncleben85 (talk) 19:30, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
- You're very welcome! UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:33, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
List of killings by law enforcement officers in the United States, November 2018
Good day. Don't forget to put {{oldrfd}} at Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2018_December_17#List of killings by law enforcement officers in the United States, November 2018. --Jax 0677 (talk) 21:32, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks @Jax 0677:, but I thought {{oldrfd}} was only if the page stayed a redirect, and this is now an article; am I off base here? :UnitedStatesian (talk) 22:05, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
- Reply - If the redirect gets deleted, there is no place to put {{oldrfd}}. If an article gets created, there is a place to put the tag. However, I meant to say at the talk page for List of killings by law enforcement officers in the United States, November 2018. --Jax 0677 (talk) 22:27, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
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Ways to improve List of monarchs who lost their thrones in the 21st century
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UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:53, 30 December 2018 (UTC)Reg edits on Microland page
Hi,
I got your message regarding paid editing. I had a few doubts. I am fairly new to Wikipedia content editing and would greatly appreciate if you could help.
1. I work for Microland and am not getting paid for making the edits on the page (This is not my role at all). But I have been assigned the task to make the page factually correct. Does this make me a paid advocate? 2. I want to revamp the page with updated content about our history and journey since 1989. Can I share the new content with you for review? If not, whom can I reach out to for this?
Thank you for the help in advance.
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Thanks for the information about cats!
I didn't know I shouldn't be adding categories to sandbox items - oops! Thanks for letting me know :) HereAndSometimesThere (talk) 03:54, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
List of banks
You deleted many banks of List of banks (alphabetically). This is a list of all banks, so I was wondering why you deleted banks. Thank you for explaining.--Bob Smit (talk) 13:06, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
Hello! Is there any reason you removed the BLPPROD for this article as invalid? It seems like a very clear case of an article that isn't yet ready for mainspace and may never be. - Sdkb (talk) 16:01, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Sdkb: I agree with you 100%, but BLP PROD does not apply because there are are two external links on the page (not good WP references, but "references" for purposes of BLP PROD nonetheless). Try regular PROD instead. UnitedStatesian (talk) 16:04, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
You edit conflicted me!
Either way, I just fixed Twinkle's functionality on today's RFD page. (My edit summary had you mentioned in it, but no matter since you saw it and it's now fixed.) Steel1943 (talk) 19:19, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, @Steel1943:! UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:21, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
Why did you move it into article namespace? Ivo (talk) 23:31, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Kruusamägi:, it looked to me like it was mainspace content; the intro. did not specify anything related to Wikipedia. Feel free to move it back if you think that is the appropriate think to do. UnitedStatesian (talk) 01:08, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- Back in 2014 I created it based on a request from en.wiki and it was intended as a wikiproject page (that competition has grown into international wiki photography competition like WLM or WLE). I can rewrite it into an article, but it wasn't created as one. Ivo (talk) 10:41, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
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UnitedStatesian (talk) 01:59, 9 January 2019 (UTC)Template:Klasky Csupo
Would you like to create "Template:Klasky Csupo" here at Wikipedia? A certain user was blocked for vandalism. --73.6.75.134 (talk) 00:34, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
g4
Hi UnitedStatesian. Can you let me know how you determined that Anjali_Mukerjee isn't substantially similar to any of the three prior AFDs (specifically without access to the deleted content) and none of the current sources date past the 2016 AFD? This edit summary concerns me as I'm not sure how a non-admin can sufficiently assess an article deleted 2 years ago. Praxidicae (talk) 19:49, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Praxidicae:, thanks for the question; I was basing it on the only prior AfD discussion, which states "there is only one reference link to an article". Since the current article has more, including ones dated after that discussion, I think that is pretty clear evidence the content is not "substantially identical", as g4 requires. UnitedStatesian (talk) 00:44, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
Hello, UnitedStatesian,
I just untagged this category that you created that had marked for deletion because, at that time, it was empty. But it is empty no longer. But I'd like to ask you to assign parent categories to it so that it is findable in the Wikipedia category system. Parent categories are important so that any reader seeking information can find it through more general categories that Category:Phraseology is a part of. Thank you for your help. Liz Read! Talk! 03:32, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
- Apologies, @Liz: got distracted mid-creation and hadn't gotten back to it. Hate being on that orphan cat. report until the next refresh! UnitedStatesian (talk) 03:39, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
- No problem, UnitedStatesian. It's actually not so uncommon. Just a friendly reminder! Liz Read! Talk! 04:37, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
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'Notable' in article titles
Hello. Regarding this change, I looked at the guideline you cited and could not find any reference to the word "Notable" in article titles. Can you point me to the proper paragraph? Thanks! BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 00:57, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
- @BeenAroundAWhile: Apologies, the correct reference is at WP:LISTNAME: "Best practice is usually to avoid words like notable, famous, noted, prominent, etc. in the title of a list article. Similarly, avoid titles like List of all Xs." UnitedStatesian (talk) 13:45, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
I was trying to close older discussions but I'm unclear which pages you were looking to have deleted. Is there a list? CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 22:06, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
- @CambridgeBayWeather:, thanks for taking this on; unfortunately it is an enormous list, with a page for each month beginning with Portal:Current events/November 1994, Portal:Current events/December 1994, Portal:Current events/January 1995, Portal:Current events/February 1995, etc., and then an even larger number of pages for each day, such as Portal:Current events/1994 November 5, Portal:Current events/1994 November 6, Portal:Current events/1994 November 13, etc., etc. Assuming the discussion closes as delete, I would consider tagging them all as CSD G6, housekeeping, to facilitate this; you thoughts? UnitedStatesian (talk) 17:30, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
Invalid dinosaur moved to draftspace
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You've missed this one btw. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 21:12, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks @Headbomb:. Adding it to the nom. so all will be decided either way as a complete set. UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:15, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
Hopes all's well with that section now. I know we were going back and forth a bit with editing it. I also performed a couple of edits that make it appear that I'm owning the change of "Withdrawn" to "Not intended as a nomination" so that it doesn't look like you were editing my statement (since that's somewhat of a violation of WP:TPO.) Either way, that section's existence should be noted on Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion until the transclusion of Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 31 is removed. Steel1943 (talk) 22:14, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Steel1943:, of course, it is all good, thanks. UnitedStatesian (talk) 22:18, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
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flow arts redirect
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LDS/JW book
Split done. The history-split process is simple to perform, but it leaves behind very little evidence that the pages weren't always separate, just as the history-merge process leaves little evidence that the pages were separate. That's why I wasn't willing to do anything before the close — it would look like you'd nominated a page that was already at the right place, almost without any LDS history at all. Also, undoing either a merge or a split can take a good deal of work (see the amusing warning at WP:HM#Manual process and the complex diagrams at that point and a little farther down), so if I'd done the split and people then rejected my idea for some reason, it would have taken a bunch of needless effort to put the split revisions back in the history of the LDS page, since you hadn't asked for them to be trashed. So thank you for withdrawing :-) Nyttend (talk) 22:56, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
CfD closure
Thanks for closing this discussion! For info, when closing a discussion you are also supposed to remove the tags on the category page and to add an 'old CFD' template on the category talk page. More details see the CfD closure instructions. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:40, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
- Ha, I was just about to say the same! Thanks, and I've removed the tags and documented the result on the category's talk page. Cheers, -- Black Falcon (talk) 22:50, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks both, I am using the closing helper script and must not have checked the "make related changes" box. Will watch out in the future. UnitedStatesian (talk) 00:42, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
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Over at RfD, thanks for closing mine. But it wasn't "Withdrarn", it was "Withdrawn". What kind of Southern drawl do you have, sir?
That made my day. I am glad that I am not the only one who makes typos. I know it's puerile, but it really made me laugh. So thanks very much. 178.164.162.144 (talk) 15:19, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
- thanks @178.164.162.144:. I have to correct it, but hope the laughter lasts nonetheless. UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:20, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
- Now I have Foghorn Leghorn in my head saying it. 178.164.162.144 (talk) 15:25, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
MfD closure
Hi. I saw this closure that you made. Can I suggest instead that an administrator hist-merge the revisions, so that it is clear what the source of the article's content was? --DannyS712 (talk) 02:40, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
- Done @DannyS712: histmerge requested. UnitedStatesian (talk) 04:02, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
Redirect categories
Hello, UnitedStatesian,
Please do not blank category pages, especially redirect pages. See CFD Redirect Categories for policy on this matter. Wikipedia keeps article and category redirects and it is not proper to CSD C1 speedy delete empty categories that are actually being used as redirects. If you want a category redirect deleted, please do not blank it but propose it at WP:CFD for consideration. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 05:32, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
- Hey @Liz: thanks; can you point me to a previous CfD discussion for a soft-redirected category so I can see how to spell out such a delete nomination? UnitedStatesian (talk) 05:38, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
- Okay, now I will look or talk to those who have been around longer than I. Liz Read! Talk! 04:17, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
BLPPROD
Hi there, I restored the BLPPROD here as this says To be canceled, this process (when correctly initiated) requires the presence of at least one reliable source that supports at least one statement made about the person in the biography. Do not remove the until the biography has at least one such source.
iMDb is not a reliable source and as such, does not negate the prod. Thanks! Praxidicae (talk) 20:19, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
Your Editing Of The Jamie Shupe Article?
Can you explain the reason for removing me from the category of writers and Ocala, Florida where I reside?
You attempted to put me in Genderqueer writers despite me having returned to my male birth sex which makes me question what you are doing?
Thanks.
Jamie Shupe
- @JamieShupe:: thanks for the questions. Category:Writers is a category only for other categories; if you click on it you see yours would have been the only one in it. Similarly, a better category than Category:Ocala, Florida would have been one of its subcategories, such as Category:People from Ocala, Florida. Let me know if you have any other questions. UnitedStatesian (talk) 00:49, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
Next Question: So rather than just deleting the categories, if you know these things then why didn't fix them with the proper Ocala category and writer category? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JamieShupe (talk • contribs) 00:52, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
- @JamieShupe:: I could not find any sourced mention of the location of residence in the article, and the fact that the article's subject has written some things does not not automatically mean the article should be thusly categorized; please check out WP:DEFINING for information about what categories are the best ones to apply. UnitedStatesian (talk) 03:40, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
The PJmedia article says: "As a result, I have returned to my male birth sex.” He announced that he had lived in Ocala, Florida, since July of last year and that, on the previous day, he had been issued a Florida driver’s license identifying him as a male. “In my thirty plus year marriage,” he went on to say,"
https://pjmedia.com/trending/a-transgender-hero-breaks-ranks/
The writer section says: "As a writer, Shupe has articles and essays published in The New York Times,[29] The Guardian,[64] The Federalist,[65] MercatorNet,[66] The Daily Signal,[67] and Medium.[68]"
So at this point, I would like for you to either fix this stuff or undo your edits. As you know, I'm not supposed to edit my own page, so I have to instead confront you about your edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JamieShupe (talk • contribs) 10:24, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
- @JamieShupe:, I think it is better for you to raise these article's more broadly on the articles talk page, Talk:Jamie Shupe. UnitedStatesian (talk) 22:03, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
@UnitedStatesian, funny you should say that. I posted the PJMedia article on the talk page on February 15th. You edited my page on February 23rd. Do you not read the talk page before you start editing? Or is this editing stuff about running around making mass edits to get awards and decorations from Wikipedia? I'm not supposed to edit the page myself because it creates a conflict of interest, so still waiting on you to fix or remove the errors you created.--JamieShupe (talk) 22:10, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
- @JamieShupe:, apologies that I missed the request; we all make mistakes. The request is there on the talk page now. UnitedStatesian (talk) 22:47, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
Fixed — The Transhumanist 20:51, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
It is like arguing against a person's religion. Policy, logic and other people's views have no power over deeply held beliefs. Legacypac (talk) 21:37, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
Hello, UnitedStatesian,
I saw that you put a possibly empty cat tag on this category. Usually this tag is reserved for tracking categories and other maintenance categories on Wikipedia that might be empty time to time but usually will end up having contents at some point.
What led you to believe this category should be retained even if it is currently empty? Do you expect it to be used in the near future?
I meant to thank you, by the way, for the work you do with categories. It's a not an area of the project that has a lot of regularly contributing editors, so thanks! Liz Read! Talk! 02:40, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
- You are very welcome, @Liz:, I enjoy helping out. I marked the cat because it is populated by {{Heteropolypeptide}}, which is transcluded into a number of articles, so the cat should not be empty once the updating process catches up. I dd not want the cat marked as C1 and possibly deleted in the interim. Once the populating begins I will remove {{possibly empty category}}. UnitedStatesian (talk) 02:49, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
Page flagged for speedy deletion
You flagged my page Wikipedia:Outreach_Dashboard/University_of_Derby/5PU506_Content_Development_(January_2019) for speedy deletion under criteria G8. I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what this means, or how I fix it. Sorry if I messed up somewhere with it! If you could let me know how to fix the issue, I'll get right on it. Cbderbylib (talk) 18:17, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Cbderbylib:, sorry about that; you saw I removed the tag. I think the page may be in the wrong place; perhaps it should be in wikiedu.org instead? I'll do some research on my end, but I won't make any changes without letting you know what I find out. UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:45, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks so much, I appreciate it! Happy to do any changes necessary. Cbderbylib (talk) 19:08, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
Hi UnitedStatesian. Unfortunately, when WikiProject Portals automated it, they had many of its sub-pages deleted making it impossible to revert to the previous version without masses of red links and distorted layout. You might want to think of restoring the automated version and then trying to get the deleted sub-pages and elements restored first. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 14:36, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Voceditenore:, already on it, have made the WP:REFUND request. Should be good as soon as the request is completed. And great job with Portal:Opera, by the way. UnitedStatesian (talk) 14:38, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
Copying licensed material requires attribution
Hi. I see in a recent addition to Draft:FACC AG you included material from the German Wikipedia. That's okay, but you have to give attribution so that our readers are made aware that you copied the prose rather than wrote it yourself. I've added the attribution for this particular instance. Please make sure that you follow this licensing requirement when copying from compatibly-licensed material in the future. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 00:48, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
NPR Newsletter No.17
Hello UnitedStatesian,
- News
- The WMF has announced that Google Translate is now available for translating articles through the content translation tool. This may result in an increase in machine translated articles in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to use the {{rough translation}} tag and gently remind (or inform) editors that translations from other language Wikipedia pages still require attribution per WP:TFOLWP.
- Discussions of interest
- Two elements of CSD G6 have been split into their own criteria: R4 for redirects in the "File:" namespace with the same name as a file or redirect at Wikimedia Commons (Discussion), and G14 for disambiguation pages which disambiguate zero pages, or have "(disambiguation)" in the title but disambiguate a single page (Discussion).
- {{db-blankdraft}} was merged into G13 (Discussion)
- A discussion recently closed with no consensus on whether to create a subject-specific notability guideline for theatrical plays.
- There is an ongoing discussion on a proposal to create subject-specific notability guidelines for chemicals and organism taxa.
- Reminders
- NPR is not a binary keep / delete process. In many cases a redirect may be appropriate. The deletion policy and its associated guideline clearly emphasise that not all unsuitable articles must be deleted. Redirects are not contentious. See a classic example of the templates to use. More templates are listed at the R template index. Reviewers who are not aware, do please take this into consideration before PROD, CSD, and especially AfD because not even all admins are aware of such policies, and many NAC do not have a full knowledge of them.
- NPP Tools Report
- Superlinks – allows you to check an article's history, logs, talk page, NPP flowchart (on unpatrolled pages) and more without navigating away from the article itself.
- copyvio-check – automatically checks the copyvio percentage of new pages in the background and displays this info with a link to the report in the 'info' panel of the Page curation toolbar.
- The NPP flowchart now has clickable hyperlinks.
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Brussels bombings listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Brussels bombings. Since you had some involvement with the Brussels bombings redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. B dash (talk) 12:34, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
number9ine
UnitedStatesian, I do hope the name reflects old fashioned American integrity as this handle suggests. Good to meet you, we here at Number9ine are looking to fill in the blanks on many artists who's contributions have been overlooked or not yet identified, we are excited to work with editors at Wikipedia and welcome guidance. If you would set up development page(s) for photographer(s) Tracy (Charles L. Tracy), Ruby (Ruth Tracy). Number9ine (production studio), 9 (Patrick di Santo), Anna Cleveland (model) and Ruby Studios, that worked together with Stephan Burrows, Halston, Elsa Peretti, Jean Michel Basquiate and others before their untimely deaths or hiatuses. Currently are working on a The piece "9" about American artist: Patrick di Santo and his affiliations that should be of interest to yourself not only for his contributions to the arts world but also his contributions to fathers's rights, children's rights, parent's rights, disabled person's rights and psychology. We will look forward to assemble important information in this one very convenient location. Please advise us regarding moving the current drafts we have been assembling to the best location for review. Again good to meet you. (Number9ine (talk) 22:44, 18 March 2019 (UTC))
Point72 Edits
Hello UnitedStatesian, this is Alex Reads. I have been making edits on behalf of my employer, Point72 Asset Management, for a couple of years now with the assistance of volunteer editors. I have been transparent about my edits and seek to improve the article by Wikipedia best practices standards. I saw that you had most recently edited the article and wanted to let you know it needs some updating. Would you be willing to either a) let me make the updates and then review them; b) let me post them on your talk page, or the article talk page, for your review; or c) review them and make them on my behalf? Thanks! AlexReads (talk) 01:00, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
- @AlexReads: I am happy to help. Please post the requested updates on the article talk page. I and other editors will review and make them. Thanks for you help on the project! UnitedStatesian (talk) 11:39, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
What is being done about portals right now, as we speak...
While the deletion discussions surrounding portals have been raging on, here is what has been going on behind-the-scenes...
Currently, there are 546 portals, comprised of around 100,000 pages in portal space, the rest beyond the 546 being subpages. Most of those subpages contain an excerpt, copied and pasted from some article. Such excerpts never change, and they go stale over time (no longer matching the original source material), but at least they’re excerpts from quality articles and not 1 sentence from a stub or a list.
The Portal Cleanup WikiProject was launched on March 8th, and has grown to 5 members (4 reverters plus 1 person who edited the page to fix a mistagging by me). We've been busy reverting portal redesigns that broke the portals so that all those subpages will be needed, which causes some problems because of outdated excerpts, but it’s the lesser of two evils.
The design concept called "selective transclusion", which is used for migrating excerpts (moving them to the base page), does so by displaying part of an article the same as a template. An added benefit of this is that it also keeps them fresh, by always showing the current version of the content that is transcluded. This sort of thing is okay as long as it doesn’t transclude garbage (see above).
Our parent project has also worked on ways to make excerpted content, and listed entries, dynamic, so that the material or links shown automatically change over time without the intervention of an editor. Selected articles, could be set up to change daily, for example, to present a different article each day. This can even be made to show a different article every time a user visits the page. Currently, we can do this from a set list. We're trying to make it so that the list is updated automatically from an external source that is regularly maintained. Well, they said this back when they were starting up the project, but then they gave us slideshows, which aren’t as good. It’s like when time and time again, the English Wikipedia community tells the WMF, “we want Visual Editor enabled on talk pages” and then the WMF gives us Flow. Never mind, that’s unfair to the slideshows.
Other automated solutions are being judged with regard to whether they need to be undone. Examples of good changes to portals include automatically updating did you know entries, and replacing outdated news from dead-project-walking Wikinews with auto-updating In the News sections that provide news about spider monkeys and the Richmond Spiders on Portal:Spiders (this has since been fixed to actually provide news on spiders), and so on. This is why bug fixing is also important, for both new-style and old-style portals. Make sure to report bugs at the Portals Wikiproject's talk page, and be prepared for a quick response. I have a lot of gripes about portals, their WikiProject, and its leaders, but the people there are nothing if not responsive.
Once we find portals that have been degraded by the subpar automated design, they will be reverted to versions that invariably still have problems, but at least they have fewer problems. This will probably increase the amount of maintenance they need, so consider maintaining portals in areas of interest. A single editor will then be able to watch over far more portals than before, ideally, thanks to MfDs (and maybe CSD X3 soon) decreasing the overall number of portals.
The Portal WikiProject is dedicated to fixing, improving, and maintaining the entire portal system and every portal in it. Come check us out, and if you like what you see, feel free to join. We may even surprise ourselves and exceed all expectations. Who knows what we will be able to accomplish in what may become the biggest Wikicollaboration in years.
Let's do this.
See ya at the WikiProject!
TL;DR I’ve got a list of portals that have been reverted or may need to be reverted (though not all do) from their automated versions over at WP:WikiProject Portals/Cleanup. You may want to list your reverts there (add the portals to the bottom section if they’re not there), or use the list to check more portals. The page also has some tips on when to revert. — pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 21:08, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
Portal Creations
@UnitedStatesian, For making many portals that I made, which is too narrow, no needed, etc. Is this a suggestion for to take a break from making portals?-- Happypillsjr ✉ 05:07, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Happypillsjr: Yes, I think such a break would well serve both you and the project, and has no downside, since there is so much else within Wikipedia to work on. But that's just my opinion. UnitedStatesian (talk) 05:11, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
Sorry!
Hello, UnitedStatesian,
I meant to undo your edit on Category:Kevin Lilliana, not rollback your edit. The category is no longer empty and, even if it was empty, it's not wise to remove all of the parent categories as these should be checked before category is deleted. My apologies for the mistaken rollback. Liz Read! Talk! 16:23, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- No worries, was my mistake; only wanted to rm Category:Living people (should have used HotCat). UnitedStatesian (talk) 16:25, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
Inquiry from a Public Relations Representative for Cantel on Assessing Wikipedia Article
Hello UnitedStatesian,
My name is Saralynn and I am a Public Relations professional at GCI Health, an agency specializing in healthcare. We’re reaching out on behalf of our clients at Cantel to potentially update outdated information found on the Cantel Wikipedia page.
We’re reaching out to you because we know Wikipedia users depend on active, qualified editors for accurate and supported articles. We felt that given your previous efforts editing Wikipedia pages on UBM Technology Group you might be interested in reviewing this page through the lens of updating older information.
To further disclose our position, we are aware that per Wikipedia’s guidelines, neither the company nor the company’s representatives can make direct edits to Wikipedia pages. Respecting these rules, our priority is ensuring that the Wiki has the most up-to-date information – we’re reaching out in the hopes you may be able to assess the current state of the page against publicly available information on Cantel to make accurate and appropriate updates.
Please let me know if you have any follow-up questions.
Best regards, SLK2019 (talk) 22:43, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Portal:Submarine merge went in the wrong direction
The newer portal (always automated) should have been just deleted in favor of the older portal which has a lengthy history and all the sub pages attached. BusterD (talk) 19:28, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
- WP:Sofixit if you feel that way. UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:45, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
- The merge discussion indicated the outcome I've described above. I don't like to edit war. I will fix it but didn't want to war about it. Thanks for your agreement. BusterD (talk) 21:43, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
- statesman you make me laugh~ ~(: mitch ~ Mitchellhobbs (talk) 22:35, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
The article Corteva Agriscience has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
Company has not yet generated enough media coverage under the Too Soon and Crystal Ball standards, and the article makes no attempt to assert notability.
While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}}
notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.
Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}}
will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 20:00, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
Nomination of Corteva Agriscience for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Corteva Agriscience is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Corteva Agriscience until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 14:22, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
Being human
It's a sign of a meticulous editor that they can spot an apparently misconceived redirect and nominate it for deletion. Most just walk by.
It's a sign of human fallibility that sometimes that initial judgement doesn't stand up to further scrutiny.
And it's a sign of a really good conscientious human editor that they scrutinise their own work, and gracefully withdraw if they find it wasn't what it seems.
So thank you for all of the steps which led to this[2]. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:05, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks @BrownHairedGirl: that mean so much to me to hear from any editor, but especially coming from you. ~~
Just to let you know...
I have removed all the deletion notices on portal pages just now. Because you are applying to be added to the check page and used this as the rationale to be added, you probably want to add other reasons for needing the rights. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 14:02, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, @Dreamy Jazz: but I don't think you got them all. Portal:Iran/Persian_literature is just one example. UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:58, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- UnitedStatesian, Ah. I see the problem. Forgot the shortcut. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 16:00, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- UnitedStatesian There are 100 pages left now. Do you want to do them when you have WP:JWB or not? (I'm happy to leave them if that means you can get the rights now). Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 16:03, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Dreamy Jazz:, that would be awesome, thanks so much. UnitedStatesian (talk) 16:04, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- UnitedStatesian, Ok. The page which you would generate list from (using What Links Here) is User:Dreamy Jazz/PPD. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 16:07, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- UnitedStatesian. You are on the CheckPage. Are you going to remove the deletion notice in a run? Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 19:44, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
- I have done the run for you. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 17:18, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Dreamy Jazz:} thanks so much, sorry I didn't get to it. I am sure I will have the opportunity, as I have more WP:REFUND requests to submit shortly. UnitedStatesian (talk) 17:21, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
- I have done the run for you. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 17:18, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
- UnitedStatesian. You are on the CheckPage. Are you going to remove the deletion notice in a run? Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 19:44, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
- UnitedStatesian, Ok. The page which you would generate list from (using What Links Here) is User:Dreamy Jazz/PPD. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 16:07, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Dreamy Jazz:, that would be awesome, thanks so much. UnitedStatesian (talk) 16:04, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- UnitedStatesian There are 100 pages left now. Do you want to do them when you have WP:JWB or not? (I'm happy to leave them if that means you can get the rights now). Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 16:03, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- UnitedStatesian, Ah. I see the problem. Forgot the shortcut. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 16:00, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Pulp and paper companies of Turkey
A tag has been placed on Category:Pulp and paper companies of Turkey requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. DannyS712 (talk) 08:56, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
About your proposal to add Charles Dickens in WT:VA
It contains a spelling error: cutural should be cultural.--RekishiEJ (talk) 11:48, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you so much for letting me know! I have fixed it. UnitedStatesian (talk) 14:19, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
About #hashtag articles
Should this really be in the mainspace? It isn't an article and so shouldn't it be in a help namespace? Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 19:37, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
- It is in the main namespace so that it will appear when a user types # in the searchbox. There is a related discussion going on at Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2019_April_26##willpower. UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:01, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
- It should not be in article space. That's not where we keep help info. --Tagishsimon (talk) 20:57, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of #hashtag articles
A tag has been placed on #hashtag articles requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:
some sort of instruction / help mistakenly created in article space.
Under the criteria for speedy deletion, pages that meet certain criteria may be deleted at any time.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Tagishsimon (talk) 20:55, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
#hashtag articles listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect #hashtag articles. Since you had some involvement with the #hashtag articles redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Tagishsimon (talk) 21:15, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
About removing speedy deletion tags
Hello,
I noticed you removed the speedy deletion tag from Wikipedia:#hashtag articles (diff). Although I understand the speedy deletion wasn't valid (as it did not seem to say why it met one or more of the criteria for speedy deletion), you shouldn't have removed it as you were the page creator (and I think you do know that). I don't mean this as any warning etc., but it is meant to be a friendly reminder that the administrators will check the talk page first and also check the rationale before deletion.
Again, this isn't meant as a warning, but just as a friendly reminder. Happy editing, Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 21:56, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
- I actually didn't realize one should not remove speedy tags from pages one created; can you point me to that guidance? Thanks in advance! UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:58, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
- UnitedStatesian, see WP:CSD. It says
The creator of a page may not remove a speedy deletion tag from it. Only an editor who is not the creator of a page may do so.
Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 22:08, 27 April 2019 (UTC)- Ah, I see that now: it is even in bold. Learn something new every day! Thanks again. UnitedStatesian (talk) 22:40, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
- UnitedStatesian, see WP:CSD. It says
Falsely attributed revision
I received a notification saying a revision of mine to the Bee Gees article had been reverted [by you], but I did not make this revision. I previously noticed the change when I was notified of it (since I'm watching the page), and how inappropriate it was, but not that I was supposed to have made it. I'm changing my password and hope this will suffice to avoid further occurrences of such misattribution (there was another in the last couple of days, which I did not make and never would have), but I'm not sure it will since whoever's doing this might be within Wikipedia itself and thus presumably have access to my new password as well. In any event I regret the inappropriate change even though I didn't make it myself. –Roy McCoy (talk) 03:46, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
Please stop making revisions to this page. The only way that topic becomes a featured topic is if 10 of its articles are either featured articles or featured lists. Articles can't simply be removed as you did here to make it have 2/3 featured articles.--十八 10:18, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
Frogs port
I noticed that all of the selected pictures at Portal:Frogs/Selected picture are identical. Not sure why this is the case, as each separate selected image page should have a different image, rather than the same one. North America1000 21:56, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Northamerica1000: don't know either, I'll check it out. Thanks for the heads up. UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:57, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
- I noticed that you're working on it. While you're at the pages, would you mind removing the word "Description", and if present "Photo credit: name" for the image credit? It would really help out. At MfD people are complaining a lot about incomplete matters in portals. Regardless, since you're already working on the pages, it would save me the time of having to go and then make the corrections after you perform the fixes. North America1000 01:49, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
- Also, please consider holding off on portal page moves. I just spent around two hours or so fixing Portal:Mesopotamia after your series of page moves of Portal:Ancient Near East to the Mesopotamia portal, and it's very tedious. The subpage formatting was all mussed up. North America1000 01:52, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
- Could you please consider holding off on what appears to be your planned move of Portal:Library and information science? Again, other page moves you have performed is breaking portals. Sorry, and it's really not my thing to tell people what to do (hence the "please consider"), but I'm concerned at this point that in the process of breaking portals, you are also making them much more susceptible for nomination at MfD. Some users don't look into the history of portals at MfD, often only basing !votes upon what's immediately seen. I also don't want to have to spend hours performing fixes after hasty portal page moves. Hope you understand. North America1000 01:59, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry to inundate, but your page move of the main Creating Portal:Ancient Near East/Key topic page and its subpages to Portal:Mesopotamia/Key topic and those subpages has left all 21 entries broken, with redlinks reading, "Portal:Ancient Near East/Key topic/Layout". So, I'm going to fix this now too. Please stop moving pages around if you're not going to fix them in the process. North America1000 02:15, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Northamerica1000:, thanks for cleaning up my mess; I unexpectedly got called away mid-cleanup or would normally have spent the hours needed to do it on all the portals myself (as I did previously for Portal:Business, Portal:Human sexuality, Portal:Mathematical analysis, several others), and will do it more quickly on any future moves. I think your concern is overdone, as none of the post-move Portals has been brought to MfD while the cleanup is in process. I still think moving to a broader topic is a good idea, and think a move to Portal:Libraries is the one that makes the most sense to do next. Are you ok with my doing that, along with all the necessary cleanup, given my above commitment? UnitedStatesian (talk) 10:58, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
- I would prefer for the portal to stay as Portal:Library and information science. It's a broader topic in this format, whereas changing the topic to the narrower Library portal will lessen it's scope. The proof is in the categories:
- Select [►] to view subcategories
- Select [►] to view subcategories
- At MfD, people are more for the broadest scope stuff staying around, and are eagerly wanting to delete narrower scope stuff. North America1000 11:08, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
- I disagree; the categories are not a good indicator of scope. We have had libraries for nearly 3,000 years; both of the sciences are much more recent inventions. And information sceince overlaps with Portal:Information technology, which goes against WP:POG's prohibition of redundancy. I will eventually take it to MfD at its current name. UnitedStatesian (talk) 11:24, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
- Nb. I have declined the G6 for the Portal:Libraries page again, as this is not non-controversial, in my view. I have commented at Portal talk:Library and information science, which is the preferred arena, so others can see what is occurring, and for the chance for others to opine. North America1000 07:42, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- I disagree; the categories are not a good indicator of scope. We have had libraries for nearly 3,000 years; both of the sciences are much more recent inventions. And information sceince overlaps with Portal:Information technology, which goes against WP:POG's prohibition of redundancy. I will eventually take it to MfD at its current name. UnitedStatesian (talk) 11:24, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
Page moves
- I don't have time right now to address the Libraries matter. I have spent around 10 hours of my editing time now fixing the errors you have created all over the place by your page moves, and I am still finding more. You did not update the links on many, many of the pages, which I have been working on. At this point, your page moves are significantly disrupting Wikipedia. For example, at Portal:Monarchy, it was all lit up with red links on the main portal page after your page moves. This is not how Wikipedia is supposed to work. So, I have to request that you please follow the instructions at WP:MOVEPORTAL and have an administrator perform the page moves, because I will not be able to continuously spend hours fixing the hundreds of errors you have been creating. North America1000 14:06, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
- I restored that Royalty cat at Portal:Monarchy, in part because most of the content in the actual portal is about Royalty. You simply changed the title of the portal, but it was changed from Portal:Royalty, which most of the content is about. These page moves are also causing problems in that you're trying to change their topical scope too much, and way too fast. North America1000 14:19, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
- If Royalty is under Monarchy (it is) and Royalty's full tree can be viewed by clicking on the arrow next to Royalty (it can) what is the value of repeating the entire Royalty tree a second time? UnitedStatesian (talk) 14:23, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
- Go look at the subpages I have been fixing. The content is mostly about royalty, royal subjects, palaces, etc. There is very little about actual governance. This is another reason why the page moves are very problematic. You're changing the topical scope, but not adding additional content to subpages about the more specific topic. Readers go to the page and it's full of information about royalty. It would be misleading to omit the Royalty category at this time per all of this. People will see only the Monarchy category and wonder why it is not particularly matching the content of the page, other than in a subcat amongst many. North America1000 14:35, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
- Take a look at Portal:Monarchy/Featured biography, the subpages of which I am fixing right now per the page moves you have performed; a bunch of red links. The portal's focus is on royalty at this time. Changing the name does not change all of the content. North America1000 14:39, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
- If Royalty is under Monarchy (it is) and Royalty's full tree can be viewed by clicking on the arrow next to Royalty (it can) what is the value of repeating the entire Royalty tree a second time? UnitedStatesian (talk) 14:23, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
- I restored that Royalty cat at Portal:Monarchy, in part because most of the content in the actual portal is about Royalty. You simply changed the title of the portal, but it was changed from Portal:Royalty, which most of the content is about. These page moves are also causing problems in that you're trying to change their topical scope too much, and way too fast. North America1000 14:19, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
- Are you going to be able to fix the errors at Portal:Frogs/Selected picture, or per WP:MOVEPORTAL, should I post the request at Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests? North America1000 14:54, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
- That was not a problem created by the move: when it was at Portal:Frogs and toads it had a single selected picture repeated every time. UnitedStatesian (talk) 14:57, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
- All right. After spending hours fixing hundreds of errors you created, it's kind of easy to assume. At any rate, hopefully you're not angry or anything. You haven' thanked me or anything for the serious time I have spent to fix your errors. You don't have to, of course, it's just different. If it were me, I'd be thanking a person and helping out to correct my own errors. North America1000 15:03, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, thank you. I have been helping out too of course, and am happy to fix any errors you bring to my attention if you give me a chance to. UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:06, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
- Hey, thanks, just trying to let you know that I'm not much into ordering people around and all of that. Difficult to express exactingly in short notes, and I'm getting tired at this time. North America1000 15:10, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, thank you. I have been helping out too of course, and am happy to fix any errors you bring to my attention if you give me a chance to. UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:06, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
- All right. After spending hours fixing hundreds of errors you created, it's kind of easy to assume. At any rate, hopefully you're not angry or anything. You haven' thanked me or anything for the serious time I have spent to fix your errors. You don't have to, of course, it's just different. If it were me, I'd be thanking a person and helping out to correct my own errors. North America1000 15:03, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
- After your page moves, almost all of the subpages listed at Portal:Zoos/Selected picture and Portal:Zoos/Selected article are broken with red links instead of content. North America1000 15:29, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
- Done Note: Portal:Zoos/Selected article/3 never existed. UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:39, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
- Listing here to denote, in the event you can chip in to fix errors. At Portal:Human sexuality/Selected article, all of the listed subpages are broken after your page moves. North America1000 15:38, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
- Done Via a hack; I will go back and do the real correction within 24 hours. UnitedStatesian (talk) 17:13, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
- Portal:Tamils/Selected article and Portal:Tamils/Selected biography: all broken. North America1000 15:51, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
- All broken: Portal:Hellenism (religion)/Selected biography and Portal:Hellenism (religion)/Selected article
Cats in the Sandbox
Hello, and thanks for the tip. I noticed I'm now listed as having pictures from Wikimedia Commons. Is there a fix for this? Thanks Davidlwinkler (talk) 13:51, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Davidlwinkler: I don't know; suggest you go to Wikipedia:Help desk. UnitedStatesian (talk) 17:58, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
- Much obliged. Thanks (talk) 08:28 May 2019 (UTC)
Hiya, I noticed you previously WP:PRODed Softwin. I had nominated it for deletion. If you are interested, please chime in at the article. --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 15:53, 6 May 2019 (UTC)