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Nintendo System Photographing

Is it allowed on Wikipedia for anyone to take a picture of a Nintendo system they own and use it as the photo on its wikiLBDCOM12 (talk) 19:58, 10 May 2019 (UTC) page?

@LBDCOM12: yes. SSSB (talk) 20:16, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

@LBDCOM12:. I'm going to differ from what SSSB posted and say "maybe" because proper image use on Wikipedia is often quite complicated. There may be copyright issues involved when it comes to taking a photo of something created by someone else and physically owning the object (even if you purchased it) doesn't necessarily mean that you own the copyright on it. For example, purchasing a Nintendo game cartridge gives you ownership over the actual plastic cartridge itself, but not ownership over the intellectual or creative content of the game; for example, you don't own the in-game imagery or computer code which makes it a game, or the imagery that appears on the cartridge's packaging. There are actually some countries (the United States is one) where things such as as toys or product packaging are considered to be eligible for copyright protection.

Wikipedia's and Wikimedia Common's licensing requirements pretty much require that any image files uploaded for use in articles be 100% freely licensed without any restrictions (see Wikipedia:Copyrights#Guidelines for images and other media files and c:Commons:Licensing for more on this), but basically you cannot upload someone else's copyrighted content without their explicit consent to do so. Wikipedia does, unlike Wikimedia Commons, allow copyrighted content to be uploaded as non-free content, but there are lots of restrictions placed on how it can be used.

Now, even if there are no copyright issues which need to be dealt with, there still may be contextual or editorial issues which need to be resolved. So, whether the photo should then be added to a Wikipedia article is a different question which might be unrelated to its copyright status. For example, there may already be a sufficient number of photos used in the article and other editors might think that adding another one is not an improvement; moreover, if you remove an existing photo just to add your photo, then that might unintentionally lead to the deletion of the other image. So, like adding textual content, trying to add images to articles can lead to disagreements over content and you may need to establish a consensus to make such an addition per Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:02, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

I wanted to just change the picture on the New Nintendo 2ds Xl's page, because the current one is poor quality. Would that be allowed?LBDCOM12 (talk) 15:18, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

@LBDCOM12: I'm not seeing the difference between the old image and the one you uploaded on New Nintendo 2DS XL, except that on yours the buttons are clearer, and there's no flash showing. I would have instead uploaded the image to replace the old image, but you'll be notified if there are any issues. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 01:04, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

inexperience with at Templates at baffling issue at Talk:Tom Elliott (radio personality)

I am confused as how to move forward at Talk:Tom Elliott (radio personality) as a variety of issues appear to be arising. X1\ (talk) 19:52, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

X1\, that article provides little evidence that its subject is notable. It has four references: one is to an article he wrote himself, two give "404" messages, and one gives a "DNS failure" message. Unless someone can provide better sources to establish that he's notable, the article is likely to be deleted, making that rather incoherent talk page discussion irrelevant. Maproom (talk) 22:19, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

@X1\: I agree with Maproom. I've just spent 15 minutes chasing round the internet to replace one dead link in a rather poor citation about his early life, half of which isn't supported by anything written within the source. If you then can't take enough care to add new sources to further content you want to either add or reinstate about his opinions (which I think Onetwothreeip removed) by supplying links that actually work, I'm not sure we can help you move anything forward. Fix those first. It does look like you've now received a third opinion. Further views on the article as a whole could then be offered if someone wants to put it forward for a Deletion discussion. I'm not sure it merits retention unless you can significantly improve the page with better content and better inline citations to independent sources to demonstrate that he meets WP:NBIO. It seems his claim to fame is as a minor presenter on a small commercial radio station in Melbourne, based upon one story in the city newspaper which originally created that radio station. Nick Moyes (talk) 22:48, 12 May 2019 (UTC)  

@Maproom and Nick Moyes: Well this has never happened to me on Wikipedia before and this is seriously concerning. I was in an editing dispute with X1\ at Timeline of Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections and found to my surprise that after I had removed some not notable opinions from Tom Elliott (radio personality), X1\ had somehow found themselves on this completely unrelated article provoking another editing dispute with me. I certainly thought that was odd, especially since this would not normally be an issue of any great contention, but then X1\ sought a "third opinion" on the matter and this was provided by none other than the editor who shares the same views with X1\ on the Russian interference article and who had likewise been reverting my edits there as well, My very best wishes. Unsurprisingly, they agreed with them and disagreed with me.

It would be fairly straightforward to provide diffs for this but this is very clear, and certainly worrying. Is this something that should be taken to WP:ANI? This has simply never happened to me before so I don't know what to do here. Onetwothreeip (talk) 00:12, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes and Maproom: Thank you both for your efforts. It would appear you both agree is there little evidence that its subject is notable, as I have questioned [1][2]. I will consider applying the Template:Article for deletion and attempting that process. Hopefully it goes better than the Template:Third opinion attempt. If it gets deleted then the "incoherent talk page discussion irrelevant"ness would be welcome. A suggestion on the articles Talk page that opinions are often directly requested in the "Active disagreements" section on the Wikipedia:Third opinion page maybe be a better route, if I remember that process. Also, I will consider the WP:RfC process.

@Maproom: regarding the "If you then can't take enough care..." comment, I was attempting to improve the Herald Sun item [3] when it was deleted [4]. I attempted to continue to improve it [5], but for the 3AW item I didn't get to the followup [6] to determine its viability, along with others [7] before the kerfuffle.

@Nick Moyes: the Wayback Machine sounds cool, and I'd like to learn more about its uses.

Well, thank you both again for the input; I'll continue on at the article. X1\ (talk) 00:22, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes and Maproom: Are you getting these notifications? What I outlined is fairly serious. Onetwothreeip (talk) 04:17, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Onetwothreeip: yes, I am getting the notifications. But I have no idea on what to do about the issue, or on whether involvement of WP:ANI would be appropriate. Maproom (talk) 07:32, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

@Onetwothreeip: I apologise for not responding (perhaps, rather unfairly) in the hope that the other editor might respond first! It looked a complex issue at first sight, and I would have to sit down at a laptop and work carefully through the editing histories and your diffs to properly understand and your concerns, the order of people's edits and then to determine what advice to give you, if any/ANI. I'm afraid I'm unable to commit to that right now, especially as I'm working from a mobile phone which makes complicated investigations a lot harder to manage. As Maproom says, you could ask at WP:ANI for an extra pair of eyes, or could continued monitoring and collating further diffs of unusual editing patterns. I will try and take a look for you myself in a few days time when I can get to a PC, and will say 'sorry' again for not at least giving you the courtesy of the response you deserved from a Teahouse Host. I did remember noting that the third opinion given by another editor did appear to come from one of long standing, and would probably have offered it in all good faith, maybe checking your and the other editor's recent edits and/or disputes, and commenting again there. Following up after resolving one editing dispute by looking at other edits is a common practice that any competent editor might be expected to do, so there's not necessarily anything suspicious, per se, in that. Regards for now, Nick Moyes (talk) 08:59, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

I completely understand if others are unable or simply unwilling to read into the details here and I don't presume that I'm entitled to any particular person's attention or effort. I think to be completely expeditious about this, how would you feel to respond to my characterisation of the situation and assume for this purpose that it's correct?

There have been editing disputes on a certain article in which myself, X1\ and another editor who I will call Editor M have been involved in, among others. In this case the other editor has the same views as X1\. I had also edited another article of a completely different topic for the first time. This was subsequently reversed by X1\, who had edited this article for the first time. It appeared at least very coincidental that this happened. An editing dispute ensued and X1\ decided to ask for a "third opinion". This never reached the third opinion noticeboard. The "third opinion" was then provided by the Editor M from the first article, which agreed with X1\. This appears to be too much of a coincidence to be reasonable.

For these reasons I can't believe that this was at all in good faith, or at least without prejudice. They have also been very dramatic on my user talk page, asserting to myself and to an administrator that they have "warned" me many times of spurious issues. If this is an editor of good standing then that would certainly concur with the precedent that to be in good standing only means that an editor isn't currently blocked from editing.

Most of all I am uneasy about initiating a proceeding at WP:ANI if I would otherwise be advised that this should be avoided. I also do not feel that you or anybody in particular is obligated to respond to my query. Onetwothreeip (talk) 10:01, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Look, you asked for a third opinion on article talk page, and I provided you this opinion - because you asked. You should thank me. That was a reasonable opinion justified by policies. What's the problem? If I was more interested in this subject, I could edit this page or nominate it for deletion (the subject is someone barely notable), and all of that would be just fine. My very best wishes (talk) 18:32, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

That's absurd, and I'm confused why you would lie about something so easily disprovable. I never asked for a third opinion, from you or from anybody. Would you like to explain how you became aware of that article? Furthermore, X1\ three hours ago reversed another edit of mine from January this year on another article that they haven't edited. This is very strange behaviour. Onetwothreeip (talk) 01:01, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

I saw this version of the page and thought it was you who requested 3rd opinion. Was it X1? OK, I am sorry, I did not study editing history of this page. My very best wishes (talk) 01:47, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Capitalization

There are 2 articles on proper capitalization on Wikipedia and they say opposite things. One is here and the other is here. Which is correct and who is supposed to keep it consistent? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zimm82 (talk • contribs)

Hi Zimm82, welcome to the Teahouse. In which way are they opposite? Are you trying to apply them to a specific case? Note that the first is about titles of external works mentioned by Wikipedia, e.g. books and films, while the other is about titles of Wikipedia articles. The rules are deliberately different for some things. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:21, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

I see you moved Criticism of United States foreign policy to Criticism of United States Foreign Policy. The sentence case rule for articles titles applies here so I have reverted the move. If the article had been about a specific book called "Criticism of United States Foreign Policy" then your move would have been correct. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:35, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

The video in the "casualties" section of "war on terror" here is an illegal leak from the US defense department. I'm sure there isn't a valid license for the copyright from the department of defense who is probably the legal owner of the video. I'm not sure where it's hosted but it should probably be deleted for copyright violation. I was going to ask on the talk page but so far no one has responded. I also don't know for a fact that the department of defense is the owner of the video but it probably is. Zimm82 (talk) 19:10, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

If the material was created by a federal employee as part of their duties—which it was—then it's uncopyrightable under US law. Whether the material in question is subsequently leaked has no bearing on its copyright status. There's a brief primer on why copyright isn't a factor when it comes to Wikileaks disseminating leaked US material here. ‑ Iridescent 19:17, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, I guess I should have googled it. Zimm82 (talk) 19:24, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Zimm82, you can also look at the page for an image or video hosted on the Commons to see what it says for permissions. In this case, see File:CollateralMurder.ogv. Schazjmd (talk) 19:27, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

On editing existing articles

I would like to edit an article but I am not sure how my edit(s) will be perceived. It has to do with the etymology of a word. There are several speculations but nothing is conclusive. Currently there is only one definition present in this wiktionary page and it does not include that we don't really know the etymology of the word. Should I start a conversation on the talk page before editing the main entry? Should I make the changes and then explain my reasoning on the talk page? Also currently on this wiktionary page there are no sources displayed. Should I ask for the reliable sources of the existing? Should I have reliable sources before doing anything else? What would you suggest?— Preceding unsigned comment added by PhantomPower48 (talk • contribs)

Hello PhantomPower48 and welcome to the TeaHouse. It would be better to ask this at Wiktionary:Information desk, as Wiktionary is a seperate project to Wikipedia. Thanks, Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 13:25, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Of course, thank you! --PhantomPower48 (talk) 14:06, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

... or Wiktionary:Tea room or Wiktionary:Etymology scriptorium for more technical questions. Dbfirs 17:04, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Error on revision history

Sometimes when I go back to the very last revision diffs on pages like Pedophilia and September 11th attacks (for example,https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?date-range-to=2001-09-13&tagfilter=&title=Pedophilia&action=history), it mistakenly shows the very first edit (aka the page creation) as eliminating bytes when creating a page actually creates bytes. Could it be because these pages deal with controversial topics as opposed to others? Sitbackplease (talk) 16:50, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi Sitbackplease, welcome to the Teahouse. Edits from 2001 are from before our current MediaWiki software started in 2002. Old edits are sometimes imported into the current MediaWiki database with some inconsistencies. The first shown edit in the Pedophilia page history may not actually have been the creation since many early Wikipedia edits are lost. The edit was imported in 2010 [8] and the shown "-48,353" is the difference to the article size at the time of the import. See also Wikipedia:Wikipedia's oldest articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:15, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Is Twinkle safe to use?

I have just got Autoconfirmed rights, and I read about TW (Twinkle) which is useful to edit faster, so what you think I should use it or should try Manual editing, For now, I'm learning Wiki markup to mention, create a custom sign, colors to table, and also reading about policy's about deleting and maintaining templates, also Notability about biographies Organisations and list related articles. what you think I should more focus on to learn more about Wikipedia editing? --WikiLover97 (talk) 17:49, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Twinkle is a great tool, though it's really meant for maintenance and other things. It doesn't do much to aid normal editing. It is a wonderful anti-vandalism tool though. It also makes tagging articles and deletion noms easier. I like it. Jeb³_{Talk at me here} 17:51, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

where do I get to see Recently created articles?

I want to contribute to Indian Films/Television related articles (Biographies preferred) Where do I get edit recently created articles on that particular topic basically "Indian Articles"? --WikiLover97 (talk) 17:59, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

User:AlexNewArtBot/IndiaSearchResult contains list of newly-created articles that are related to India in one way or the other. It's updated daily but it's not perfect and may contains false positive. – Ammarpad (talk) 18:35, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Published by mistake

I've been working on my first wikipedia entry - James Hall Brookes. In looking for how to save my draft, I inadvertently published it! Aack. Fortunately most of it is presentable, but there is one section still being worked on. How can this entry be un-published? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bueschermilligan (talk • contribs)

Hi,Bueschermilligan, Do not worry about that, I don't see any problem with the edit. There is really no way to "unpublish" once you saved the edit. If you accidentally saved something that you wish to remove, you can re-edit the page and removed that part or alter it. But while you're editing you can use "Show preview" button so as to see how your edit will looks like when saved. – Ammarpad (talk) 18:26, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

@Bueschermilligan: Also, "Publish" means "Save". Due to legal reasons with the license of the text, the save button was changed to say "Publish" instead. RudolfRed (talk) 18:28, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, @Ammarpad (talk) and @RudolfRed (talk) for your comments. So in the future, if I am editing an unpublished page, can I just close Wikipedia at the end of a work session and pick up the editing when I return? I was concerned that leaving Wikipedia at that stage would result in the loss of the work so far. Bueschermilligan (talk) 13:49, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

@Bueschermilligan: To save your editing you have to use the "publish" button. You may wish to use your own user sandbox (see upper right of any WP page) to create drafts before going live. You can also create multiple user drafts by just searching on User:(your user name)/(your article title) and creating the page. These will remain in your user space until you move them to mainspace. RobDuch (talk) 23:47, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

new Wiki article not coming up in Google search

Hello

So I just moved an article draft from my sandbox into main namespace. But then, when I did a Google search for it, the Wiki article does not come as one of the hits. Usually, the Wiki entry on a person is the first hit. How can I "fix" this, please? Here is a link to the new draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Potenza_(guitarist)

Thanks BahnJour9120 (talk) 18:34, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

This is because the page has not been reviewed by a new page reviewer. New articles are not indexed until after they are reviewed to make sure they conform to basic Wikipedia policies on content. Once it's reviewed, you'll be able to find it on Google search. – Ammarpad (talk) 18:39, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

It's worth saying that even when it has been reviewed, we have no control over how long Google actually takes to index it. --ColinFine (talk) 21:21, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Good to know. Thanks ColinFine BahnJour9120 (talk) 03:28, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

My First Article - concerns

Hi! I recently created my first article, O.C. Tanner (company) because I saw that it wasn't here on Wikipedia. I know that it is still a work in progress and that User:Theroadislong tagged it for various concerns, and I was wondering if I could get a third party to look at it. Know that I do not have a COI with the organization, but with several articles mentioning it, I thought it was notable enough to get its own article. Thanks! Rollidan (talk) 18:43, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Rollidan. I believe that the company is notable and that you have made a very good start. Keep improving it, and congratulations on your first article. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 18:50, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Mam Khanyi page creation

I have created a page about a South African social reformer I know and admire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khanyisile_Motsa_(Mam_Khanyi)

How do I get it checked for notability and published, please?

Also, I cannot upload a photo I took as Wiki cannot confirm my copyright. How do I confirm this?

Thanks (newbie question, I know, probably there is a FAQ but I can't find it.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tmcann (talk • contribs) 18:52, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

• @Tmcann: Since you have a conflict of interest, you should not have created Khanyisile Motsa (Mam Khanyi) directly in the mainspace. The reason is that it is hard to write neutrally in such cases, and I am afraid you did quite a poor job to comply with WP:NPOV here. Nonetheless, because the references show that person is clearly notable, I fixed the tone (at least partially, has helped thousands is still kinda WP:PEACOCK-y). In the future, please use the Articles for Creation process.

Finally, please check WP:PAID and make the appropriate disclosure if necessary: if you receive any form of compensation for promoting that person on Wikipedia, disclosing a conflict of interest is not enough. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 08:48, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

How do I color my username at my Userpage?

I see that a lot editors have color in their signs, and also in their Username when I visit their profiles, I want to color my username (Not sign) Sign figured I can copy the source and make some changes according to my username and it can be fixed. --WikiLover97 (talk) 18:39, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Someone deleted my question

here is the revision history please restore it :) --WikiLover97 (talk) 18:55, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

I have restored the question but I see you worked it out [9] after help on your talk page. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:39, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Completed Article

Hello, i created a page for Sample Injection Methods in maass spectrometer some days ago. But when i type in the keywords on google, the wikipedia page does not come up. I have to use the link before i and others can get to the page Olisaayodeji (talk) 19:00, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

@Olisaayodeji: Welcome to Wikipedia, and thanks for wanting to make it better. Link: Sample_inlet_system_of_mass_spectrometer. New pages are not indexed by search engines until they have been reviewed by a new page patroller or until it is 90 days old, whichever comes first. RudolfRed (talk) 19:43, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Links

Hello! I would like to help some articles that I read that could have more links. For instance, "Wikipedia Elvis Christmas".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_Christmas

There are wikipedia articles about some of the songs that don't have links in the article. I searched, for instance, for 10. "I Believe" and found a Wikipedia article about the song. Elvis is mentioned in the article. I would like to help. If it is necessary to create a special article, just about Elvis and the song, the article I found has enough information to do it. Or maybe the link could just direct to the article about the song. Anyway, it is better than leaving the song without a link, isn't it?

Another point: there is an article about Mimi Stillman, a famous flutist and it has a link to an outside article... Well, this link was "stolen" to advertise a product that has nothing to do with Dante, or music. I would like to tell the people that have written the article about this "stolen link". How can I do it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimi_Stillman

In the SELECTED PUBLICATIONS there is this link: Mimi Stillman, The Music of Dante's Purgatorio, Hortulus: The Online Graduate Journal of Medieval Studies 1, no. 1 (2005): 13-21. If you follow it, it will go to this: http://www.hortulus.net/ - And the article is from another Hortulus that has stolen the link, I believe, because I saw this happen at another page about Dante, not Wikipedia: Diagnosing Cataracts POSTED ON MAY 22, 2018 (!!!)

This are my questions. I don't know how to do these things. Warm regards from Brazil, Tancredo Braga — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tan Neto (talk • contribs) 19:23, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

First of all @Tan Neto:, please dont forget to "sign" your posts with 4 tildes, so we know what your username is.

Re the Elvis album- sometimes an album may be notable enough for an article, but that doesn't mean every song on it will be. Actually, with only one amazon link as a reference, it is not at all clear that the rereleased Christmas double CD album itself is notable.

About the Mimi Stillman article, I managed to find an earlier version of the journal page archived via the Wayback machine (before it was highjacked/stolen) and linked to that. As it was not a reference, if there had not been any earlier versions available, I would have just deleted the link. Normally, for reference links, you should try and find a replacement/mark it as dead as per WP:DEADLINK. Curdle (talk) 03:43, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

new to wikipedia please help

Hello, there, I created a page to write about Mundo Hispánico (a US Latino newspaper). I submitted that article under Mundo Hispánico user and It was declined. I am trying to have it approved now under my username (I just created my own username ArgieAtl19) Also, I need to know where I have to disclaim that I was hired to write that article. One more thing, I wondered if I can chat with Robert McClennon (he was the editor reviewing the page) or the editor is assigned randomly? Thanks in advance for your help. Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MundoHispanico#May_2019

Welcome to Wikipedia, and thanks for wanting to respect the rules for paid editing. Please read WP:PAID for the disclosure requirements. RudolfRed (talk) 21:05, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

You can create a comment on Robert's Talk page. You were given some guidance as part of the draft being declined. Articles for Creation are not so much assigned, as rather, a reviewing editor looks at the list and picks an article If you resubmit, very likely a different editor will provide a review. David notMD (talk) 23:50, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Possible vandalism

I have noted an IP address account that seems to me to be only engaged in vandalism. This IP account made edits primarily in March to May 2017, March 2018, October 2018, and now has made two edits today (14 May 2019). Both of today's edits seem to be silly vandalism, and one has already been reverted.

I read that the first step in dealing with such an editor is warning. I don't know exactly how to do this, and I'd like some guidance. Also, is it meaningful to warn someone about vandalism done long ago? (I haven't confirmed that all vandalism edits have been reverted.) Jkgree (talk) 23:31, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

@Jkgree: See the vandalism section at WP:WARN for the template to apply to the user's talk page. For vandalism that is not recent, no need to warn them now, particularly with an IP address that may get reassigned to many different people. RudolfRed (talk) 00:08, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

I went to the user's (IP) talk page, and lo and behold, this user has been warned in March 2017 (considered unreliable source), March 2018 (not constructive AND stop destructive editing; blocked 1 week AND "you may be blocked from editing without further warning"), Sept. 2018 (not constructive), Oct. 2018 (undone by ClueBot), and finally, 14 May 2019 (not constructive). Is this ready to go to another level? Jkgree (talk) 13:57, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

It may not be ready for that. Some IP "users" are computers at secondary educational institutions, where vandalism is sometimes the norm. The user Talk page may have warnings addressed to more than one human user. Given the time gap between infractions, it would be practical to issue a first-level warning. --Quisqualis (talk) 21:10, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

I placed a note on Ifnord's talk page, since Ifnord was the one to add a first-level warning on 14 May. I checked and apparently the IP address is registered to the Mobile County (AL) Public School System. Jkgree (talk) 18:59, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Stuck at Wikipedia Adventure mission 6 (civility badge)

I am stacking at Wikipedia Adventure mission 6 (civility badge). I already tried inserting the two paragraphs that are given but nothing happen. Any help would be appreciated.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kmsppwa (talk • contribs) 01:24, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

@Kmsppwa: Make sure you use the Adventure Helper,and check that you have completed all the steps. If it is a glitch, then you should log out and reset your device, then pick up where you left off. Warning: If you log out your progress will be lost in previous levels, but you will still keep the badges you earned, so ask yourself whether it is worth it. Eclipsefc (talk) 04:47, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

@Kmsppwa: Welcome to the Teahouse. I'm really sorry to hear you've got stuck on one of the Missions. I do remember a roughly similar problem when I did it quite some while ago. I do know that the 'Adventure' doesn't work well on a mobile device, so is best done from a laptop or PC.(there are some notes about this on the front page of the Wikipedia Adventure intro screen. I also remember having to search right down extremely low on one page (I can't now remember which page), either for a link or a 'continue' button which was not at all obvious. Do please let us know how you get on and where the problem lay - this will help us assist future new editors. Once you get right to the end you should finish up with fifteen different badges on your userpage. You'll also find you've now got repeated "Welcome to The Wikipedia Adventure!" messages left on your Talk page each time you resatart the 'Adventure'. Feel free to remove the duplicates (or indeed all of them, if you don't want them there). Personally, I like seeing that new editors like you have undertaken the Adventure as it shows me they've taken the time and trouble to get to understand Wikipedia. I do welcome you here, and if we can ever help in the future, don't hesitate to drop by with more good questions. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 07:52, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Discussing Edit With a User Who Uses IP Address Only?

I noticed that an editor identifiable by only an IP address removed a controversial section of an article, stating that the content was untrue and not necessary. The content was extensively cited; as to whether it was necessary is a matter of opinion. As I believe the content is relevant, objective, and informative, I would like to revert the deletion. To avoid an edit war, I would like to engage with the editor on the article's talk page to discuss. Discussing it on the article's talk page is more appropriate than discussing it on the user's talk page, correct? Is it possible to "ping" a user editing with only an IP address? I'm not sure how to contact this person to let him/her know I would like to engage in a discussion. Thank you for your guidance. LandLubber56 (talk) 01:43, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Without pinging, you could comment at the article's talk, and leave a short note at the IP's Talk. David notMD (talk) 02:10, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you. That makes sense. I wasn't sure of logistics. LandLubber56 (talk) 02:22, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

How to create a page about my company

I just created a new account with you. I already wrote an article about my company, but it says that this article may not conform with Wikipedia guidelines. Can you please help me on how to create a page about my company?

Wram regards, Alya kollar — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alya Kollar (talk • contribs) 07:34, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

There are a few pages you need to read. First, is your company notable in Wikipedia's terms (roughly speaking, do multiple independent sources regard your company as worth writing about), see WP:NOTABLE. Second, you must declare a conflict of interest, see WP:COI. Finally you must declare paid editing, see WP:PAID. Failure to follow any one of these may result in the article being deleted with a consequent waste of everyone's time.

One other point: please sign edits on talk pages by adding four tildes (~~~~) to the end. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 07:54, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Yet another point, Alya Kollar. If at some point Wikipedia has an article about your company, it will not be your article, you will not control its contents, you will be discouraged from editing it directly (though you will be welcome to suggest edits) and almost 100% of the article should be derived not from you or the company, but from what people who have no connection to the company have chosen to publish about it. Promotion of any kind is forbidden on Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 15:42, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

RFC help

Talk:Falun_Gong

I have added an RFC twice and it has been removed twice. I have read and re-read the RFC rules and cannot understand what I am doing wrong. can someone please tell me how i am not formatting it correctly? 175.36.91.0 (talk) 07:36, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

In the first one, you did not add a RfC category to the {{rfc}} tag, nor was there any statement between the {{rfc}} tag and the timestamp. Both of these are required by WP:RFCST, and their omission had this effect.

In the second one, you again omitted category and statement; and also omitted a timestamp. The omission of all three had this effect.

You have now made a third attempt, and whilst this one has categories (some people might consider four to be excessive, but we'll let it pass) and a statement, it lacks a timestamp (with this effect) and also violates WP:RFCBRIEF in that it contains a table. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 14:50, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

can you all give an example of one that you personally will find acceptable and agree on the format? There is no single agreed on format and I have seen my previously used formats used without objection before. I used the exact one from the talk:Santa Claus which you have not objected to. orders of magnitude. by this i mean, 60 000= 6*10^4 and 100 million= 1*10^8. its a way of comparing values. you write it in scientific notation format then compare the exponents. in this case 8-4=4. 4 orders of magnitude.

175.36.91.0 (talk) 16:20, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

It's not a case of me finding it acceptable. The RfC listings are maintained by Legobot (talk · contribs), which cannot handle certain kinds of misformatting. I didn't object to Talk:Santa Claus#rfc_B438326 because Legobot let its opening statement through without a problem, and that in turn was because WhatamIdoing (talk · contribs) included a strategically-placed tiomestamp, before all the complex stuff began. You didn't include a timestamp, and so you didn't use the exact format. Also, I don't see what orders of magnitude have to do with anything.

Have a look at WP:RFC/A: the ones with text after the heading are the ones that made it through Legobot's processing. The best are the ones where the statement is neutral and brief and do not use excessive formatting like tables (which always break the listing), lists and references. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:56, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Note that this appears to be a banned user; am leaving a message on ANI to sort it out. Cleopatran Apocalypse (talk) 19:32, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

In case requests for help with formatting RFCs are common here at the Teahouse, the hosts might like to know that Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Example formatting has the instructions for multiple formatting options. The table approach is definitely the pickiest about its formatting (but particularly useful when two editors want "their" argument to be The One™ at the top of the RFC section). Most people are best off with the simplest and most popular option (which is the first one on the page). WhatamIdoing (talk) 01:00, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Creating a Netflix Original Indian Film

Hi, Netflix Today Launched the poster of Chopsticks Film See Here for the google result, and here for the poster update, I'm asking because I think the film needs to have an article on wikipedia, it's not there yet, I want to create, all I'm asking is is the film notable enough to have an article ? so that I'll get started! --WikiLover97 (talk) 08:11, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Oops Sorry Article is there Chopsticks (2019 film) I'll edit there directly --WikiLover97 (talk) 08:28, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

@WikiLover97: See WP:NFILM for notability guidelines for films. RudolfRed (talk) 17:49, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Article Declination

Recently i create an article for publish,it was about movie but rejected don't know why???

can anybody tell me about the Reasons of article declination??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sher dil 2019 (talk • contribs) 09:48, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Have you read the big pink box at the top of the article? There's a reason why and a link to the appropriate Wikipedia guideline in it. It was declined because it was not notable. - X201 (talk) 10:04, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

The draft in the user's sandbox: User:Sher dil 2019/sandbox/sher dil 2019. --CiaPan (talk) 10:28, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Good article

How do I create a good article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Papi Paul Poeme (talk • contribs) 11:55, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Papi Paul Poeme! Creating a good article from scratch is a worthy goal, but it's a huge undertaking for a new user. Start learning Wikipedia policy and make hundreds of small improvements to current articles first. Keep an eye on the changes you make to see how other editors react -- do they revert your edits? If so, learn the policy behind those reverts. Once you feel you thoroughly understand how to edit, keep an eye out for articles that seem to be missing -- redlinks are a good clue -- and that interest you. Then start writing the article in your sandbox, and when you get it to the best you can, ask another experienced editor to take a look and give you some feedback. When it's ready, move it to draft space and submit it to Articles for Creation. Once it's undergone that process, you can start trying to make sure it fits all the good article criteria, and then you can submit it for Good Article review. One way to get started on this process is to take the Wikipedia:The_Wikipedia_Adventure new user tutorial. --valereee (talk) 13:45, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

A very basic must is picking a subject covered in plenty of reliable sources, see WP:GNG. If you pick a subject without coverage in reliable sources, you can't write an article about it on WP, good or otherwise. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:39, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

To date, your edits have been making a small change in an article, and then a few minutes later changing it back. If you want to experiment, copy content into your Sandbox and practice there. P.S. Administrators do not get paid for being administrators. David notMD (talk) 18:04, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Article contains content like an advert - help please

Hi and I am working on a Wiki page that has a top banner error message -

This article contains content that is written like an advertisement.

Does anybody know a quick fix / how to identify the words / terms that need changing to remove this please?

Kind regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moneyspyder (talk • contribs) 13:32, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

For convenience: Mastek --valereee (talk) 13:37, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

@Moneyspyder: You removed the template shortly after posting here without waiting for a response. The changes you made do not address the promotional tone found in the article, so I have restored it. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:32, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

As an example, {U|Moneyspyder}}, "delivering enterprise level digital transformation services and solutions" is meaningless marketing gobbledegook. What a Wikipedia article should do is say what they actually are or do, not this nonsense. --ColinFine (talk) 15:46, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Pinging again, because I got the ping wrong: Moneyspyder. --ColinFine (talk) 15:47, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Kunal Jaisingh protected for administrator

Hey, any admin here? there is this article Kunal Jaisingh I was searching for him today to add to check about his marriage is updated or not, but it turned out that he doesn't even have the article, Can any admin unprotect it so that someone else can create He's one notable and passes all the criteria to have an Article, here are some References 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 all these references are about his just marriage if you google him you will get to know who he is. --WikiLover97 (talk) 14:19, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Even according to the second AFD subject is notable it's just that creator didn’t added sources so the result was delete. --WikiLover97 (talk) 14:24, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Have you considered creating Draft:Kunal Jaisingh, write it so it fulfills WP:GNG and then submit it for review? I think that would be allowed, am I correct RHaworth? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:36, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

That's correct; to WikiLover97, if you can address the reasons for deletion, you should use Articles for Creation to create and submit a draft. 331dot (talk) 14:42, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, but I'm new I don't have any experience in article creation, I never created I'll soon write my first article once I get sufficient experience in editing! though the draft concept is nice I'll wait for someone to create an article in the draft and then I'll make corrections in the main article. WikiLover97 (talk) 14:52, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

• Oh dear, what a sad response! WikiLover97 we are pointing you to draft space where life is a bit gentler. Dive in with both feet and create draft:Kunal Jaisingh - I deleted it but have not (yet) protected it. I have emailed you one state of the many deleted states of the mainspace article. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:33, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank You for the revision history, I have created an article with references, Please Review and Publish it. — WikiLover97 (talk) 16:17, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello there was no option to submit the draft, @RHaworth: @331dot: @Gråbergs Gråa Sång: so please consider this moving to the mainspace if it's within guidelines of Wikipedia. — WikiLover97 (talk) 16:23, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

• Submit button now provided. If it gets approved by a non-admin, come back to me and I will move it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:35, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Error, edit not saved

I’m trying to add a reference to my draft and this keeps popping up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AgentAndrew0 (talk • contribs) 17:12, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

AgentAndrew0 are you referring to Draft:Pappy Van Poodle? What reference are you trying to add to the article? --valereee (talk) 17:21, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Editing

What if I find something wrong according to my knowledge, can't I change that ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Muskan Ahmad (talk • contribs)

No. Information in an article must be cited to reliable sources so it can be verified by readers. See WP:RS and WP:REFB for how to identify a reliable source and provide citations. RudolfRed (talk) 18:25, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

@Muskan Ahmad: We don't consider original research, including one's own unpublished personal knowledge and experience, to be a reliable source. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 21:59, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

...however, in the case where the content is unsourced, it can be removed without a source to the contrary. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 15:31, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Can anyone help me with moving a draft to an article?

Hi, just finished my work on the Draft:Daniel Milo, and I would like to move it to an article. I'm an editor in the Hebrew wikipedia, and I don't have enough days as an English-Wikipedia editor to move it by myself. The Article should be called Daniel S. Milo (and not: Daniel Milo). Can anyone help? Thanks a lot, Aumora (talk) 18:22, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Courtesy link: Draft:Daniel_S._Milo RudolfRed (talk) 18:26, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

 Done Theroadislong (talk) 18:31, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! Dear RudolfRed,Theroadislong, is it an article now?

Still showing up as draft: Draft:Daniel S. Milo David notMD (talk) 00:03, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

It isn't submitted for review. That's not something we do. See WP:AFC. I'd suggest its sourcing needs work. Biographies of living people are covered by a very important policy called WP:BLP. One of its requirements is that all significant facts be sourced by inline citations yet there are whole sections with no sources at all. Not even going to suggest I'm capable of understanding the philosophy topics being discussed, but in comparison to other biographies, it seems unnecessarily long. Encyclopedia articles are supposed to summarize what others have written about the subject. That by definition means being concise. rchard2scout (talk) 02:50, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Aumora, I've added a template with a submit button to the top of the Draft. If you think it's done (and according to some others, it isn't yet - I haven't looked into it) you can click that button to submit the article for review. rchard2scout (talk) 10:54, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you dear rchard2scout, you have my appreciation. Thank you dear rchard2scout for your enlighten notes, I took it seriously. I think the draft is done, and we can start improve the article itself. A question: what is the meaning of review? Aumora (talk) 14:42, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello! New to Wikipedia!

Just want to introduce myself and ask for any beginner tips and tricks. Thanks! --Azurerae (talk) 18:27, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

@Azurerae: Welcome! Check out the tutorial at WP:TUTORIAL and also the interactive learning game at WP:ADVENTURE RudolfRed (talk) 18:36, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

@RudolfRed:Thanks! I actually have a question about an image. The author I'm working on has a Press Kit on her website with images for download. Where do I go to upload it. If I do it on the article page it asks if its my work...--Azurerae (talk) 18:52, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

@Azurerae: I'm afraid you would not be allowed to upload those images as, whilst they've been offered for use to the media, Kristen Ashley has not released them under an acceptable basis that would allow us to use them. And, as you recognise, they're not yours to give away. An image on her website would need to be clearly licenced as a 'Creative Commons' image, freely available for nom-commercial and commercial re-use (CC-BY-SA). The only way that would be acceptable would be if the author were to change her website, or email in her explicit permission to what is called the 'OTRS' team using a specific wording of release. Just saying "it's fine, Wikipedia can use my image" is not sufficient, I'm afraid. You can read more about the process at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. Hope this helps, Nick Moyes (talk) 19:35, 15 May 2019 (UTC)  

@Nick Moyes: Thanks Nick! Just found the OTRS page on Wikimedia Commons. I'm working with the author and her team on information so will send the email template to use! --Azurerae (talk) 19:41, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

@Azurerae: Ah - well done. Glad to have been of help. May I enquire in what capacity you're "working with the author and her team", please? If you know the subject personally, we do require you to declare any connection so everything about your editing is fully transparent. Please read our Conflict of Interest policy for more information on this. And if you are in any way being remunerated for your efforts, it is absolutely essential that you do declare this, per our policy which you can find at WP:PAID. Many thanks, Nick Moyes (talk) 19:47, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes: Nope, I don't know them and am unpaid! Just meant that I've gotten permission to write about her and ask questions of her for the article in addition to the sources gleaned from newspaper articles, public records, etc.--Azurerae (talk) 19:57, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

We don't require permission from subjects to write articles and have very little interest in what they have to say, we only summarise what independent reliable sources have reported about her. Theroadislong (talk) 20:02, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

As Theroadislong suggests, personal interviews are not acceptable as a reliable source in most cases(how do we know you really conducted such an interview?) Even interviews published by others are considered a primary source and not acceptable for establishing notability. 331dot (talk) 20:06, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

I understand about sources and am not posting an 'interview' with her as a source and that 'permission' from the subject is not required. Sorry if my word choice made it sound otherwise. Just trying to be courteous to the person I'm writing about and let them know what I'm doing. This open line of communication is allowing me to ask them to send in image release email as well as ask for clarification about statements made on their website about their NYT Best Seller status as I was unable to locate the article- a date they were added to the list for example.--Azurerae (talk) 20:23, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

@Azurerae: Thank you for being clear on your relationship with the subject. I would probably have done exactly the same thing - namely, attempt to speak to the subject, tell them what I was doing, and ask them if they know of any sources about themselves that I could use. As you appreciate, nothing they say about themselves can be used by you - but it might steer you towards resources you weren't otherwise aware of. Good luck. Nick Moyes (talk) 22:05, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes:Thanks for your welcome and assistance, Nick. Much appreciated! Is there a way to close out this discussion or is it auto archived after a certain amount of time? I just added a new question to the bottom!--Azurerae (talk) 23:08, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

@Azurerae: You can just leave a finished discussion and within a few days it will have moved up the page and get sutomatically archived. Rarely, if one of the Teahouse Hosts feels we need to draw an inappropriate or long-winded discussion to a close, we will mark it on the page as closed. The thread will then appear inside a coloured box with a note at the top stating it should not be modified. But this happens rarely at the Teahouse (unlike here). For a completely different topic, just start a new thread. Nick Moyes (talk) 05:59, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Opinions needed on editing the Hydrogen Water page

Hydrogen Water is a relatively new beverage that I've been drinking due to the scientific research that has been reported on it (over 1200 published articles and studies). It is a beverage that contains water and molecular hydrogen gas. Same idea as a soda or sparkling beverage which in their case contain CO2 gas. At first glance, the Hydrogen Water page looks pretty bland with negative connotation throughout it. They reference a quote "There is little evidence, and no scientific proof of its efficacy" that isn't in the articles they reference. In an effort to better inform readers of its scientific efficacy and scientific research, I tried submitting actual medical articles like this one which summarized 321 articles on molecular hydrogen as well as many others. One of the section titles is called "Health Claims" which in itself comes off as negative. But if you look at the page for Cannabidiol, you'll notice how much positive connotation is used. For example, they reference preliminary studies on anxiety, cognition, movement disorders, and pain. Even though the FDA has only approved CBD to be used for 2 epileptic disorders while the FDA has approved hydrogen water completely safe for consumption, they get to use section titles such as "Potential Interactions". In an effort to have a discussion on talk:Hydrogen Water, the author (MrX) wouldn't allow the page to include any of the medical studies that I suggested saying the sample sizes were too small or that the study was discussing molecular hydrogen and not hydrogen water. Molecular hydrogen is the main ingredient within hydrogen water (hence the name). Molecular hydrogen can be administered in many ways: inhalation, hydrogen water, an iv solution, etc... You can read about this in the H2 DELIVERY MECHANISMS section of this research article. I even sent studies that were only on hydrogen water since that was at least something he seemed to be interested in but none were eventually used. The cannabidiol page got to reference studies with small sample sizes with conclusions that asked for more research just like some of studies on hydrogen water but they get to be referenced and the ones on hydrogen water don't. MrX also said that he referenced the third party articles, which were misquoted by the way, because he said it's easier to use their opinion since they do all of the work for him... So I tried submitting multiple third party articles that were more informative to hydrogen water's benefits. One, as you'll see, seemed to be incentivising a certain product that I didn't notice so I said "my bad" and sent another one. MrX stopped responding and hasn't allowed any changes. Am I off base? Please be honest. This whole thing isn't about my opinion on the subject at all. Everything that was stated was properly linked to the National Center for Biotechnology Information which is where anything and everything scientific is published yet still I was shut down. Morphin2020 (talk) 20:33, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

@Morphin2020: You're better off discussing on the talk page. It doesn't help optics that there are several brand new WP:SPA accounts supporting your position - it only makes it look like WP:SOCK. We like to assume good faith, but being a new account, it gives the appearance that you might have a financial stake in promoting hydrogen water. I also agree with the advice given on User_talk:MrX#Hydrogen_Water. FWIW - the nih.gov article you linked to only suggests that hydrogen is beneficial - but not in the context of being infused in water. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 22:46, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Sourcing for claims of health benefits for food products falls under WP:MEDRS. Articles in that area are some of the most difficult to edit in all of Wikipedia. I'd suggest making requests on the talk page and maybe suggesting sources to back your points, but leaving the editing to more experienced editors. There are even legal implications for making inadequately sourced claims about food products. Tread lightly. John from Idegon (talk) 02:40, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

At the Talk page I listed refs for four clinical trials and three reviews for hydrogen water. The latter may be appropriate refs for this article. CBD is not a good model, because there too, the claims have gotten way ahead of the science. The FDA and FTC have taken actions against some of the CBD companies. David notMD (talk) 04:31, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Genocide

I checked for a list of Genocides on Wikipedia and there was no mention of the genocide of 65 to a 100 million plus Indigenous people in North America .Why ?— Preceding unsigned comment added by John O . Wilson (talk • contribs)

@John O . Wilson: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I think what you are looking for is at Genocides in history. There are sections for Canada, Mexico, and the United States. 331dot (talk) 21:05, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Also check out Genocide_of_indigenous_peoples--S Philbrick(Talk) 21:23, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Need more eyes at Murder of Hae Min Lee

Widely-read article has a desperate need for more watchers. I tried asking at some related articles, but no one came.Adoring nanny (talk) 01:03, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for leaving this message at the Teahouse. Adoring Nanny. I apologize if I am misunderstanding what you have written but each editor decides what page they want to watch. I can't make you a watcher and you can't make anyone else a watcher. Can you explain the problem a bit more? I've taken a look at the talk associated with this article. Perhaps this a question about another editor. It seems that the discussion is a little heated at this point AND another neutral editor has left their comments. I am not sure your problem can be solved by visiting the Teahouse. Best Regards, Barbara ✐✉ 19:28, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Not getting notifications from starred article on a talk page

Hello. A friend and I are collaborating on a new article and I've left messages on his talk page. Even though I have the page starred as one that's on my watchlist, I'm not getting notifications when he responds. What am I to do to fix this problem? BrieDeChevre (talk) 01:11, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

As no one can see your Watchlist but you, a precise answer is impossible. If I were to guess, you should look at your Watchlist settings, both at the top of the watchlist and in your preferences. You may have it set to not display pages in the "User talk" namespace. Just a guess, but that's all anyone can do as your Watchlist is one thing here that is private. John from Idegon (talk) 02:14, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Oops. Forgot to ping BrieDeChevre. Now I gotta resign as pings do not work unless you sign the message including the ping. There...I inadvertently taught you another way to solve the problem. Use pings. John from Idegon (talk) 02:16, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Remove and replace photo on my Wikipedia Page

Hi, I'm Allan Katz. Somehow, possibly because I was a writer/producer of the TV series M*A*S*H*, I'm identified with a picture of Alan Alda. Because I didn't post the photo, I don't know how to remove it. Also, I do have a headshot that I'd like to use instead. Can anybody help me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:e000:141c:43b9:1450:de58:2d57:9041 (talk • contribs) 02:01, May 16, 2019 (UTC)

It's not difficult to replace an image with a new one but first let's see the problem. What is the picture, and where is it used? There is no picture at all in Allan Katz, and I see no picture of someone mistakenly identified as Alda in Alan Alda or in M*A*S*H (TV series). Meters (talk) 02:15, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

There are some basic instructions on how ot upload images at Help:Contents, assuming you own the copyright to the image in question. Meters (talk) 02:18, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

You're probably referring to the picture Google pairs with an excerpt from the Wikipedia article. We have no control over what Google puts in their "knowledge panels". They have a "feedback" button, though, at the bottom of the knowledge panel, that you can use to tell them about the problem; it looks like this: Feedback. Eman235/talk 02:19, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Yup. That's has to be it. Clearly whatever algorithm Google is using has grabbed the wrong image https://www.google.com/search?q=Allan+Katz Meters (talk) 02:23, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

My guess is that if we obtain a picture of Allan Katz that Wikipedia can use, and add it to the article, Google will pick it up automatically as the best choice. Meters (talk) 02:26, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Google might be pulling that image from http://cinepartners.net/allan-katz-head-of-development/ Meters (talk) 02:28, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

A few other points: first, we have no way to know you are who you say you are. The reason for that should be clear and just as clearly we cannot take your word for it. Second, the encyclopedia article about you is NOT "your page". It is a tertiary encyclopedia article about you. You (assuming you are who you claim to be only for the sake of discussion) have no control whatsoever over its content. Last, simply possessing a photo does not give you ownership of the rights to it. For you to have copyright on a picture of yourself, it must either be a selfie, or you must posses (and share with Wikipedia Commons) a legally valid contract transferring the copyright to you. Copyright belongs to the photographer not the subject. John from Idegon (talk) 02:30, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Allan Katz. I am assuming that you are who you say you are for the sake of this discussion. The problem originates with Google but the lack of a photo of you on Wikipedia exacerbates the problem. Yes, you have a conflict of interest regarding the Wikipedia biography of you, but on the other hand, adding high quality images is universally seen as an improvement of the encyclopedia. If you are at all competent as a photographer (it isn't difficult), then take a high quality selfie and upload it to our sister project Wikimedia Commons. It can then be added to your Wikipedia biography, and Google's spiders will find it in short order, and start displaying it in your Google Knowledge Panel. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:47, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Everyone interested should read Knowledge Graph which describes this Google feature. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:51, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

And while you don't have control over the WP-article (in the long run, anyway), it is possible that you could have influence, by leaving messages like this or posting suggestions at Talk:Allan Katz. More at WP:AUTOPROB. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:32, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Width of a frame

Around the template "Information science"

there is a frame. I would like to make it less wide. How can I do this or better: where can I find the tutorial to do this? Steue (talk) 03:55, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Good question. You can edit the sidebar via the tiny "E" in the bottom right corner, but I see no obvious parameter for width. Also, anything you do here will effect all the pages this template appear on, and that may not be what you want. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:49, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

CFCF, do you have any idea? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:54, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello, Steue and welcome to the Teahouse. Before answering you, I'm assuming you only want to change the size of the displayed template on your own userpage and not to change it for every other user on Wikipedia? Please don't attempt to change that template - or indeed any other - without first discussing your proposal on the template's talk page. That template uses another template to create a sidebar - see {{sidebar}} where the documentation shows there is a width parameter which can be included.

When you added the template here, you 'transcluded' it - meaning that it remains 'live' and that any change later made to the original template would appear here and on every other page where it is included whenever those pages are opened or refreshed. The method you actually need to deploy is 'substitution' whereby the actual text of the template is pasted into just your userpage; any subsequent changes then made to the template won't show on your page. And changes you make won't impact upon anyone else, either. So, to achieve this, type in this: {{subst:Information science}}, save it and then edit the source code. You can then insert the missing width parameter as |width=

If you add any number, say 50, and preview your page, you'll see it has shrunk just a tiny bit. But the limiting factor is the longest line: the very bottom link to the Library and information science portal. If you delete that line on your own user page (not in the master template!) you can shrink the sidebar even more. Unfortunately, I'm no expert in the finer points of templates - there are probably other parameters one could find to reduce the body font size, but I hope this quick reply suits your purpose. I've made a mockup for you in my own sandbox here, which first shows the original translcuded template, and below it a modified version which I substituted and then edited for you. Let us know how you get on. Nick Moyes (talk) 09:12, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Help with "rollback"

Dear Friends,

where can I ask a sysop to help with a "rollback", for instance at William McGillivray, some anonymous editor has completely messed the article in three edits. I can do it manual, but that takes a lot of time. Where can I as a sysop to help me with this? Thanks, --Dick Bos (talk) 08:24, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Dick Bos, I have fixed it for you. A few tips: Twinkle has basic rollback functionality (including a "restore this revision" feature which I find quite useful). You can enable that now and use it. Also, any editor in good standing can request rollback rights. Eman235/talk 10:35, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

References

How do I include a reference in an article — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C4:AA78:B100:E590:E170:D15F:6737 (talk) 11:06, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

See Help:Footnotes for instructions. If you register an account, you can use the tool ProveIt, which makes the process easier.

Danni Nicholls - Cleaning Up Issues

Hello I have set up a Wikipedia page on behalf of a singer/songwriter, there have been many edits made by others, all seems to be in order but I do not know how to clean the page up and remove the issue alerts. Can anyone explain in clear terms how to do it or do it on my behalf?

Many thanks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danni_Nicholls

This article has multiple issues. Please help improve it or discuss these issues on the talk page. (Learn how and when to remove these template messages)

This article needs additional or more specific categories. (October 2018)(COMMENT - ???

This article may be written from a fan's point of view, rather than a neutral point of view. (October 2018) (COMMENT - NOT WRITTEN BY FAN BUT BY MANAGEMENT)

The topic of this article may not meet Wikipedia's notability guideline for music. (October 2018)(COMMENT - ???)

This article may require cleanup to meet Wikipedia's quality standards. The specific problem is: WP:EL (October 2018)(COMMENT - ???)

This article may have been created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use. (December 2018)(COMMENT - ABSOLUTELY NO PAYMENTS PAID!!) - — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a02:c7f:480c:1100:7d7a:9d8b:84c7:85f (talk • contribs) 11:41, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

The fact that you've stated that you're her management means you have a Conflict of Interest and should not be editing the article. Please read WP:COI, it will explain the what and why. I'm also going to have to attach a COI alert to the article. - X201 (talk) 12:06, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

If you are the same person as the editor Time49a (the creator of the article), then please log in before posting here. It is important for us to know if we are communicating with the same individual.

Also, are you claiming that you are the artist's management but you're not paid to do it? Are you managing this person as an unpaid volunteer? --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:59, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Please do not edit a Wikipedia article "on behalf of" anybody or anything other than Wikipedia itself. To edit "on behalf of" the subject is called promotion, and is forbidden. --ColinFine (talk) 17:05, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Looking for advanced editing tips

1. Is there a template that generates user links like the signature, but for a given user? Like: Example (contribs) or similar?
   Template:User_contributions, Template:User_contrib have frames, that make these suitable only for the user page. Also, I need the link, not the counter.

Thanks!  Aron M🍁 (➕)  11:59, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Are you thinking something like {{User}}, which gives output like Aron Manning (talk · contribs)? Eman235/talk 14:40, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Yup, ty!

Another one: [] around [Wiki link] without [ ? — Aron M🍂 [🛄📤] 16:44, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Aron M: Wikipedia:Manual of Style § Brackets and linking suggests using {{bracket}} or <nowiki>...</nowiki>. Eman235/talk 17:38, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

@Eman235: Thanks! I've only read through the first chapter yet... Note: brackets inside of links actually work (maybe originally it did not): "[[WP:MOS|[WP:MOS]]]" generates [WP:MOS], but outside escaping seems necessary. — Aron M🍂 (🛄📤) 23:53, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Editting article

please house! how do I edit an article by adding sections such as early education and background, personal life, career and awards sections — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chiddy305 (talk • contribs) 11:59, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Just use the equals sign twice on each side of the heading (see above) or three times for sub-headings like this:

Sub-heading

Dbfirs 17:27, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

First page in sandbox before it goes to the original page

Hi, I created my first wiki-page (in my sandbox). Please let me know if you see something that should be corrected. Also, how long does it normally take to have the sandbox page checked before copying and pasting to the original page is possible? Thank you very much! Annadoro15 (talk) 13:22, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

@Annadoro15: I have added the appropriate template to your draft so you can submit it for a formal review. If accepted, it will be moved to the encyclopedia; copying and pasting is not necessary. There is no timeframe for review, as reviews are conducted by volunteers in no particular order; it could take hours or months, as there are thousands of drafts waiting. 331dot (talk) 13:33, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you!Annadoro15 (talk) 18:52, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

@Annadoro15: On the surface, the draft seems OK but I'd watch the language in the selected design work section - it's non-encyclopedic and reads more like an essay. I also haven't checked the sources too deeply - they just need to be reliable and third party, rather than just gallery listings. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 18:39, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your feedback. I'll rewrite it.Annadoro15 (talk) 18:52, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Need administrator to check

Two people just deleted the bulk of Crimean-Nogai Raids. Should something be done about this? Benjamin Trovato (talk) 14:03, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

I wouldn't have phrased it like that. You are already taking part in that content discussion. - X201 (talk) 14:26, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

• This policy (which AFAICT has not been linked to in the discussion) is relevant. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 15:28, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Damn dawg. This finna hard.

Hey, how do i make text a link where people can click it and go to another Wikipedia page of said subject? Fx. If i put Los Angeles, how do i make that into a link where people can click it and go to a Wiki page about Los Angeles?— Preceding unsigned comment added by TobiasStage (talk • contribs)

@TobiasStage: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You put double brackets around the page title; for example typing [[Los Angeles]] as you see it there appears as Los Angeles. 331dot (talk) 16:44, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Can you illustrate what the double brackets look like? I put the nowiki but nothing happened. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TobiasStage (talk • contribs) 16:51, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

@TobiasStage: Don't put the "nowiki". I had to put that so you could see what to do without it actually happening. 331dot (talk) 16:57, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

@TobiasStage: With regards to your submission Draft:Stanford & Stage Westside LLC, it has been declined by another editor, and I can't find a single mention of the company in Google. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 18:32, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

First time wikipedia writer-publish alert

Hello,

I have written a new article using my Wikipedia account (Abrar writing) and published the write-up, could you please help me with the immediate next steps, how do I know if the content is approved?

Many thanks | Abrar — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abrar writing (talk • contribs) 16:43, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

@Abrar writing: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I will shortly add the appropriate template to allow you to submit the draft for review, but you should not submit it yet as it would be rejected. This is because no independent reliable sources are given in your draft that indicate how that company meets the Wikipedia definition of a notable company. Wikipedia is onlu interested in what independent sources have chosen on their own to give significant coverage to; Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject says about itself.

If you are, as I suspect, work for or are otherwise associated with this company, you must review the conflict of interest policy and the paid editing policy to learn how to make the appropriate required declarations. 331dot (talk) 16:49, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

@Abrar writing: As 331dot mentions above, there's not enough media coverage/sourcing to justify a standalone article, but I found a single source and with it added a brief Equiniti India section to the Equiniti article. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 18:18, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Help with article

How could I improve my article, Schwab and England ADL scale? Also, why did I not have to “submit” the article in order for it to be created? I am not autopatrolled.  ⠀—‌‌  Glosome‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌  💬 17:37, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

@Glosome: You've made enough edits and have been on Wikipedia long enough so that your articles can be placed directly into namespace rather than requiring submission in AFC. It will still need to be patrolled before it will show up in Google searches, but it seems worthy of inclusion. I made a few improvements. Thanks for your efforts to improve the encyclopedia. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 18:04, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

make a page

how do i start a article myself? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emmsuf (talk • contribs) 17:38, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

This should help: Wikipedia:Your first article. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 17:40, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Emmsuf, Deciding to start on a brand-new article with no editing experience is sort of like deciding to take up swimming and tackling the English Channel first. Can it be done? Yes, but highly unlikely. Please consider making simple edits to existing articles 1st.

You might also consider starting with Wikipedia:The_Wikipedia_Adventure S Philbrick(Talk) 21:11, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Jim Karol Wikipedia Page - Removed by an old Employee

Hello,

My name is dennis and I had an old employee who was directed by me to create a page for Jim Karol. Greg has since removed this page which he should not have done so, becuase I paid him to create a Page for Mr. Karol and I also paid for him to learn how to be an editor/contributor with Wikipedia. How can we recover this page for Mr. Karol and stop from this ever happening again. Thank you. Dennis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hawker1000 (talk • contribs) 20:21, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

The article was deleted after a discussion here Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jim Karol. Theroadislong (talk) 20:33, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Was your old employee the person who is now User:Braindusted, or a different Greg? Apologies to Braindusted (talk · contribs) if he has no connection with you. You need to be aware that paid editing is discouraged on Wikipedia, and there can be no guarantee that an article created by a paid editor will not be deleted or that it will be kept in your preferred version. See WP:Paid. Dbfirs 20:49, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

@Hawker1000: Links to relevant policies/guidelines:

• Paid-contribution disclosure
• Conflict of interest
• Ownership of content
• Notability

--Drm310 🍁 (talk) 20:59, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

When I say paid, he was a paid employee of ours. sorry for the confusion. Anyway, im not to familiar with the way this works, so how can we get this page back online? Name is Greg H. Im not sure if Braindusted is him now. thx. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hawker1000 (talk • contribs)

Hello, Hawker1000. Please look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jim Karol: the article was deleted by an admin after a discussion by several Wikipedia editors agreed that Karol did not meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability, and so no article about him could ever be acceptable. The deletion was nothing to do with your employee. It is possible that an admin would agree to restore the deleted article so that it can be worked on, (see Undeletion) but unless you can convince them that Karol is indeed notable (in Wikipedia's special meaning of the word - see the link above), there is no point. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a medium for promotion. --ColinFine (talk) 21:24, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Question about when articles get created vs submitted/reviewed

Working on author page (Kristen Ashley), started a bibliography for her and it created the bibliography page without it going through the submission and review process. Wasn't expecting that to happen as the author page is still a work in progress and wasn't ready for the bibliography to be up yet. Thought it would just be a draft. Can someone tell me what I did wrong? Kristen Ashleys Bibliography --Azurerae (talk) 22:26, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

@Azurerae: I see you also asked this at Wikipedia:WikiProject Romance/Notice Board. Please only ask in one place to minimize duplication of volunteers' efforts. I see the bibliography has been deleted pending creation of the article. I would focus on the article before spending any time on the bibliography, in case the article is rejected. Be careful of tone - it seems essay-like now. Refs come after punctuation. And please be mindful of WP:COI. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 23:48, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Inadvertent edit as IP

I was logged in but somehow made a change as an IP. Can I change the signature, and how? Jmar67 (talk) 01:11, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Monirulmonir674@gmail.com

Hello Jmar67 and welcome to the TeaHouse. You can't actually change the previously edit, but if it is important to keep the record straight they you could use a Dummy edit to notify that it was your edit.--Gronk Oz (talk) 03:12, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Jmar67 if you feel that your IP address was exposed, don't worry, no body is going to find out and most probably no one is going to doxx you. As far as I know, It is impossible to change the signature in the history page. The same story happened with me once and I just ignored it.--SharabSalam (talk) 03:32, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

I believe you can request oversight for that, actually. Eman235/talk 04:28, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Blacklist external links and inviting someone to the tea house

Hi, I was wondering where can I find a list of blacklisted links ?and what should I do if I found a blacklisted link used as a reference?. Another question is how to invite someone to the tea house? I want to invite Kunga.Dhondup to here because I feel he needs some help with editting (is that an appropriate reason to invite someone to here?) --SharabSalam (talk) 02:21, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi,SharabSalam. The Blacklist process is described at Wikipedia:Spam blacklist. The best way to invite a new user is to use one of the welcome templates at Wikipedia:Welcoming committee/Welcome templates.--Gronk Oz (talk) 03:16, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

@SharabSalam: If, as in your instance, the user has alreay received a general "welcome to Wikipedia" message (full of helpful links), then a good Teahouse specific invitation would be

{{subst:Wikipedia:Teahouse/Invitation|sign=~~~~}} which renders as:

Hello! Teahouse, you are invited to the Teahouse, a forum on Wikipedia for new editors to ask questions about editing Wikipedia, and get support from peers and experienced editors. Please join us! Nick Moyes (talk) 08:13, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

It automatically adds the username of the editor whose page you leave it on, which is why in the example above it rather weirdly appears to be saying hello to itself here. That wouldn't happen when used anywhere else. It is indeed a subtle way of offering support to a new editor, though if they don't realise their edits are a bit problematic, they may never seek help. A polite, gentle and supportive word from you on their talk page that specifically identifies any issues with their editing might actually be what they would benefit from most. Hope you find this useful. Nick Moyes (talk) 08:13, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Article Help

I was just clicking through random, and came across this odd article. Some of the language seemed strange, so I looked at the sources and most of them seem to be links to the mainpage of various university websites and blogs. Is there anything I can be doing with this page to make it less odd? BilledMammal (talk) 03:45, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello BilledMammal - that article certainly needs some work. As a first step, I filled in the details of references where I could, and tagged some of the dead links or references that did not support the content of the article. It looks like it was written by somebody with limited English and that might be the best way to start, by correcting the language. Then the content should be verified. Feel free to be bold and improve it where you can; even a small start like cleaning up a poorly worded sentence all helps.--Gronk Oz (talk) 06:32, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Numbering in column

Greetings House!

I'm currently building an article and need help on how to number some elements in my article so they can take a vertical shape instead of horizontal. I know it will look neat and more organised in that manner. In anticipation. Thanks.

Ohanwe Emmanuel .I. (talk) 09:49, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Ohanwe Emmanuel .I.. I think you're looking for Help:Lists - you can use * for each item in a bulleted list, or # for each item in a numbered list. --ColinFine (talk) 11:26, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

About User:Cacycle/wikEd

Hello Editors <3

I just got to know about there is full fetched wikitext editor, but I'm not understanding how to use it? can someone explain in local English like the one use to speak, I read the Project page but didn't understand much, so if anyone can explain to me how I can use it to make my editing faster & better that would great for me --WikiLover97 (talk) 09:57, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Wikilover. Asking that an entire project page be translated into your preferred version of conversational English is a tall order. It would be more productive to ask for the meaning of specific phrases you find hard to parse. And feel free to ask specific questions about the text editor as well.

Are you trying to write an article as your first Wikipedia endeavour? Better to start out by observing the editing behavior of others while attempting your own small copyedits of articles you encounter on WP. That way, you gain fluency.--Quisqualis (talk) 21:09, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Reference needed?

Header added by ColinFine (talk) 11:31, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Is it necessary to add a reference link for edits or changes in literary pages like poetry analysis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rentaile (talk • contribs) 2019-05-17T11:38:48 (UTC)

Hello, Rentaile, and welcome to the Teahouse. (I added a header to your question). Any information that you add to a Wikipedia article should be derived from a reliable published source. Except in certain contexts, you are not obliged to cite the source, but if you don't, another editor is entitled to remove the information you added, so it saves trouble all round if you cite it in the first place. Note that a citation should give information about the source, the date, the author etc: a link is a helpful convenience, but not the important part of a citation - see Referencing for beginners.

One more point: I'm not sure what kind of change you are talking about, but if it involves arguments, theories, interpretations, or conclusions, please be aware that these may be original research, which is not permitted in Wikipedia articles. --ColinFine (talk) 11:41, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Archiving tricky URL

Hello Teahouse! Not really a newbie here, but I have had trouble archiving this website at either archive.org or webcitation.org. The URL is this redbull music academy article which I have used extensively for the Escape (Whodini album) article. The website seems to feature some sort of loading feature that prevents me from having it properly archived on Archive.org and webcitation (it constantly hits the loading page without hitting the site). I fear losing this valuable content! Anyone know of any alternative solution? Andrzejbanas (talk) 13:27, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

@Andrzejbanas: have you tried Archive.is? – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 13:44, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

@Finnusertop:I have not tried that yet. I am currently at work and that URL seems to be blocked.:) I will try when I get a spare moment at home. Andrzejbanas (talk) 13:50, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Doctors Foster and Smith

I was just reading about this company that I used to buy from. They got sucked up by Petco in Feb 2019. Wiki says it was in 2015. Can someone edit this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:a000:1013:62:6843:56b1:23f3:1bf1 (talk)

You may want to suggest this on the talk page of the article, Talk:Petco, where editors that follow that article can see it. 331dot (talk) 14:00, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

You are confusing two events. Drs. Foster & Smith#Acquired by Petco correctly says Petco bought them in 2015. Drs. Foster & Smith#Company Closure says Petco closed them in February 2019. Both events are mentioned in [10]. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:07, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Question

Ive made some edits and i've had my account for a long time. Why cant i edit on semi protected items.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Petey088 (talk • contribs)

@Petey088: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I could give a better answer if I knew which article you were attempting to edit, but there are different levels of protection; if you are autoconfirmed it's 4 days old and 10 edits; if you are extended-confirmed, it's 30 days and 500 edits. 331dot (talk) 14:26, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Editors are reverting my edit on the page Malakar

The below is a old version of the page written carefully and after through research. The citations were provided as well for the same, but strangely some people are perennially reverting back to something completely different. https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Malakar&oldid=897518223

The article I had created for the Bengali Hindu surname which is present throughout Bengal and Bangladesh, and also present in Assam, Jharkhand among the Bengali people living there.

The editors are removing the name Bangladesh from the entry, a simple research or google search will prove the existence of Malakar surname throughout Bangladesh. Apart from that, there are legends associated with this surname which I had written as legends only in the main article, and I have taken them from the book The Tribes And Castes Of Bengal: Ethnographic Glossary, Volume 2, by HH Risley. And I don't understand the claim make by some of the editors that the Raj Era books are not reliable sources. Do decides that, on what basis? Iamjfcal (talk) 16:00, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

@Iamjfcal: Please continue the discussion on the article's talk page Talk:Malakar, where it is already being discussed. Follow WP:DR dispute resolution steps if needed. RudolfRed (talk) 16:28, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Notability of Vijay Kumbhar

Greetings everyone,

I am new to wikipedia and have realised that there are certain aspects I must gain insight on. How do we determine the notability of a living person? There are several newspapers that have covered the subject I wish to write about. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PadmashreeGhangale (talk • contribs) 17:29, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia and thanks for wanting to make it better. Check out WP:NBIO for the guidelines on notability for people, and WP:YFA for how to create an article. RudolfRed (talk) 17:30, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

What to do if my XFD doesn't get any contribution from other editors?

What will happen when the closure date comes, after the relisting? Also, maybe, my proposal has characteristics that puts the passerby off from commenting? Is there somewhere I can find editors with (potentially) expertise/interest to RFC? I think the admin could just read my proposal and decide using common sense and/or some research on their part, but it keeps relisting, so I think that's probably not how things are done. Usedtobecool (talk) 18:28, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Question About Editing A Page

Hello,

There is a page for me on Wikipedia. Years ago (I mean MANY years ago), one of my clients took to Wikipedia to change some things on a few pages. She was actually an academic who used Wikipedia a lot. One of the articles she edited was mine. She thought she was doing me a favor. I don't remember exactly what happened, but there was some sort of brouhaha - I believe the editor thought I was doing it - I know it's against the rules to edit your own page, so - NO - it wasn't me. She was upset, he was upset, I was upset.

There were other editors who were upset with the editor who started the whole ruckus. Some thought he was being way overzealous. There was a bit of commotion among the editors. I have no idea why, but I clearly remember her emailing me that other editors were upset with his decision.

A while later, she tried to edit it when I released new material and it wasn't allowed to go through for some reason. She gave up and told me to tell someone else to update it. That was 4 years ago. The new material absolutely should have been allowed to be added. It's a legitimate, verifiable publication. There was no reason for it not be allowed The page is semi-protected due to whatever it was that went on.

I just left it alone, hoping it would all blow over. Someone who is doing a story on me emailed me about the missing information in Wikipedia. I didn't even want to revisit this, but I've been ignoring it long enough.

Before coming here, I tried to reach out to her to refresh my memory as to what happened (so I could explain it to the Wikipedia Powers That Be), but her email changed and I can't seem to find her. I wanted to get the story before finding someone else to update the page. I am now paranoid about asking anyone to touch it. Because it's semi protected, the only person who can edit is a regular Wikipedia user and I don't know anyone who is. I've been asking around for a while now, but because of what happened, I'm paranoid.

Can someone tell me how to find a regular Wikipedia editor that I don't know - who has ZERO ties to me - a completely neutral 3rd party - to edit it? And how does "semi-protected" affect this search? Is there something I need to tell them? Because it's been 4 years, there's a lot of information missing and I don't want someone else to be thrown in Wikipedia jail.

THANKS! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackieofalltrades123 (talk • contribs) 19:22, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Jackieofalltrades123, and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm sorry you had this bad experience: people often don't understand what Wikipedia is, and plough straight in to editing without realising the possible consequences. Thanks for coming here and asking. It would not be forbidden for you to edit the article about you directly, but it is certainly discouraged. Your best bet would be to suggest the changes you would like to see make: start a new section on the article's Talk page, be as specific as you can (eg "Replace XXX with YYY", or "Delete ZZZ"), and if possible, give a published source for any information you want introduced - if it is a source unconnected with you and your associates, so much the better. Then add {{edit request}} (with the double curly brackets) and it will put your request on a list that some editors look at regularly. In time somebody will come and review what you have asked, and decide what changes are appropriate. See WP:BESTCOI for more information. --ColinFine (talk) 20:38, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

@Jackieofalltrades123: Go to the talk page of the article about you. Start a new section at the page, and at the top of the section post the code {{edit request}}. Below the code, provide the changes you suggest, including independent reliable sources for the information. The code will flag the article as needing attention from an uninvolved editor. Hope that makes sense. --bonadea contributions talk 20:34, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

If a movie was a blockbuster why we should not write that it was a blockbuster.

Do you think it is an unfair praise of a movie it met astounding success. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emma.Sydney.aus (talk • contribs)

• It's not a neutral word. Drmies (talk) 20:25, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Just write how it was a blockbuster instead without using that word. In the appropriate sections, you can write how much money it made, what were the audience and critic ratings, how long did it run theatrically, etc. Usedtobecool (talk) 20:34, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Emma.Sydney.aus. In theory, you can attribute the blockbuster claim to high quality reliable sources, in this fashion: "According to outstanding source A and outstanding source B, the movie was a blockbuster." But the term is so vague and so overused and it lacks a strict definition. Therefore, it rarely adds much of encyclopedic value. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 08:02, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia article on Lone Sailor Award fails to list several recipients

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lone_Sailor_Award : This page is incomplete, listing award recipients only back to 1993. The US Navy Lone Sailor Award was established in 1987 by the US Navy Memorial, and the recipients of the award which were omitted from the above Wikipedia page are:

1992 President Gerald R. Ford Honorable H. Lawrence Garrett, III

1991 Admiral Arleigh Burke President George H.W. Bush Justice William S. White

1989 Admiral Thomas H. Moorer

1987 Herman Wouk

My information source is: https://www.navymemorial.org/previous-lone-sailor-award-recipients . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.116.209.55 (talk) 21:16, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello, IP editor, and welcome to the Teahouse. Please feel free to update that article, citing the source that you mentioned. Thank you for helping to improve the encyclopedia. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:53, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

linking a page in edit summary

I am trying to link a talk page consensus in the edit summary but I am not sure how to do it. I did it twice at random and it worked for another page Jack90s15 (talk) 21:30, 17 May 2019 (UTC) its this I am trying to get linked in the edit summary rm assistant principals per Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Schools/Archive_26#Request_for_comments:_What_administrators_to_list_on_school_articles

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Schools/Archive 26#Request for comments: What administrators to list on school articles.--Moxy 🍁 21:48, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you I tested it in sandbox and I have it nowJack90s15 (talk) 23:56, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello Good people

I just started using wiki for the first time and I am having problem creating my own page. I made it 5 days ago but it is still on draft mode and I dont know how to fix it. Any advice would be nice thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Behroozmm (talk • contribs)

@Behroozmm: Welcome to Wikipedia. I assume this is about Draft:Rosenkrantz Jewellery. Unfortunately, your draft is too promotional and is also unsourced, giving little indication of the subject's notability. It also appears you have a conflict of interest with your association with the business. I recommend you read the following, in order: WP:COI, WP:PROMO, WP:GNG and WP:My first article. Please feel free to help contribute to Wikipedia accordingly - there are lots of things that need volunteers. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Cheers. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 00:22, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

I have deleted that overtly promotional draft. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:49, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Behroozmm. Please understand that Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, and not an advertising medium. If you try to use it to promote your business, you will have a frustrating and uncomfortable time. --ColinFine (talk) 09:00, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Edits

Started a few days ago. It seems i contribute, it gets reverted, sometimes in seconds, no explanation. Even while still editing credits and can't figure out why page is different in editor than what shows to me on read. In fact on Single Hitch page, they decided the same old blank page was better as their contribution? Oh but not so quick to answer why. How do we move forward please?Thetreespyder (talk) 07:27, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

The pages you have edited are probably on the watchlists of different editors, hence the quick revert. Please discuss your edits on the talk page of the individual articles. In most cases, explanations were provided in edit summaries. The stub Single hitch contained no references. Please read WP:Referencing for beginners. Not all of your edits have been reverted. Please ensure that you add appropriate references for future edits, then they are less likely to be reverted. Dbfirs 08:47, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi Thetreespyder welcome to the Teahouse. It was yourself who reverted Single hitch to a redirect.[11] We don't write article text after redirect code. Users clicking the redirect are taken to the target of the redirect without seeing the text. An article should have reliable sources satisfying Wikipedia:Notability. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:37, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

New Memeber

Hey i'm a new member to Wikipedia. i was just message by another member that told me that my recent edits constitute vandalism. but after i signed up i was ask to do my first edit on Cosequin page. so my question is did i not understand what to do?