Talk:ISO 3166-2

I don't understand the "one-letter" thing. Can't do much with one letter, huh? And there are no one-letter names in this list?

1 letter

EC, TM, VE

1 and 2 letter

ES, MY, SE

e.g. SE-BD Norrbottens län, SE-C Uppsala län

1 letter for regions, 2 letter for capital

KG

1 letter for capital, 2 letter for departments

RO

jaknouse 02:55 May 6, 2003 (UTC)

1 letter means that subdivisions have one letter. I looked in ISO and at Unece to find the subdivisions. User:Tobias Conradi

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Moved from User talk:Tim Starling

Out of curiosity, why are you removing all those ISO posts? Kingturtle 06:21 May 6, 2003 (UTC)

Because they're ugly. They make me want to throw up. Save them for some obscure list where I don't have to look at them.-- Tim Starling 06:24 May 6, 2003 (UTC)

And the NSW in New South Wales (NSW) is nice? Are You the master of the world that we have to care whether YOU find them ugly? Maybe we can put them to another place. Table is not very usefull.

Yes, NSW is nice. No, I'm not the master of the world, I'm the master of my edit button. My sense of style is just as important as anyone else's, but I intend to boldly revert ugly additions, especially ones made to Australia-related pages. And please log on to protect your anonymity, Deutsche Telekom user. -- Tim

I agree. Please do not delete them. Just find a better place for them. Kingturtle 06:32 May 6, 2003 (UTC)

I didn't delete them. They're still on the web if you want to find them. We can find a better place for them, but not in the intro paragraph of an article like New South Wales or, even worse, Hidalgo. -- Tim Starling 06:37 May 6, 2003 (UTC)

The stubs definitely have to go. Kingturtle 06:39 May 6, 2003 (UTC)

I agree. But that the Australian codes are now on a page that is called list of capitals of subnational entities, is not a good solution. I don't know where to put lists, but nevertheles if a page for a entity exist, it should contain the ISO 3166-2 code, like it is on country pages with the TLDs/ISO 3166-1 codes.

I'm listing the stubs on VFD. It will take a few more minutes to find them all... -- Tim Starling 06:51 May 6, 2003 (UTC)

it were only mexican. i would like to help, i found: Mexican Federal District, Durango_State,Sinaloa, Nuevo Leon,Mexico_State,Hidalgo,Tamaulipas

Thanks, but I already found them. See Wikipedia:Votes for deletion. Let's continue this discussion on Talk:ISO 3166-2.

I don't know where you want to put the ISO 3166-2 codes for subnational entities without a summary table. You could create tables for those states and add the code -- that would probably be the best solution. Or you could create a set of pages listing the codes for all states—almanac-style. Use your imagination. By the way, I'm not the boss of Wikipedia. You wouldn't be breaking the rules as such by simply adding all the codes back in, the way you originally put them. An edit war would probably result, and we'd probably reach a compromise. Don't be intimidated -- you have as much right to your opinion as I do. -- Tim Starling 07:31 May 6, 2003 (UTC)

On pages for German, Canadian or US States there are tables were it is easy to put the code in the page. I.e. at Bavaria one can find the code for Bavaria, like on Australian Dollar one can find the ISO 4217 currency code AUD. Why not finding the ISO subdivision code on a page for New South Wales?

The Australian states don't have tables because we haven't got around to doing it yet. You can do it if you want. The key difference between Australian dollar and New South Wales is that currency codes are more important than ISO 3166-2 codes. I have never seen the ISO 3166-2 codes for Australian states before now, but I have seen "Australian dollar" abbreviated to AUD many times. ISO 3166-2 codes are far less important than the postal abbreviations NSW, VIC, ACT, etc. This is why I can't accept putting the ISO 3166-2 codes in the first paragraph, because only the most important facts go there. As a compromise, I might accept having the ISO codes at the end of the article. However, I would prefer to see the ISO codes hidden by putting them in a table or list of other data. -- Tim Starling 09:33 May 6, 2003 (UTC)

I see Your point. One advantage of having it directly in each state page, is that one can have a look what links to ISO 3166-2 and find all ISO 3166-2 related pages. Thanks for offering the compromise. Good that I added the info, wasn't it? Now You learnt that ISO 3166-2 for your country exists ;-). Well, the first place in the first paragraph was not right. Will You add the information? Maybe it is better if You do it. -- Tobias Conradi 15:18 May 6, 2003 (UTC)

Yes, I'll add it. You've inspired me to make some US-style tables for the Australian states. I should have them finished within a day or two. -- Tim Starling 23:46 May 6, 2003 (UTC)

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According to http://www.mindspring.com/~gwil/umx.html: ``International standard ISO 3166-2 was published on December 15, 1998. It superseded ISO/DIS 3166-2 (draft international standard). For Mexico, the draft standard showed 31 states and one federal district. The final standard shows the same divisions and the same codes, except for the federal district. The code for Distrito Federal has been changed from D.F to DIF.

I have revised this page accordingly. 192.203.205.129 06:33 May 7, 2003 (UTC)