Talk:Homi Bhabha

Cleanup

I agree with the clean up tag. This article appeared to lean heavily on the Harvard profile.

My reason for adding the tag was more to do with the fact that article is poorly laid out and formatted, to be honest. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 18:06, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

I would like to learn more about formatting. Please advise? (But I also think the critical theory section needs substantive work.)Joaquin Murietta 23:08, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Critical theory section needs work

Could one of the CT experts please take another whack at this section? Thanks. Joaquin Murietta 18:48, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Publications list?

Is there any objection to adding the following section, even though the books are discussed in the Critical theory section?

Just one minor objection: El Lugar de La Cultura is just the Spanish translation The Location of Culture is the original, so it seems more accurate to use it instead. --JECompton 06:42, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

thank you, do you have the citation?Joaquin Murietta 07:07, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

Publications

• Nation and Narration (1990) ISBN 0415014832
• Editor Edward Said Continuing the Conversation (2005) ISBN 0226532038
• El Lugar de La Cultura (2002)ISBN 9875000744
• Identity: The Real Me ISBN 0905263464

Joaquin Murietta 15:07, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Homi Bhabha, physicist

I think the Indian physicist Homi J. Bhabha is more famous to readers (He was a pioneer of the Indian nuclear program). Homi Bhabha in my opinion should redirect to the physicist's homepage (or atleast there should be a disambiguation page) --Rev.bayes 21:13, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Actually both are equally quite famous in their own fields --hydkat 12:06, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree with Rev.bayes here. I think Homi Bhabha (scientist) is more famous. - Aksi_great (talk) 21:25, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

"Prose Style"

Why is there so much space devoted to criticizing Bhabha's writing style? And why does some obscure "award" that serves only to insult Bhabha deserve mention on his sparsely written page? Hay4 15:57, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry but to be in any way comprehensive any article on Bhabha should make reference to his writing style. In fact its because of his prose that he's received wider name recognition outside his discipline. Google his name and 'prose' or 'bad writing' you'll see what I mean.

Moreover, the contents conform to wikipedia's NPOV guidelines - they're all from cited sources. Bhabha's response to the criticism is included in the section.

If you follow Bhabha's logic he doesn't think that that criticism of his prose is personally 'insulting' - as you do. In his view, his style is a requirement of the post colonial condition, and therefore not something that he personally can be held accountable for. (I do note that there's no citation supporting Bhabha's response so perhaps if anything should be removed from this section under Wikipedia's guidelines it is the last paragraph.)

By the way it was naughty of you to delete my contribution without allowing me to reply first to the above, but I'll forgive you on one condition: you can explain to me what Bhabha means (if anything) when he says:

If, for a while, the ruse of desire is calculable for the uses of discipline soon the repetition of guilt, justification, pseudo-scientific theories, superstition, spurious authorities, and classifications can be seen as the desperate effort to "normalize" formally the disturbance of a discourse of splitting that violates the rational, enlightened claims of its enunciatory modality.

Rick James Style 23:48, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

I did not come to know of Bhabha because of his writing style and a google search of "Homi Bhabha" reveals no pages that talk about his "bad" writing style. Can you provide any evidence that Bhabha is famous becuase of his "bad writing"? Pointing to links that turn up when you specifically google his name and "bad writing" is pretty weak. If Bhabha is famous BECAUSE of his poor writing skills, there should be a number of reputable sources stating so. Because this is not the case, you will not find those sources. It's utterly silly to devote so much space to smearing Bhabha. Sorry. Hay4 04:10, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

If you're not aware of pages on the web that refer to Homi Bhabha's "bad writing" style then you didn't look very hard. The first reference on google is his runner up place in Philosophy and Literature's Bad Writing Award. Hey, if you hadn't deleted the link on the wiki page you could have found it even quicker.

I can see that debating with you over a subjective notion of whether Bhabha is famous for his prose style isn't going to get us very far. Besides the Philosophy and Literature award, his prose has been the subject of articles both within academia and in middle brow, but widely read, publications such as the National Review or Canada's National Post.

Anyway, the point is not whether he's known for his prose style (me -'yes', you - 'no') but whether the content of the page conforms to wikipedia's guidelines? And here the answer's clear - every reference to Bhabha's prose style is linked to reputable publications. So as you keep deleting the content, the question is: are you aware of wikipedia's guidelines? Rick James Style 11:53, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Do you really think a professor of English and Literature at Harvard is a flat-out incoherent writer? Do you really think that referencing two ultra-right wing periodicals a journal no one has ever heard of (with a non-functioning link) constitutes good research? Maybe these rightists are smearing Bhabha and giving him "awards" because he's a leftist and a foreigner. Holy crap, I solved the riddle! Your "contribution" is an obvious smear. Congrats. Hay4 12:33, 28 November 2006 (UTC)