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:{{ping|Varnellr16}} Thanks for your work on this article! I changed the heading of that section. This isn't a high traffic article (<10 views per day), so you shouldn't be shy about making changes to the article directly, although you can keep using your sandbox if you prefer. [[User:Catrìona|Catrìona]] ([[User talk:Catrìona|talk]]) 22:26, 8 November 2018 (UTC) |
:{{ping|Varnellr16}} Thanks for your work on this article! I changed the heading of that section. This isn't a high traffic article (<10 views per day), so you shouldn't be shy about making changes to the article directly, although you can keep using your sandbox if you prefer. [[User:Catrìona|Catrìona]] ([[User talk:Catrìona|talk]]) 22:26, 8 November 2018 (UTC) |
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:: Hello [[User:Catrìona|Catrìona]], Just worked on the article a fair amount. Added an image from wikicommons. I made some edits and removed one piece that didn't have any citation and was a stand alone segment. From my perspective it appeared as a statement, I didn't think it fit properly with Wikipedia's guidelines. Thank you for the response, hopefully the article was improved. I would like to see others far more capable than myself give it some attention though. Keep the discussion going.:) [[User:Varnellr16|Varnellr16]] ([[User talk:Varnellr16|talk]]) 08:05, 11 November 2018 (UTC) |
:: Hello [[User:Catrìona|Catrìona]], Just worked on the article a fair amount. Added an image from wikicommons. I made some edits and removed one piece that didn't have any citation and was a stand alone segment. From my perspective it appeared as a statement, I didn't think it fit properly with Wikipedia's guidelines. Thank you for the response, hopefully the article was improved. I would like to see others far more capable than myself give it some attention though. Keep the discussion going.:) [[User:Varnellr16|Varnellr16]] ([[User talk:Varnellr16|talk]]) 08:05, 11 November 2018 (UTC) |
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All the picture in the lead says is "Wakuni City, Japan" with no hint as to why it's there. Can someone think up a more useful caption to it and explain how it related to the possible benefits of multilingualism?--[[User:Megaman en m|Megaman en m]] ([[User talk:Megaman en m|talk]]) 09:55, 28 June 2019 (UTC) |
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This article is or was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Megannd1993 (article contribs). Peer reviewers: Megannd1993. This article is or was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Sydneyweigert, Taypetro, Leahgray, Betsygorman (article contribs). This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 24 September 2018 and 7 December 2018. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Varnellr16 (article contribs). Peer reviewers: Natalie Bond.
article needs to be edited and expanded...adding it to my talk page. (Patrick 10:03, 12 May 2006 (UTC))
No offense, but this article seems to be pretty POV, although maybe that's the nature of the subject. Afterall, it's 'Cognative ADVANDATGES'. --65.35.146.19 05:20, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
I also do not wish to give offense, but I must agree with the above comment, and Wikipedia's tag about the article having "multiple issues." Assertions are unsupported, and this is not even a sentence: "The different connotations and ideas around a word has in the different languages the child knows allows the child to build a more complex understanding of the word at a younger age." It reads like the wishful thinking of a parent in denial. CousinJohn (talk) 04:16, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
The previous comments about this article are still accurate. Perhaps the title of the article could be changed to something more neutral, for instance ‘Cognitive Impact of Bilingualism’? Some of the section headings are also quite vague. While the history section provides a relatively unbiased view of previous research into the cognitive effects of bilingualism, having a section titled ‘Language’ in an article that is about a facet of language is rather confusing. I believe the organization could be improved by more clearly differentiating the ‘History’ section from the remaining sections devoted to the impact of bilingualism on specific cognitive functions. However, the use of specific studies within the individual sections is very helpful. --FionaJEd (talk) 18:50, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
- What kind of wording would be acceptable as to politically correct describe "advantages"? Is it just in the cognitive area that this is inappropriate, or should we think about speaking more neutrally about, say, the amount of wealth and the "advantages" it may provide? Perhaps saying just "differences of opportunities", not implying that having more access to a variety of "resources" is necessarily "advantageous"? Or, still more related with this subject, perhaps one should pay attention to the articles dealing with the levels of education and vocabulary still in a single language; I fear there may be passages expressing the POV that more education and larger vocabulary may be "advantageous", even cognitively (in fact, the IQ-related studies probably cite the positive correlation of IQ and vocabulary, and are likely to say that higher IQ is "advantageous" to some degree). The same applies for skill acquisitions in general, like math, musical, artistic, or professional training. Who's to say that an skill is an "advantage"? And maybe we should question whether an individual not having acquired any language at all implies in a cognitive "deficit", as it's just the implicit affirmation of an advantage for language acquisition. And if a single language is deemed advantageous over none, that could be used to try to support the POV that more languages may be additionally advantageous. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.74.188.62 (talk) 14:55, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
I agree the article has a few neutrality issues and I am hoping to contribute by editing some of the subjective language with appropriate citations and give a more well-rounded discussion of the topic. I would like to work on the Executive functions sections. I have a few articles I am considering adding to the page. I would appreciate any thoughts and advice. Articles: 1) Gollan, T., Fennema-Notestine, C., Montoya, R. and Jernigan, T. (2007, March). The bilingual effect on Boston Naming Test performance. Journal of the International Neuropsychological Society, 13(02). 2) Bialystok, E., Craik, F. and Luk, G. (2008). Lexical access in bilinguals: Effects of vocabulary size and executive control. Journal of Neurolinguistics, 21(6), pp.522-538. 3) Best, J., Miller, P. and Naglieri, J. (2011). Relations between executive function and academic achievement from ages 5 to 17 in a large, representative national sample. Learning and Individual Differences, 21(4), pp.327-336. 4) Ransdell, S., & Fischler, I. (1987). Memory in a monolingual mode: When are bilinguals at a disadvantage?. Journal Of Memory And Language, 26(4), 392-405. doi: 10.1016/0749-596x(87)90098-2 5) Ivanova, I., & Costa, A. (2008). Does bilingualism hamper lexical access in speech production?. Acta Psychologica, 127(2), 277-288. doi: 10.1016/j.actpsy.2007.06.003 6) Rosselli, M., Ardila, A., Araujo, K., Weekes, V., Caracciolo, V., Padilla, M., & Ostrosky-Solí, F. (2000). Verbal Fluency and Repetition Skills in Healthy Older Spanish-English Bilinguals. Applied Neuropsychology, 7(1), 17-24. doi: 10.1207/s15324826an0701_3 7) Colzato, L., Bajo, M., van den Wildenberg, W., Paolieri, D., Nieuwenhuis, S., La Heij, W., & Hommel, B. (2008). How does bilingualism improve executive control? A comparison of active and reactive inhibition mechanisms. Journal Of Experimental Psychology: Learning, Memory, And Cognition, 34(2), 302-312. doi: 10.1037/0278-7393.34.2.302 8) Blom, E., Boerma, T., Bosma, E., Cornips, L., & Everaert, E. (2017, April, 21). Cognitive Advantages of Bilingual Children in Different Sociolinguistic Contexts. Frontiers In Psychology, 8. doi: 10.3389/fpsyg.2017.00552 9) de Bruin, A., Treccani, B., & Della Sala, S. (2014). Cognitive Advantage in Bilingualism: An Example of Publication Bias?. Psychological Science, 26(1), 99-107. doi: 10.1177/0956797614557866 Gblakistone1 (talk) 19:02, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
I think this would be a better title, because it's more general; bilingualism is a subset of multilingualism and also redirects to multilingualism. @Trappist the monk, Boghog, and Gblakistone1: any thoughts? Catrìona (talk) 01:19, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hey there Catrìona I agree. I think if it were a little more general as you mentioned or even: "The Cognitive Effects of Bilingualism," it would stand on a little more on neutral grounds. Overall, I think the work in the article has potential and should be appreciated. I would like to potentially contribute where I can and give it some more attention. Take care all Varnellr16 (talk) 00:24, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
Adding changes to "Cognitive advantages of multilingualism" Varnellr16 (talk) 07:05, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
Hello everyone, I wanted to let whoever views this page know I am wanting to try and contribute some edits that I have made in my sandbox of this page. I reworked some sections and changed up some lines which I thought could stand to be a little more neutrally conveyed. Under the section titled "Is bilingualism or executive control the causative force?" I am still unsure as to whether or not the name should be changed. I won't try and change it, I just thought that it should be brought into attention to see what other peoples perspective is on it. In my honest opinion I think it is POV and expresses a possible bias that could make the entirety of the article appear a little more personal than it should be. I thoroughly enjoy the collection of information and all of the people who have contributed to the article. It's such an interesting topic and I would love to see more attention drawn to get it up to a higher grade level. Anyway feel free to let me know what you think of my edits. I would love to be a part of such an incredible topic. Kind regards. Varnellr16 (talk) 07:05, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Varnellr16: Thanks for your work on this article! I changed the heading of that section. This isn't a high traffic article (<10 views per day), so you shouldn't be shy about making changes to the article directly, although you can keep using your sandbox if you prefer. Catrìona (talk) 22:26, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
- Hello Catrìona, Just worked on the article a fair amount. Added an image from wikicommons. I made some edits and removed one piece that didn't have any citation and was a stand alone segment. From my perspective it appeared as a statement, I didn't think it fit properly with Wikipedia's guidelines. Thank you for the response, hopefully the article was improved. I would like to see others far more capable than myself give it some attention though. Keep the discussion going.:) Varnellr16 (talk) 08:05, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
Pointless picture in the lead
All the picture in the lead says is "Wakuni City, Japan" with no hint as to why it's there. Can someone think up a more useful caption to it and explain how it related to the possible benefits of multilingualism?--Megaman en m (talk) 09:55, 28 June 2019 (UTC)