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July 26

Questionable content recently added to Tracy Nelson (singer) page

Some highly suspect info has been recently added to the Tracy Nelson (singer) page. What should be done to challenge and/or correct this information? This involves the original version of her signature song "Down So Low". I have written a complete summary of my suspicions in the "Talk" section of her page. Thanks for any advice. Chukmunk (talk) 00:47, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion regarding Tracy Nelson (singer). When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the edit this page link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). MrClog (talk) 00:59, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Followup to question re: Tracy Nelson (singer) page

I've done quite a bit of editing over the last few years so I know the process. My question is, if I delete what I believe to be bogus information from the text, what is to prevent the same party from adding it back in? In other words, who gets to be the arbiter of what is correct or erroneous content? (Thanks for the quick response) Chukmunk (talk) 01:33, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

@Chukmunk: Please read WP:BRD. You boldly change, the other editor editor reverts, and then you discuss it the issue on the article's talk page. This is supposed to be a collaborative effort to reach consensus, not some sort of contest. If You cannot reach consensus, you ask for help using the mechanisms desribed at WP:DISPUTE. Note that material in any article should be refernced to a reliable source (WP:RS), and any unreferenced contested material about a living person MUST be removed immediately (WP:BLP).-Arch dude (talk) 01:41, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Additions to TV Stations

Why are the additions "Former On-Air staff" "Past On-Air Staff" and "Notable Former On-Air Staff" allowed in articles on some TV stations, but not allow in the articles on other TV stations? Why are those additions not allowed on ALL TV station articles?Douglassriverview (talk) 18:02, 26 July 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Douglassriverview (talk • contribs)

Douglassriverview If you can get tens of thousands of volunteer editors from all over the world to get on the same page about article formats, power to you. It's just the way it is. If you could be more specific about the articles involved, you can be given better advice. It's possible each article has unique circumstances. 331dot (talk) 02:57, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

I've tried to add the same notations on other TV stations, but each time they've been deleted by the "Wikipedia Executive Editors" or whoever they are and whatever they are. There is nothing to be specific about. It's simple... Readers find it interesting to learn the fates of former news reporters and anchors who were well known to the TV station's viewers. That's apparent. It's why the addition is made to SOME stations. But to include the notations on those stations and not ALL stations is discrimination.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Douglassriverview (talk • contribs)

Douglassriverview As I indicated, this is a volunteer project and as such it is sometimes difficult to establish a cohesive format or layout for articles. Different people edit different things; some only edit the TV station that interests them personally, some do stations in their own area but not worldwide, and so on. There is no deliberate discrimination.

Please read other stuff exists. Other similar content being on other articles does not automatically mean that it is permitted elsewhere. Since your edit history does not indicate any edits to any articles, I assume you used a different account or edited while logged out to make your edits. It is difficult to give further guidance without knowing specific articles involved, but you can certainly start a formal Request for Comment to establish a general consensus for any particular format of a class of articles that you want to see. There may also be relevant WikiProjects which are usually mentioned on the article talk page which might have a place for you to discuss this issue. There are no "executive editors" here; there are 'administrators' like me, but we have no special status, just some buttons that would be irresponsible to the project for everyone to have. 331dot (talk) 13:02, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Please sign your posts as I will describe on your user talk page. Thanks 331dot (talk) 13:02, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much. This information is very helpful. I will follow your instructions, making the addition to one of the stations that I know about, then signing it.Douglassriverview (talk) 18:02, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

@Douglassriverview: As 331dot said, there are no "executive editors". All of us (all 200,000 in the last 30 days, including you) have equal rights and responsabilities. We are supposed to collaborate, not fight, and we mostly do. collaboration for an article is done on the article's talk page. Any group of interested editors may choose to create a wikiproject to collaborate on an area of interest and try for consistency. Each project does collaboration on the project talk page and documents its results on its project page. One such project is Wikipedia:WikiProject Television Stations. If you are so inclined, you may discuss the inconsistency on that project's talk page and try to reach consensus. If there is already project-wide consensus, then you can mention it in you edit summary on any particular article or any ensuing discussion about your edit on the article's talk page. -Arch dude (talk) 14:55, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Again, I appreciate the feedback. I will proceed from your suggestions. The objective is to place accurate information as others have in an article, and not have that same type of entry judged differently.Douglassriverview (talk) 18:02, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Problem with alerts and notices gagdets

Yesterday, I clicked on the alerts and notices gadgets on top of the Wikipedia UI and selected "Mark all as read".

As a result, the gadgets now are in "active" state (alerts gadget is red and notices gadget is blue) all the time, unless I click on them, so they turn gray. And the next time I go to another Wikipedia page, they are in "active" state again.

How can I resolve this problem? JIP | Talk 08:49, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

I don't have the issue but haven't used "Mark all" recently. There are similar reports at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#The notification button and phab:T228744. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:50, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Account status

My account is more than 4 days old and I have made more than 10 edits, and yet I am not an autoconfirmed user. Please check this issue. My username is Ibrahimsabotaleb120

Ibrahimsabotaleb120 Your account is not quite four days old yet, you still have a few hours. 331dot (talk) 11:51, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Composer for Black and White 2

Hello,

My name is Craig Beattie and I have noticed that on the Black and White 2 page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_%26_White_2 that the composer is credited to Paul Romero. This is completely incorrect as I composed all the music and sound effects for the game while working at Lionhead studios. I tried to edit the page myself, but the in information got reverted and my IP address got blocked.

Please check links for evidence https://www.last.fm/music/Craig+Beattie https://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,25385/ There is also a credits video somebody had uploaded go to 3.05 in the video timeline https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD9jiw_uO8c

Many Thanks

Craig Beattie

I don't believe your IP address has been blocked(if you used the one I think you used). If it had been, you would now be evading your block by posting here. Related to your question, Wikipedia uses whatever reliable sources state. In the case of the composer of the game's music, I presume this is stated in the credits of the game. If the credits of the game indicate you are the composer, please bring this up on the article talk page. If the credits are not correct, you will need some other source indicating you are the composer; your word is not sufficient, as 1) we have no way of knowing you are who you state you are and 2) all information must be verifiable. If the credits are incorrect, that is something you will need to take up with the game manufacturer and not with Wikipedia(which again, only uses what sources state). 331dot (talk) 12:50, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

do autoconfirmed users have their new articles reviewed as well?

Hi, my account is Ibrahimsabotaleb120 ... I am an autoconfirmed user ... When I published an article, it was not published directly. Instead, it was sent to review. My undersntanding is that my article could be published directly without review because I am an autoconfirmed user. Please help me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ibrahimsabotaleb120 (talk • contribs) 12:46, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

As I already informed you, you still have a few hours to go before you are officially autoconfirmed. Even if so, you would likely benefit from an independent review of your draft, as writing a new article is more difficult than most new users think it is. Please use Articles for Creation to submit it. 331dot (talk) 12:50, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Your draft will be reviewed in due course, but the outcome of the review is inevitable. It will be declined because you have made no effort to provide references to published reliable sources. If you had published it directly to mainspace it would have been liable to deletion. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:53, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Per David's comments, I have declined the draft as unreferenced. It seems likely that the subject can pass notability but sources are needed. Eagleash (talk) 13:33, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Federal Employees' Retirement System

I am new to Wikipedia and do not know how to handle the page for FERS. The current page is misnamed in the URL and title. There should be an apostrophe in both. The official name is "Federal Employees' Retirement System" (with an apostrophe). The current Wikipedia page has no apostrophe, and the page with the apostrophe redirects to the incorrectly-titled page. The U.S. Code that legally established the name is at https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title5/part3/subpartG/chapter84&edition=prelim and has an apostrophe. The title and URL needs to be changed and then other pages need to be redirected to the correct page. I edited the article, but do not want to mess up the URLs and title. Thank you.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Federalhelp (talk • contribs)

Federalhelp You will want to propose a page move to move the page to a new title(I'm not sure if the apostrophe presents technical issues or not); please visit Requested Moves to do that. 331dot (talk) 13:14, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

@Federalhelp: Note also that our convention is to use the most commonly used name for an organization, not necessarily the official name. The name is very commonly used without the apostrophe, e.g. at benefits.gov. -Arch dude (talk) 15:11, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

How to title pages and submit from Sandbox?

How do I title articles in sandbox before I submit it for review?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Fortyfifthroad (talk • contribs)

You don't; if approved, the reviewer will move it to the proper title. 331dot (talk) 17:05, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Is it just me?

Resolved

For some reason the subsection header Advertisements doesn't appear in the List of individual dogs #Actors section; but it does appear in the ToC. I can't find anything obviously wrong. —2606:A000:1126:28D:C0AD:DDC4:E53A:2C93 (talk) 17:19, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

I can see the heading. Do you have a browser extension installed that tries to block adverts? It may be getting confused. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:23, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

That's it -- how strange. Thanks! —2606:A000:1126:28D:C0AD:DDC4:E53A:2C93 (talk) 17:28, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

I changed it to "Advertising", which works fine, but doesn't sit well with me. Any better ideas? 107.15.157.44 (talk) 19:38, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Factual question

so why can i not put something that is factually correct on someones page— Preceding unsigned comment added by Triggerrabbit (talk • contribs) 26 July 2019 21:08 (UTC)

@Triggerrabbit: Assuming this relates to Wayne Mardle, an explanation has bee provided at your talk page. Additions have to be reliably sourced and encyclopedic. The fact that someone has never won a particular competition is not worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia. The best advice would be for you to stop trying to add the statement before you lose editing privileges. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 21:28, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

What does, needs @ on password mean.

Couldn't remember password and the crappy email makes no sense. Needs @ don't @ at the beginning end etc etc fucking thing still don't work. Wikipedia is shit--Signed by User:81.156.36.64

Calm down and try again tomorrow. A valid email address must have an @-Sing, and there must be something before and behind the @. See also H:Login 85.199.71.125 (talk) 04:35, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Edit conflict with myself each time I make a change, wtf?

Every time I save an edit, I'm getting an edit conflict with myself, and often my one change will become 2 changes in the article history, the final change merely being an update to the time of my last edit. Looks like one of my 'gadgets' is malfunctioning perhaps? Ratel (talk) 23:51, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Yes. I often get similar symptoms. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:50, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Ratel, David Biddulph – I am relieved to read that it is not just me. I wish it were avoidable. It happens so much that I tend to assume that the ec warning is spurious unless it's a very busy page. Even then, I still have to click more than I'd like to get rid of it because someone somewhere (Chrome perhaps?) is trying to save me from quitting a semi-edited page so I have to confirm that too. It's not always been like that, just the last month or three, and I have no idea whether it's caused by any change that I have made, or by some behaviour that I do or don't carry out each time. It's enough to drive a chap to drink, except that I am already there, so hey. Best to all, DBaK (talk) 10:19, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

July 27

Privacy edit request

Is there any way to make something disappear from the edit history? At some point my wife's birthdate was put into her article. I have edited the article to give only the year, but anybody going back through the edit history can find the full birthdate. This is a bit of a privacy issue (Personally Identifiable Information); is there any way to fix it? Bgoldnyxnet (talk) 00:22, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Bgoldnyxnet I moved this to the correct place for you. Best wishes DBaK (talk) 11:17, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Help Changing Photo

Hi there,

I represent the actress Lori Singer. We're having trouble changing the photo on her Wikipedia page to one we own the rights to.

Could anyone assist us?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lori_Singer#cite_note-4

Many thanks, Brian — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brianariotti (talk • contribs) 00:23, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Before you make any further edits you need to make the mandatory declaration of paid editing. After that you can read the guidance on conflict of interest. Note that a photo to which you "own the rights" cannot be used on Wikipedia unless you donate the copyright or it is released under a suitable Creative Commons licence. David Biddulph (talk) 00:35, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

I have tagged the articles Lori Singer and God Knows Where I Am with undisclosed paid tags for now, I am currently looking through them to see if they follow policy. TheAwesomeHwyh 00:53, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Like David said, if you want the the photo to (no guarantee) be used on WP, you have to "give it to the world", so to speak. If that's ok, the copyrightholder can start here: [1]. If editors generally agrees it's a better photo, it can be used. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:52, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Adding vendor references without 'creating a directory' - seems inconsistently applied

Hi folks,

I'm new to Wikipedia and was interested in understanding this kind of edit "WP:NOT WP:DIRECTORY" (apologies if I don't get the formatting right there; link to the edit https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Operational_historian&diff=881114445&oldid=878666920)

There's currently a list of applications/vendors in "Time Series Database" (TSDB) that seems similar to what was removed in the above link on "Operational Historian".

Any guidance or clarification on this would be great - thank you.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Frito Lay On My Desk (talk • contribs)

Actually, if you will look at the talk page of that article, you will see that we were going to remove that list (which does reek of "directory" to me), until somebody came up with some sources which were neither from the manufacturers of those products, nor "reviews" which were clearly regurgitated press releases. Unless you can come up with analogous sources for the operational historian article, expect to see a mere directory again removed. (I would also suggest that you be explicit about who you work for, lest suspicions arise as to a possible conflict of interest behind some of your edits. --Orange Mike | Talk 05:04, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Adding item to current page

I want to add my Dinner Theatre to the list already on the site. How do I do it? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cafeluke (talk • contribs)

If someday the Café Luke in Slidell, Louisiana or any other dinner theater becomes notable enough to merit an article in an encyclopedia (hey, it could happen), then somebody without your obvious conflict of interest may take an interest in the topic, and write an impartial article, relying on information from reliable sources, and without any regard to how Ricky or Ginger or anybody else wants the place to be depicted. You, on the other hand, can do nothing of the sort, for reasons I hope are now obvious. --Orange Mike | Talk 04:57, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Multiple versions of an image

Greetings, wise inhabitants of the Help Desk. I want to use a cropped version of a Commons file inside an Infobox, but the Infobox template does not support cropping parameters. So am I right that the only way is to upload a new, cropped version of the file? If so, is there some way to make it an alternate version of the existing file, or do I just edit it and upload as a new, additional file? --Gronk Oz (talk) 06:51, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

See User:Maproom/cropping for an example of cropping an image within an infobox. Maproom (talk) 07:06, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

@Maproom: That is how it was originally set up, and it worked. But another editor removed that because the cropping parameters are not supported. I checked the template documentation (in this case it was {{Infobox scientist}}) and sure enough they are not there. So is it acceptable to use them anyway? I don't want to get into an edit way over something like that... --Gronk Oz (talk) 03:20, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Gronk Oz With the crop tool on Commons, an image can be cropped with just a few clicks. That's how I do this. You do have to set up the tool first. It is a new additional file with the default name "origfile (cropped).jpg". You didn't mention the file here, but if you want me to crop it, I'd be glad to. MB 04:31, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Okay, I will try that. They initial image was not mine, but is has CCSA-4 license so I guess I can upload a variation of it. I might not get to it tonight; real life is getting in the way.--Gronk Oz (talk) 09:13, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

@MB: Sorry, forgot to ping MB.--Gronk Oz (talk) 09:15, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Gronk Oz: my understanding is that no "unsupported parameters" are involved. Indeed, including unsupported parameters in a template never has any useful effect. The {{Infobox scientist}} template has a parameter "image", which is given a valid value. Maproom (talk) 07:58, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

@Maproom: the "image" parameter is valid, but bSize, cWidth, cHeight, oTop, and oLeft don't appear to be - those are the ones that control the cropping, and they are not mentioned in the template documentation.--Gronk Oz (talk) 09:13, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Gronk Oz, With Maproom's method, the cropping is done with markup within |image=, so those parameters are not part of the infobox. Take a closer look at the example (or make a separate file).MB 21:21, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Ah, I've got it at last! @Maproom and MB: - thanks for sticking with it.--Gronk Oz (talk) 00:13, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

South Philadelphia

I am amazed how gentrification affects your listings and history? South Philadelphia contains “Little Italy” not ill Ireland?? I never met or witnessed anyone there Irish, I do believe the Irish were in Germantown , but definitely not SOUTH PHILLY, The African American neighborhoods and Italian neighborhoods flourished there, and have always! Jesus , Lil Italy (Italian American)Fish Markets (African American) You white wash everything on this page, it is apparent and appalling like saying Chinatown in Philly was Irish!! 🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pdecarlo1 (talk • contribs)

@Pdecarlo1: If you have a concern about a specific article, you should address any comments about it to that article's talk page. Please understand that Wikipedia summarizes information that appears in independent reliable sources; if you have such sources to support your information, please offer them. 331dot (talk) 12:03, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

I don’t know who to ask

So I will ask here. I took a screen shot of the 2017- present Subaru Forester about 2 months ago and the class of car was rally car, I looked again today and it’s a crossover. I have a concern now, how can I get some information on this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:100a:b11d:bf62:f0fe:10b7:ef85:92ec (talk • contribs) 15:00, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Do you have a question about using or editing Wikipedia? If so, which article or image are you referring to? -Arch dude (talk) 15:42, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

This page is only for questions about how to use or edit Wikipedia. For answers to your questions you can ask Subaru directly through the 'Contact us' link on their website, or call or visit your local Subaru dealership. - cheers - Epinoia (talk) 15:55, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

The article is Subaru Forester. If you click on "View history" you can see who has edited the article between late May and late July, and if you click on "prev" you can see the individual edit differences. The article talk page is the best place to discuss the article content: the vehicle class has been discussed previously. TSventon (talk) 16:53, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

There was a discussion on this back in 2012, at Talk:Subaru_Forester#Decide_on_a_class! - it seems everybody struggles to put it into a single class (perhaps that's what "crossover" means). As mentioned above, each article has a "Talk page" devoted to discussing the content of that specific article - it would be the best place to engage people on your question. In this case it is at Talk:Subaru_Forester. --Gronk Oz (talk) 03:32, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Given about our caste wrong

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanniyar

Kindly remove the article My phone Number [redacted]

Please do not leave addresses or phone numbers here: they are visible to everybody. -Arch dude (talk) 17:12, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Vanniyar has references to reliable sources (see WP:RS) and the information is therefore verifiable (see WP:V). If you have references to other reliable sources that contradict these, we (0r you) can add those sources and state that the sources are contradictory. If you are not comfortable with editing the article, rasise you issues (and provide your sources) in the article's talk page. -Arch dude (talk) 17:18, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Special:Undelete/CIMLS request

We have noticed that CIMLS page has been deleted. We would like to understand the reason for deletion. Also, what is the process for activating the page.

Thanks, Izadk

Izadk I assume by "we" you mean you are a company representative. Please review and comply with WP:COI and WP:PAID. The article was deleted because it did not indicate that your company meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable company, which you can read at WP:ORG. Not every company merits an article here, even within the same field. Notability is determined by significant coverage in independent reliable sources. Even if your company meets the criteria, your conflict of interest will prevent you from writing about it. 331dot (talk) 18:04, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Information use request

I would like to use information about Missiles and Rockets for a book

John Williams

As long as you give attribution, you may use Wikipedia information if you wish, though Wikipedia is not a reliable source and not usually appropriate for a scholarly or similar work. You may want to use the sources Wikipedia uses in the relevant articles. 331dot (talk) 18:19, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

For the tedious details, see Wikipedia:Copyrights. Please read the license (WP:CC-BY-SA) carefully, since by actually copying creative material from Wikipedia into your book, you are required to license the result to any third party under the same license, and you or your publisher may not want to do that. If you just copy facts ("information") and not creative material (e.g., whole sentences or paragraphs), you are not infringing any copyright, but you should still cite Wikipedia if you use it as a matter of ethical practice and scholarship. -Arch dude (talk) 18:41, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Semi-government company page creation

I need to create a page for a semi-government project from middle east. Please help me create it. I have citations from well-known news portals. Can anyone help me out. Thanks in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2019-07-27T20:05:29 (talk • contribs) Drashtimehta03 (UTC)

Please read WP:YFA and follow the instructions and guidelines there. If you ten have difficulties, come back here. -Arch dude (talk) 22:04, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

However, Drashtimehta03, if you start by saying that you need to create a page, you almost certainly need to read What Wikipedia is not. A Wikipedia article does not belong to anybody, and is not for anybody's benefit, except Wikipedia's. --ColinFine (talk) 11:07, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Defeated by syntax

I added a picture to this page. I did the best I could with the syntax but it displays in the wrong location.

Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Recorded_Texas_Historic_Landmarks_(Grayson-Hudspeth)#Grimes_County

Entry, Grimes county courthouse foobar (talk) 20:55, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

 Fixed - Yes, there's a complicated mixture of table cells, calls to templates, and images. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:01, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks -- foobar (talk) 21:15, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Blue link for deleted article?

While reviewing a question at the Teahouse, I went to this AFD discussion: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ayodhya_City_F.C.

On that page there is a wikilink to a now deleted article: Thonburi University F.C.. Normally that would show as a red link (as it does here in my question) but on that page it is showing as a blue link. Is that normal, or is this a glitch to report at the Village Pump tech page?

RudolfRed (talk) 21:06, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

@RudolfRed: I checked the page and all links to the article you mentioned show red for me. TheDoctorWho (talk) 21:10, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

@TheDoctorWho: OK, thanks. RudolfRed (talk) 22:04, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

@RudolfRed: It's normal. Pages are cached for performance reasons. The blue link just means that the article existed the last time the AfD page was rendered. It's still blue for me. A purge would turn it red. There is no automatic process to render pages with blue links when a page is deleted. @TheDoctorWho: Are the links to Thonburi University F.C. really red for you on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ayodhya City F.C.? The links to Ayodhya City F.C. are red but we are discussing another article. Maybe we are hitting different servers. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:29, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: yep the link for that is red for me. TheDoctorWho (talk) 22:38, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Yes, for me to (I am running through the Amsterdam cache cluster). See also meta:Wikimedia_servers#Hosting (Scroll down to see a list. Requests from Europe usually land in Amsterdam. The same problem also occurs with dated Categories, I.e Category:AfC pending submissions by age/0 days ago when the pages aren't edited, so they dont get moved to "older" Categories. 2001:16B8:508A:6600:5455:4DAC:A8C5:582 (talk) 03:41, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Is this how you're supposed to disambiguate this sort of link?

Hello! I have recently been fixing links to disambiguation pages, but I'm not really sure how one would fix links about nationalities. So, for instance, if a link said "she is Swedish", should I disambiguate that to Swedes or to Sweden? TheAwesomeHwyh 21:22, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

From what I have seen and for the benefit of the reader, it should be linked to the country ie. ‘Sweden’ instead of ‘Swedes’. Regards, Willbb234 (talk) 21:30, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Although WP:OLINK says that countries should not be linked. From what I have seen, links to the people E.g. [[English people|English]] is frequently used and does not contravene OLINK. Eagleash (talk) 21:40, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

​So, I should link to Swedes instead of Sweden? TheAwesomeHwyh 21:54, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Personally I wouldn't (and don't) link to either; just type the 'plain' nationality. Your choice though; linking to the 'people' is less likely to get edited than say [[England|English]]. Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 22:02, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. I'll just avoid linking to it, then. TheAwesomeHwyh 22:21, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Checking on the status of biography posting

About three months ago, I wrote a biography on blues musician Mighty Mike Schermer and sent it to you to post. I was told it would take 2-3 months before it would be posted. From what I can tell, it still hasn't been posted. Might you be able to give me an update on it?

Thanks so much,

Bob Rose<Email redacted>— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobrosay (talk • contribs) 27 July 2019 21:35 (UTC)

Who did you send this biography to? Regards, Willbb234 (talk) 21:42, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

@Bobrosay: The only item showing in your contributions is your post at this page. Were you logged in when creating the content or using another account? What title did you give to your page? I have not been able to find a draft for 'Mighty Mike Schermer' or 'Mike Schermer'. A draft for a Mike Sherm (musician) was rejected in February as it had no content, I.e. it was blank. More information would be needed for us to try to help. Please do not post contact details as this page is very visible. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 22:05, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

@Bobrosay:If you sent something to someone via e-mail, then it's likely that no action was taken, since that's not how Wikipedia works. Please read WP:YFA to see how to create an article. -Arch dude (talk) 22:01, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

2020 Major League Baseball season

Can you fix the reference I Made on Cubs Cards coming to London please. 68.103.78.155 (talk) 23:01, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

 Done Could not find the title of the article, as shown in the existing ref, at the MLB website but found an alternative (same site) and used that. Eagleash (talk) 00:16, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

July 28

Lockheed P-38 Lightning

Hi Folks, An editor, newly arrived, has removed some Japanese text (I assume) + a template from the following article: Lockheed P-38 Lightning‎ and that is used to provide a language translation of a phrase. It has been there for a while. Can somebody please take a look and see new editor is making sense. Thanks. scope_creep^Talk 00:25, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

I left a message on the IP's page and reverted it.--Quisqualis (talk) 02:32, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

There is a talk page discussion about it now, so consensus should be reached soon. Thanks Quisqualis. Thanks Folks. scope_creep^Talk 14:42, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Sharing code

hey, is there a place to share algorithm or true code ? id describe it as the most efficient way to treat data.

Not on Wikipedia. We don't conduct original research here.--Jasper Deng (talk) 07:31, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Note: in the future, please click ‘New section’ at the top of the page to ask a question. Please sign your posts by typing four tildes (~~~~) or clicking the signature button above the edit box which looks like this: , but do not sign in articles. Regards, Willbb234 (talk) 07:36, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

There are several major code-sharing sites on the net, e.g. github. -Arch dude (talk) 15:36, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

List of alumni of Trinity College, Cambridge

There are 2 strange symbols underneath the business section on this page - please remove if you can - I cannot. thanks 175.32.82.245 (talk) 13:00, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

 Done – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 13:07, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

The person who inserted the malformatting was you. Please stop asking other people to keep correcting your simple errors; if in doubt, the function to use is "Undo". --David Biddulph (talk) 13:12, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Category:20th-century_Mormon_missionaries&pagefrom=Woods%2C+Fred+E.%0AFred+Woods#mw-pages

This is a list of 20th Mormon missionaries, yet contains only a tiny sample of names. For example, I (kitchen, Philip James) served a mission from 1978-1980 in London England.

How can names be added or edited onto the list?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.207.132.26 (talk) 13:52, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Hey anon. That's not really a list of every Mormon missionary ever. Instead it's a list of Wikipedia articles about Mormon missionaries. If a person does not qualify for a Wikipedia article, by meeting our standards for notability, then they cannot be added to the list. GMG^talk 13:56, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Multiple coordinates within article body

Hi Folks, I have this wee ship article, MV Esso Hamburg. The ship is moving, under fire. I've put in two coordinates, where it has been oiling, but the page processing is reporting ''{{#coordinates:}}: cannot have more than one primary tag per page''. Any ideas. Do they need to be text, or is there another template I can use. Thanks. scope_creep^Talk 14:46, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

I think the problem is the "title". One can have as many coordinates as you want on a page, but only one in the title. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:00, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Jo-Jo Eumerus: That worked. Thanks. scope_creep^Talk 15:18, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Tony Clarkson cricketer

Additional information: Tony Clarkson was the first English Cricketer to score a century in the John Player Sunday League which started in 1969.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a00:23c4:60ae:6e00:809d:6353:7ba4:45f4 (talk) 15:19, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion regarding Tony Clarkson. When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the edit this page link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to).  Seagull123  Φ  15:24, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

anxiety tab contribution labeled as "vandalism"

Dear Wiki,

Although you as an institution are not directly at fault, one of your 22-year-old editors (unnamed) has made an alarming mistake today.

I've offered a legitimate, true, accurate description of how some strains of cannabis lessen anxiety, which is an important footnote for intellectual advancement. There are numerous non-sourced blocks of information sporadically spread throughout Wikipedia, and they are not edited out or certainly not labeled as vandalism.

I've inquired with a real, licensed neuro-psychiatrist as to the question of how different cannabinoids can lessen anxiety, and he has confirmed that I am indeed right. There is a wealth of researchable sources online that can easily confirm this.

There are cannabinoids in cannabis that have both anxiolytic and anti-psychotic properties. This is truth and verified by a plethora of knowledgeable professionals in the psychiatric field, one of which I know personally and has confirmed the veracity of my claims.

As a frequent user of Wikipedia, I found the scoff at my contribution as "vandalism" uncalled for, and unequivocally unprofessional.

I will discontinue valuable contributions to Wikipedia in the case that it will be further marked as "vandalism".

This is deleterious to academic and intellectual progress of both this site, and Humankind.

Maybe in the future, the editor shouldn't be so quick to label someone as a vandal without doing their own research. I think jumping to label a legitimate contribution as "vandalism" encourages people not to use this site.

Although, not my fault. I hope that you make changes for your sake. That is, if you want people to keep using this site.

Good day.

-Former Wikipedia frequenter — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.101.73.44 (talk • contribs) 2019-07-28T16:50:20 (UTC)

CLCStudent was correct to revert your edits, but incorrect to describe them as vandalism. He should have emphasised that the problem was that your change was unsourced. You say that "There are numerous non-sourced blocks of information sporadically spread throughout Wikipedia", but other stuff exists is not a reason for adding further unverified material to the encyclopedia; if you find unverified material elsewhere you are welcome to tag it appropriately, or remove it if verification isn't added. David Biddulph (talk) 16:20, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello, Former Wikipedia frequenter. You added unsourced material to Anxiety disorder, (in fact, by adding unsourced material between a sentence and its citation, you invited any reader to infer that the already cited sources directly supported your claim). Our standard for verifiability is particularly high in medical articles, so CLCStudent properly reverted your edit, and left a notice on your talk page.

Unfortunately, rather than starting a discussion on the matter (which is the recommended practice: see BRD) you reapplied your edit. You presumably did not know this was not allowed, but that is the case; and CLCStudent reverted you again, with a stronger notice. Unfortunately the (prepackaged) notice they chose referred to vandalism, which was probably not appropriate: looking at your edits, they do appear to be in good faith. But an edit made and repeated by an anonymous user, without giving any explanation in the edit summary, often is vandalism. In any case they were again right to revert you: but a message explaining why your edit was not appropriate would have been more helpful.

I urge you now to begin a discussion on Talk:Anxiety disorder explaining the change you want to make, and (most importantly) giving a reliable published source for what you want to add. If you have such a source, it is likely that the consensus will be to add your information (though without the editorialising "note"); but if you have not, if you are sharing something from your own experience, then I'm afraid that Wikipedia does not accept original research.

As for withdrawing your sponsorship: that is entirely your choice, of course. But I hope you don't withdraw it on the basis of a couple of misunderstandings. We all make mistakes. --ColinFine (talk) 16:33, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

(ec)This Wikipedia gets several edits every second, on average. Each editor does whatever tasks they choose to do. Of the 200,000 active editors this month, a few choose to look at new edits. This is difficult job, so they use tools and sometimes make snap judgements to keep up with the workload. CLCStudent was appararently operating at well over one edit per minute at the time he reverted your contribution, and if he and his colleagues slow down, we will get overwhelmed with cruft. I speculate that he saw an unusual, unsourced addition to a cannabis-related article and made the "vandalism" call based on a lot of experience. Rather than complain, it would be helpful if you would consider joining the "recent changes" patrol. -Arch dude (talk) 16:39, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input

I got this message - There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page). How do I add the referces? Or publish without them? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bossybetterton (talk • contribs) 17:15, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

References are needed for verifying information in articles so articles should all have sufficient references. To reference sources see the guide on citing sources. If you are writing an article please see WP:YFA. Regards, Willbb234 (talk) 17:20, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Please sign your posts by typing four tildes (~~~~) or clicking the signature button above the edit box which looks like this: , but do not sign in articles.

 Done Empty ref tags removed: Article needs more citations, as suggested by Willbb. Eagleash (talk) 17:54, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

need help with making a page to be referred to from another page

Hello, my name is Bobby Gammonster, I am a Horror Host of a Internet TV show called Monster Movie Night. I have listed my name on the Horror Host site under the 2010s. But when my name comes up and is high lighted by the mouse it says page does not exist.How do I go about getting a page of myself put on Wikipedia? Please help. Thank you . — Preceding unsigned comment added by BGammonster-horrorhost (talk • contribs) 21:48, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello, BGammonster-horrorhost. I'm afraid the simple answer is that you don't. Promotion of any kind is not permitted on Wikipedia. If you meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability (which is about whether people unconnected with you have chosen to publish in some depth about you), then we could have an article about you. It will not be your article, you will have no control over its contents (though you will be welcome to suggest edits for it), and it will be almost entirely based on what those independent sources say about you, not on what you say about yourself. Please read autobiography and An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. --ColinFine (talk) 22:22, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Adding charts to album article

Hello. I tried adding the charts for the soundtrack album Hercules but couldn't format it right, can someone add them? if not, where is the best place to ask someone to add charts to an album article? Thanks. DanWarpp (talk) 23:21, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

You can look at similar articles and copy formatting from there. Ruslik_Zero 05:41, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

July 29

Ali Kadhim Hadi

Hi You have written a new article professionally. All information, documents and references were added. But so far I did not appear in the research knowing that I have many articles written in the Arabic Wikipedia ask for helpask for help— Preceding unsigned comment added by Akram.altameemi (talk • contribs) 29 July 2019 00:34 (UTC)

Draft:Ali Kadhim Hadi will not be indexed by Google until it is reviewed and moved into mainspace. Please read the note at the end of the article about the backlog in the review process. -Arch dude (talk) 00:56, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

You have not submitted Draft:Murtaja Adel Nasser for review yet. Please add {{subst:submit}} to the TOP of your draft article to submit it. It will then be added to the pile of articles for review. -Arch dude (talk) 01:01, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

@Akram.altameemi: Despite the above, the page was submitted with this edit at 00:41 (UTC). Please place the references inline at the point in the text to which they refer and complete the infobox parameters for years and appearances. It would be a significant improvement if the various sections could have rather more detail. Please see any of the football articles on the English Wikipedia for more ideas. See Category:English Football League players for a list of articles which may help. Your article doesn't have to be as fully detailed as many of those will be, but needs more than it has at the moment. Eagleash (talk) 01:31, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

@Eagleash: I think there are two separate drafts, one submitted, one not.-Arch dude (talk) 02:12, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Ah... wait a minute I was looking at Draft:Ali Kadhim Hadi which has been submitted for review and was the heading added by the OP. Eagleash (talk) 02:17, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

@Akram.altameemi: While your English is a great deal better than my non-existent Arabic, I think your articles might benefit from some copy-editing from an interested editor. Perhaps you can ask at the talk page of a related project such as Wikipedia:WikiProject Football. -Arch dude (talk) 02:12, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Lupton family

Please fix up - I have put in a citation which is actually from a journal. Please leave in page numbers. Thanks Srbernadette (talk) 01:27, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

There's no ref errors showing in respect of the recently added ref in the Charles Lupton section but I did remove the date from the publisher parameter (no change there then). Eagleash (talk) 01:39, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

I have added a file of Francis Lupton - it is too big, can you make it smaller please. Also, can you remove the died 1884 bit which is under his photo. Thanks Srbernadette (talk) 01:48, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

It is pretty much the same size as the adjacent image and is already 'thumbed'. To make it smaller would look out of place. I have removed the caption wording. Eagleash (talk) 02:09, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Yet again the person who inserted the material which you wanted removed was YOU!. Why do you think that it is reasonable to keep cluttering up the help desk by asking other people to correct your mistakes? What is it that makes it difficult for you to use the "Undo" function? Please also see #List of alumni of Trinity College, Cambridge above. As you have been asked previously, if you don't understand what you are told in English, in what language ought we to answer you? --David Biddulph (talk) 04:00, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Would like to open a page for company information named as "OKAY.com"

Hi, I would like to open a page for company information named as "OKAY.com", here is the official website and some ref link. https://www.okay.com/

https://www.scmp.com/property/hong-kong-china/article/1528192/okay-goes-online-fight-cooling-property-market-hong-kong

http://www.arounddb.com/around-db-articles/infocus/still-one-future-real-estate-discovery-bay/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by OkayPerson (talk • contribs) 29 July 2019 06:35 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not open pages for companies, but if the company is notable in the Wikipedia sense, then you may request an article about the company at WP:Requested articles. It will help if you can provide independent WP:Reliable sources in which the company has been written about at length (the ones you give above are a start but I'm not sure they are independent). If you have some connection with the company, then it would be better if you do not write the article yourself. See WP:COI and WP:PAID for guidance. There is a possible problem with your user name since it seems to imply that you could be anyone at the company. Wikipedia allows only individual accounts such as "name at Okay". Accounts cannot be used by more than one employee. Dbfirs 11:19, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

• Note: OP blocked as of 06:46 (UTC) for username vio. Eagleash (talk) 11:39, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Editing the list of IEB schools in South Africa

To whom it may concern,

In the wikipedia post of IEB schools/private schools in Gauteng, St Martin's School in Rosettenville is omitted from the list although the content of the post has information on our school, we do not appear on the list - we should appear between St Mary's Waverley and St Peter's College.

How do I edit this list and ensure that it links to our website?

Kind regards Gillian O'Shaughnessy Head of marketing St Martin's School — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.77.29.57 (talk) 08:46, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello, there is a Wikipedia article at St. Martin's School (Rosettenville). I cannot find an article listing out all the schools. However there is a template here (this is used at the bottom of articles for navigational purposes) which includes St. Martin's in its correct alphabetical position before two schools named St Mary's. Please don't attempt to edit articles with which you have a connection, Please see WP:COI and WP:PAID. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 09:39, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

The OP may have been thinking of Independent Examinations Board#Schools that write IEB exams? David Biddulph (talk) 09:45, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Murtaja Adel Nasser

I have written an article entitled Murtaja Adel Nasser but so far I do not know how to add it to the review. Note I did not show my list of additions to the review. Do I have the right to write the article again and enter it in the review or I can insert the same article into the review? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akram.altameemi (talk • contribs) 10:02, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

You have produced a draft, but not yet submitted it for AFC review. Before you do submit it for review, you ought to provide English translations of the relevant parts of the foreign-language references. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:19, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Similar advice also applies here as in the similar section above. Eagleash (talk) 10:48, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

A3 when deleting move redirects?

Hi,

I was looking to delete a redirect in place after a legitimate move of a page. The restaurant no longer exists and was under different ownership to the current lodge ownership. It actually seems a counterproductive redirect.

Would an A3 be legitimate in this circumstance, or do I need to PROD it, or is there another variant? Nosebagbear (talk) 10:29, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Question regarding copyright of web pages

I rolled back edits on Orlando Symphony Orchestra by TreeofAvalon because they were copied from the orchestra's website (~98% on Earwig). After reverting TreeofAvalon's additions, I took a closer look at the orchestra website and couldn't find a copyright notice anywhere. I'd like to be sure on this - does lack of a copyright statement change the use of this material or do we assume that web pages are under copyright unless specifically stated as public domain? Leschnei (talk) 13:19, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Yes, content on web pages is assumed to be copyrighted unless explicitly stated otherwise. See Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources#Can I copy text to Wikipedia that I got from somewhere else? – Teratix ₵ 13:26, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

The orchestra's website is [2], yes? It has a tiny, hard-to-read copyright notice at the bottom of all its pages, in dark grey on a black background. Frustrating, but the text is completely promotional anyway. – Teratix ₵ 13:33, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Ah! - when I increase the brightness I can see it! Thanks for clearing up the copyright question. Leschnei (talk) 13:49, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Just a note Tera, but copyright notices are not really "a thing" for our purposes anymore, unless you're talking about things that were first published prior to the internet age, and then things get really complicated. For newer works, every creative work is copyrighted in the course of its creation, and being released under a free license does not eliminate the copyright in most circumstances, but simply defines the criteria under which the copyright holder allows their content to be used. The only things that are truly not copyrighted are 1) things not eligible for copyright, and 2) things where the copyright has expired. Even CC0 licenses and "public domain dedications" are not necessarily the same thing as bona fide public domain in every jurisdiction, although for our purposes they're most often close enough that we don't have to fret over it. GMG^talk 14:00, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Wrong message by Wiki

Hi,

"According to scholars, Indian forces have committed many human rights abuses and acts of terror against Kashmiri civilian population including extrajudicial killing, rape, torture and enforced disappearances.[18][30][31] According to Amnesty International, no member of the Indian military deployed in Jammu and Kashmir has been tried for human rights violations in a civilian court as of June 2015, although there have been military court martials held.[32] Amnesty International has also accused the Indian government of refusing to prosecute perpetrators of abuses in the region.[33]"

Content of this paragraph is entirely wrong ,there is no human right violation in Kashmir,Indian soldiers are known for there commitment to respects the human right.The person who wrote this statement does not have any idea about India and Kashmir.I doubt really an educated person written this.

Please remove this paragraph as not a single word is right here and misleading the people.

Regards,

Debendra. Odisha,

India.