Talk:MasterChef (American TV series) season 4

CW?

I wonder what's up with the CWs and why are some people rated higher than others are? Like them being in Top 5 instead of Top 9? 176.109.57.119 (talk) 18:40, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Can I just add, what the hell is the use of that in the summary table? It's confusing and doesn't really add anything benefitial to this section. I don't know who came up with this idea, and I really feel like removing this whole CW column, but I wanna know if people actually think it's a good idea or not. ─ Fabzzz _talk 04:48, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

I was just wondering why it was there too, it seems like trivial information that really isn't needed. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 15:35, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

The fact that there is now a board dedicated only for that is just beyond me. It's plain useless, why bother? ─ Fabzzz _talk 05:52, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm for removing it. It looks like it is ranking the cooks' ability based on "wins"- ie who is best cook...if this is the case it is very skewed...only the personal wins should count, not the team wins, since individual performance in team wins may have been terrible and a total fail so not an indication of their true abilities as a cook as it seems to imply. Omgoodnessme (talk) 02:22, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

So, what are we waiting for : ) ─ Fabzzz _talk 01:28, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

I concur. The "cumulative wins" section is extraneous and pointless. I'm all for its removal, too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.102.59.57 (talk) 19:39, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

So I removed it on all 4 seasons [because yes, it was there on all 4 seasons]. If anyone wants to argue or debate it, do it here instead of doing an edit war. Thanks : ) ─ Fabzzz _talk 04:00, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Cumulative Wins Table

Hi, I actually liked the cum. wins table. I thought it gave a good summary of how a cook has fared in all challenges in comparison to others. Seeing the elimination table can be a little jarring since there are so many abbreviations there. If anything, the cumulative wins should have had an individual wins column and team wins column to differentiate between the two instead of being removed completely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.68.163.83 (talk) 14:25, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Professional models/actors hired?

I was wondering if some mention of the real professions of the Masterchef contestants?

Bri is not a "stage assistant", but is a professional model/actor/dancer: http://www.starnow.com/brikozior

Jessie is not a "yacht stewardess", she is a professional model (and a runner up for Miss Grorgia): http://amtagency.com/display/jessie-lysiak/

Now, I am unsure if simply adding these references and their professions as models on the page would qualify as OR, as it would simply be stating what they have on their original professional pages.

However, there are few reliable sources that reference the fact that these professionals are being presented on the show as "amateur chefs".

So, would this be OR, or would stating "XXX is a professional model" and citing their agency pages be acceptable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.18.35.153 (talk) 01:37, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Regardless of what their actual profession they would still be, at least the two you gave, amateur chefs. They may be used to acting or performing that is not what this competition is about, at least it shouldn't be :). So unless we have a reliable source stating that these contestants are just there to add drama or something like that I at least feel as it is irrelevant.

Also Bri and Jessie may professional models etc. but they may not have constant employment as that so could be working as what the shows claims as well. Just my 2¢ --Jnorton7558 (talk) 02:07, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Episode 24

Why does the elimination table have results for episode 24? It hasn't aired yet. --Silverhand^Talk 14:05, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

It aired on September 4th right after episode 23 finished. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 22:10, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Ridiculous detail

Doesn't Wikipedia have guidelines about how much details there should be in articles such as this, especially if there are no sources? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.192.129.7 (talk) 05:55, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Elimination Table Format and Key Changes

I'm going to copy this information to all of the seasons for MasterChef. After thinking about this for some time, the Elimination Table and its associated key has been revamped. This was due to the fact that there were selections for whether or not a contestant was the last one saved or not in challenges. Whether or not a contestant is saved first, last, or anywhere in between is completely irrelevant and trivial. It is done strictly for the purposes of creating drama. All that matters is whether or not a contestant advanced or not, and if they were in the bottom or not. Thus, the former Pink "Low" for being a bottom entry but not last to advance has been eliminated altogether.

In addition, after talking this factor other with another editor, I realized that the Pressure Tests are nothing more than another Elimination Challenge, again, just with more drama added to it. So if a contestant gets into a Pressure Test, it should be treated the same as all the other Elimination Challenges, and if a contestant falls into the "bottom x" from a Pressure Test, they should be marked in the table as an Orange "Low", the same as any other Elimination Challenge. Not all Pressure Tests result in a "bottom x" (though most do nowadays) so if they don't announce a bottom, we can just use the PT code for those, and we can also continue to use the PT code for when a contestant gets into a Pressure Test and survives without being announced as a "bottom x".

Bottom line: Pink Low = gone. Orange Low = bottom of any elimination challenge including Pressure Tests. Purple Low = bottom of a Team Challenge.

Feel free to reply/chat me with any other questions about this. - SanAnMan (talk) 17:12, 20 July 2018 (UTC)