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In any case, both pages need a lot of work, bearing in mind that this is likely to be somewhere people come when they are first actively trying to learn about autism. There is much pathologising language that could be rewritten without compromising Wikipedia's NPOV policy. In fact, the heavily medical and deficit-based framing used in many places should be understood to represent a quite specific point of view on the autism spectrum, and one which many autistic people (as well as many psychologists, family members and other interested parties) do not share. |
In any case, both pages need a lot of work, bearing in mind that this is likely to be somewhere people come when they are first actively trying to learn about autism. There is much pathologising language that could be rewritten without compromising Wikipedia's NPOV policy. In fact, the heavily medical and deficit-based framing used in many places should be understood to represent a quite specific point of view on the autism spectrum, and one which many autistic people (as well as many psychologists, family members and other interested parties) do not share. |
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: Very much agreed that [[autism]] should be pointing to [[autism spectrum]]. I also think [[low-functioning autism]], [[high-functioning autism]], and [[Asperger syndrome]] should all be on a single page as well. I imagine there's a lot of overlap between all of those pages. --[[User:Anomalapropos|Anomalapropos]] ([[User talk:Anomalapropos|talk]]) 02:48, 25 July 2019 (UTC) |
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Work to be done
So there's a lot of work to be done on autism Twitter, eh? I really think autism should be pointing to autism spectrum by now, as per DSM-5 and most current discourse. It's possible the current article there should be renamed 'classic autism' or 'Kanner autism' or something.
In any case, both pages need a lot of work, bearing in mind that this is likely to be somewhere people come when they are first actively trying to learn about autism. There is much pathologising language that could be rewritten without compromising Wikipedia's NPOV policy. In fact, the heavily medical and deficit-based framing used in many places should be understood to represent a quite specific point of view on the autism spectrum, and one which many autistic people (as well as many psychologists, family members and other interested parties) do not share. --Oolong (talk) 21:39, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
- Very much agreed that autism should be pointing to autism spectrum. I also think low-functioning autism, high-functioning autism, and Asperger syndrome should all be on a single page as well. I imagine there's a lot of overlap between all of those pages. --Anomalapropos (talk) 02:48, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
Urgent
This project needs to re-activate, as there is a serious issue throughout the Autism article base. A biased user is trying to game the system to press Autism in a negative light. User:Ylevental has promoted people who hate it such as Jonathan Mitchell, David Miedzianik, Benjamin Alexander, Thomas McKean and has tried the same with Thomas Clements and Jill Escher. He created National Council on Severe Autism for the same reason and has tried to promote Donald Triplett, NeuroTribes and In a Different Key negatively. He has also tried to snow AfD nominations for most recently Julia Bascom as well as John Elder Robison, Jim Sinclair, Autistic Pride Day, Wrong Planet, Aspies for Freedom, Amy Sequenzia, the Autistic Self Advocacy Network and Autism Network International. He needs to be watched closely as he is not adhering properly to WP:NPV and can't possibly do so. He has already admitted to a COI with Mitchell here. He has also gamed the system on Wikiquote for the record. We need users onto this and keep his nonsense in check. 2001:8003:58DD:C700:64C6:7BB2:D963:2A7D (talk) 01:57, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
I will look into this - Nolan Perry Yell at me! 02:44, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
invitation to an RfC regarding Bruno Bettelheim
As I understand, Leo Kanner came up with the refrigerator mother theory, although not that exact phrase. And both Kanner and Bettelheim helped to popularize, although not working together. And of course the 1950s and '60s were squarely in the heyday of psychoanalysts, Freudian theory, and blaming parents for all kinds of things, including a child or teenager being on the autism spectrum, being LGBTQ, having learning differences such as dyslexia, etc, etc.
Our Request for Comment is entitled 'RfC: how to cover someone who doesn't have credentials for their field?'
The specific question is entitled 'Should our lead sentence describe Bettelheim as a "child psychologist"?'
My goal is to neither be timid nor go overboard with the quality references we already have, and perhaps some additional references as well. I want us to summarize our references right down the line, no more, no less.
If this topic interests you, your participation is of course very much welcome. Thanks. FriendlyRiverOtter (talk) 20:18, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
Potential BLPs To Do
- Judy Endow
- Maxfield Sparrow
- Amythest Schaber
- Rudy Simone
- Sara Jane Harvey
- Joe Biel (Microcosm Publishing)
- C.L. Lynch
Just finished the page for Judy Endow, but I thought I'd list some other autistic people I think are notable enough to add to Wikipedia, in case anyone was looking for a project to do. --Anomalapropos (talk) 02:41, 25 July 2019 (UTC)