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:Hi {{u|THX1136}} - to answer your second question, Innes is credited in the infobox and mentioned in the Soundtrack section. Or do you mean a detailed list? It's been a while since I watched it, so can't answer your second question at the moment, but you've reminded me that it's about time I watched it again! [[User:Laterthanyouthink|Laterthanyouthink]] ([[User talk:Laterthanyouthink|talk]]) 02:39, 7 August 2019 (UTC) |
:Hi {{u|THX1136}} - to answer your second question, Innes is credited in the infobox and mentioned in the Soundtrack section. Or do you mean a detailed list? It's been a while since I watched it, so can't answer your second question at the moment, but you've reminded me that it's about time I watched it again! [[User:Laterthanyouthink|Laterthanyouthink]] ([[User talk:Laterthanyouthink|talk]]) 02:39, 7 August 2019 (UTC) |
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:Per [[WP:FILMPLOT]], "The plot summary is an overview of the film's '''main events''', so avoid minutiae like dialogue, scene-by-scene breakdowns, '''individual jokes''', and technical detail." (bolding mine) I don't remember the false start either, so that to me indicates it isn't important enough to add. [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 04:47, 7 August 2019 (UTC) |
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Production
The reference to the Seventh Seal would be more complete if it also mentioned the fact that the Original UK Trailer to Holy Grail sends up the beach scene at the beginning of Seventh Seal. In it, Death is seen giving the Antonius Block character a face full of cream pie (or maybe just shaving cream? - whatever).
Changing genre
The edit page says I need to discuss making changes to the genre before it can be changed. The article says that MP&HG is a slapstick film. It clearly isn't. Slapstick is physical comedy in which people are knocked about bodily by other people or objects. The humour in MP&HG is primarily verbal and character-based. There is little or nothing in it that could be accurately described as slapstick. It needs to be changed to "absurdist comedy" with a link to the article on "Absurdity" (the article on "surreal humour" is very poor.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.199.104.83 (talk) 00:21, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
I get it. It's not slapstick. All the violent scenes are just hilarious and ridiculous and are like someone getting crushed by a giant bunny or slayed by a bunny. There are a couple of actual violent scenes like when John Cleese Lancelot ran through the castle killing everybody but it wasn't slapstick. B-Movie Fan (talk) 04:59, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
- Ultimately what it should say should be a reflection of what reliable sources say. DonIago (talk) 16:10, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
You will not find a reliable source because it simply isn't slapstick. Can we fix this already? Gjxj (talk) 02:04, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
For the reasons given in my previous summary as well as fellow users above, MPatHG is not primarily or predominantly a slapstick movie. It is incumbent on whoever it is that is clearly so invested in the notion of it being lead-descripted in this article as a slapstick film to do so. Note that almost any major source will describe this film as surreal or silly comedy before describing it as slapstick. 86.7.223.84 (talk) 15:25, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
RT score in lede
I don't the think the RT score is a very good barometer of the film's critical reception and does not belong in the lede. Including it, briefly, in the reception section is one thing, but the score is not indicative of how the film was received in its time, which is what should be foremost in our minds. I suggest removing it. ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 13:24, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
- I concur; the RT score should not be in the lede. DonIago (talk) 14:32, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
A couple of questions
I was wondering why there is no mention of the comedic "false start" with the "Dentist on the Job" film (if I remember the title correctly) and Neil Innes' contributions musically? Innes is included in the credits if memory serves and is also mentioned in the commentaries. I will add these in if there is a consensus to do so. Thanks.THX1136 (talk) 01:16, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
- Hi THX1136 - to answer your second question, Innes is credited in the infobox and mentioned in the Soundtrack section. Or do you mean a detailed list? It's been a while since I watched it, so can't answer your second question at the moment, but you've reminded me that it's about time I watched it again! Laterthanyouthink (talk) 02:39, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
- Per WP:FILMPLOT, "The plot summary is an overview of the film's main events, so avoid minutiae like dialogue, scene-by-scene breakdowns, individual jokes, and technical detail." (bolding mine) I don't remember the false start either, so that to me indicates it isn't important enough to add. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:47, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
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