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Yolo tag team titles

Sooo.... how will we handle the YOLO County tag team titles? Otis and Tucker have the "titles" in their C&A section, there is even an article for the title. WWE Yolo County Tag Team Championship. For me, I would remove the entire thing, looks more like a joke. It's not even sure if WWE will follow the joke or storyline. It's like the "Champion of Liechtenstein" or ""Mexican Heavyweight Champion". --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 11:00, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Personal note. I'm scared of reddit users. This is the kind of thing they love and, if we remove it, they will start to complain. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 11:20, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

As far as I can tell there is no reason for it. They were not announced on air as champions and there appears to be no recognition. If kept, it should be treated more like FTW or Million Dollar championships. - Galatz גאליץ^{שיחה Talk} 12:07, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

" presumably through one of their connections with a minor local promotion in Yolo County, California. " in the lede is scary. Wikipedia should not presume anything. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:22, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

No recognition? WWE did an official "new champions with their belts" photo shoot. MPJ-DK (talk) 12:47, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

However... their WWE profile is empty. For me, it's just a joke, like Flair's KFC royal rumble win, a Mexican Heavyweight title or Gargano's Liechtenstein title. I created the AfD for the titles. About the C&A section.... --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 12:53, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

"To me" is like the poster child start to original Research. Lack of WWE updates do not prove anything. Maybe the WWE were as surprised as we were that it was not a unification match as originally scheduled. You don't know that for a fact MPJ-DK (talk) 15:47, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

They're cardboard belts. Seriously, this is an obvious joke angle. oknazevad (talk) 12:56, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

biodegradable and environmental, was the wooden belt a joke? MPJ-DK (talk) 13:01, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

We all have seen title represented by other thing than belts. The Queen of FCW (a crown), the FCW 15 championship (medal), Progress title ("large staff with an eagle head piece")... but i'm asking if the title is a one night joke or it's gonna be part of WWE programing. Like Lieschstein or mexican heavyweight titles. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 13:20, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

The hemo and wood belt was a gimmick, and reverted as soon as he lost. This I see as WWE mocking low-budget indies. But all of that doesn't really matter, because the storyline is a day old and we don't need to jump into a whole article for something like this. WP:TOOSOON applies. oknazevad (talk) 13:24, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Yeah I do not understand why this was ever added to Wikipedia. As Matt Hardy would say, "delete delete delete". We also need to remove it from their C&A sections. StaticVapor message me! 13:33, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

• it has a more credible introduction than the IC belt, this was not a "tournament in Rio" after all, as for "it is a joke" i am thinking we will need a very reliable source on that or it would be Original Research to.interpret this as a joke. Oh and it was won as legitimately as any other championship, the outcome of a predetermined match. MPJ-DK (talk) 14:52, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
  • That might be so, but it was never announced to be a title match and they were not announced as having won the titles after the match. So is it really more legit? The Greatest Royal Rumble championship belt had more than that yet its article got deleted. - Galatz גאליץ^{שיחה Talk} 14:59, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

• Your point is moot, the WWE themselves posted a video of the champions with their belts afterward. And who decides when a wwe championship is real? WWE, just like they did with the Million $ Championship, or did someone think DiBiase just made that up? All.championships are "hoaxes" in the way wrestling is not a competitive sport where you actually win. I see this a material discrimination against cardboard. MPJ-DK (talk) 15:07, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

I think your argument is "ab absurdo". The argument is "wrestling is fake/scripted, so let's include every single title". --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 15:28, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

I never said that, I said claiming "it is fake" as an argument against this is not valid. I did not state here that this was a reason to not delete, just that it was not a reason tobdelete. Same words, differnt order, opposite meaning. So please do not put words in my mouth. Thanks. MPJ-DK (talk) 15:41, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

• We have zero evidence of long-term notability. It's been two days. And, unlike the 24/7 title, the belts are cardboard, not the typical leather-and-metal that indicates it's sticking around. It doesn't deserve an article yet, if ever. There's WP:NODEADLINE. We can wait to see. oknazevad (talk) 15:09, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Se have zero evidence that it won't just because it isn't made with tye typical materials. Don't be sobclose minded, it may be a cost cutting measure, we don't know that. MPJ-DK (talk) 15:41, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

• Here's the question - Does it meet WP:GNG? Probably. Is it something better covered in another article? Those are the only two questions on if there should be an article on the belt. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:49, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Technically the GNG question is the only one that matters, which you said "probably ", so i suggest a bold strategy, let us see how it plays out.MPJ-DK (talk) 16:01, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
    • No it's not the only question that matters. There are plenty of things that are better covered within another article.
    • Now, does it meet GNG? Don't know. The only non-primary source that would be even mentioning this is WP:ROUTINE coverage by pro-wrestling-specific websites; as it is we give too much importance to that sort of routine coverage in determining notability. As for the "better covered in another article" question, the only place i can see it being mentioned is Heavy Machinery's article as part of the storyline. No, we don't know if it's just for this one storyline. But we also don't know that it is not. Any conclusion one way or the other is equally speculative and therefore inappropriate to endorse, which is exactly what having a separate article does. The assumption is unfounded, premature, and based on synthesizing separate facts to draw a conclusion. There is no harm in holding off, and waiting to see what develops. There is no rush, there is no deadline, and Wikipedia is an encyclopdia, not a newspaper. oknazevad (talk) 16:10, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
      • I will let Lee Vilensk answer that one since he is the only one making a statement on if the subject meets GNG, don't want to speak on his behalf of why he said "probay"MPJ-DK (talk) 16:23, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
        • I think it most likely meets GNG. I'm sure if I searched enough, I'd be able to find plenty of RS that comment on the this; which is why I said probably. The issues are regarding WP:1E and if this should be commented on elsewhere. It is potentially WP:TOOSOON for an article, as it could potentially be only one event, however, as an article already exists, deleting it would mean that any new title that is created should only have an article after a certain period of time. Titles only held by one person (or only known by one user) should be in that person's page until a WP:SPLIT. I have no problems with an article here, and if it's turned into a single event, redirect and place information into another article. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:40, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Since we are slinging OR here i got my own take on it. The WWE is paying homage to the territory days with this championship. Territories would often bring in an outside, "billed as champion upon arrival " have them lose to a local guy and bingo, championship without holding a tournament. Also wwe is concerned about the earth so the belts are recyclable, if someone throws it off a bridge (has happened before) it will not harm the environment. Also i applaud WWE for giving fans a low cost option to have a replica championship belt to show off their fandom. So not a hoax or a joke. MPJ-DK (talk) 16:18, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

The only part of that that I can even remotely agree with is the first part. The rest of it is such a stretch that one would have to be more flexible than one can even get doing DDP Yoga. Like, it seems like you are joking yourself. Frankly, I can't take you seriously on this. oknazevad (talk) 16:23, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Just putting other unsoruced arguments out there so that "it is a joke" does stand alone in people putting their own interpretations on in and use is as an argument for/against something. And how you chose to take it is cool with me, i don't judge. Am i being facetious? Serious? Trying to show what is and is not a deletion argument etc.? I may not even know myself any more ;-) MPJ-DK (talk) 16:37, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

It has enough sources to meet GNG, however as does basically every championship title change. Thats why we have WP:FORK. Could everything be summed up in 2 sentences within another page, absolutely. Therefore, it shouldn't have its own page. The Million Dollar Championship was active for 4 years. So far this had 1 night. Its impossible right now to know what will happen, which is why too soon applies here. - Galatz גאליץ^{שיחה Talk} 17:52, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Nothing in that link has to do with this discussion, i am sure you meant content fork, not off Wikipedia copying. MPJ-DK (talk) 18:47, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, WP:CFORK. It can be included in another article, it does not warrant its own. At least night at this point. - Galatz גאליץ^{שיחה Talk} 18:51, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Did you read it? Very first line defines in at A content fork is the creation of multiple separate articles (or passages within articles) all treating the same subject. So that is not actually what is happening here, there no content that it was split off from, it did not fork off something. So again not actually a valid argument in this case. Your argument could apply to any championship list. /the more you know.MPJ-DK (talk) 19:02, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

This seems like a TNA World Beer Drinking Championship situation to me, but the only thing we can do right now is wait. This discussion isn't going to get very far until SmackDown next week. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:31, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

I think too it's best to wait till the next episodes. Meltzer said on his radio the idea behind this angles is likely again to make wrestling outside WWE look like a joke (I think this is also obvious). We will see if they run further with the angle so that it may become relevant, it's unlikely this will become an actual title though. --Casra (talk) 17:13, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

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Can someone please tell me how to join this wiki project ? TheWWEThunderbolt (talk) 06:49, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Read here. --JDC808 ♫ 07:05, 17 June 2019 (UTC)