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contextulisation

the African and Asian guests at a pub dinner given by the African and Asian Society found themselves seperated from other guests by a screen placed in the room^[1]

so, cordless lary proposed i put this here for a discussion of where to contextualised this information — Preceding unsigned comment added by Menacinghat (talk • contribs) 23:21, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Ayahs, Lascars and Princes: The Story of Indians in Britain 1700-1947".

Just inserting that example into the article isn't helpful, in my view. It needs more context. Do we have sources that establish that this was typical of the time, for example? Why are we picking this example rather than others? Cordless Larry (talk) 13:07, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

nb edit conflict

I'm not sure what point is being made, implicitly that there was prejudice against/distaste of these people, of which this is an example. It isn't even clear who was segregated, the society members from the general clients of the pub that night or the white and non-white society members from each other. If the point is that there was prejudice, I would have thought a better, more general statement would be clearer covering something broader than this incident. Pincrete (talk) 13:15, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Film reel

Agreed. I feel the same about this. Why are we singling out this one film reel to open a section with? Cordless Larry (talk) 17:50, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the material about the film reel. Cordless Larry (talk) 18:02, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Just a thought, but if the film is in the public domain, would a captioned 'still' work as an image? as suggested here "would this be better as an image if poss?". Pincrete (talk) 22:04, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, that might make more sense - using it to illustrate the article. Cordless Larry (talk) 22:13, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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What are these sources? @105.112.16.252 ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by I Am Chaos (talk • contribs) 14:17, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Africans born in Britain do not consider themselves "Black British"

Since when has Africans born in Britain considered themselves "Black British" or ever used that term to describe themselves? 81.141.15.52 (talk) 19:50, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

for as long as their skins been black — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamesthefrank (talk • contribs) 09:18, 15 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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some captions have full stops others do not — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.153.5.155 (talk) 07:38, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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http://web.archive.org/web/20181023134143/https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/07/first-modern-britons-dark-black-skin-cheddar-man-dna-analysis-reveals

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Black British → Black Britons – Per African Americans. Unreal7 (talk) 16:25, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. The usual and better understood term is Black British. ngram Limiting to British English gives similar results. Certes (talk) 18:14, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "Ayahs, Lascars and Princes: The Story of Indians in Britain 1700-1947".

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			:'''Oppose'''. The usual and better understood term is ''Black British''. [https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Black+British%2CBlack+Briton%2CBlack+Britons&case_insensitive=on&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t4%3B%2CBlack%20British%3B%2Cc0%3B%2Cs0%3B%3Bblack%20British%3B%2Cc0%3B%3BBlack%20British%3B%2Cc0%3B.t4%3B%2CBlack%20Briton%3B%2Cc0%3B%2Cs0%3B%3Bblack%20Briton%3B%2Cc0%3B%3BBlack%20Briton%3B%2Cc0%3B.t4%3B%2CBlack%20Britons%3B%2Cc0%3B%2Cs0%3B%3Bblack%20Britons%3B%2Cc0%3B%3BBlack%20Britons%3B%2Cc0 ngram] Limiting to British English gives similar results. [[User:Certes\|Certes]] ([[User talk:Certes\|talk]]) 18:14, 24 June 2019 (UTC)