Talk:Missouri Executive Order 44

Hunted Like Rabbits

On October 14th, 1838, in Missouri, Joseph Smith declared his identification with Muhammad. “If the people will let us alone,” cried the prophet, “we will preach the gospel in peace. But if they come on us to molest us, we will establish our religion by the sword. We will trample down our enemies and make it one gore of blood from the Rocky Mountains to the Atlantic Ocean. I will be to this generation a second Mohammed, whose motto in treating for peace was ‘the Alcoran [al-Koran] or the sword.” So shall it eventually be with us–’Joseph Smith or the Sword’”. (Brodie, No Man Knows My History, ch. xvi, p. 231.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.161.231.32 (talk) 22:13, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

What is the purpose of the above quote? To impugn the victims of EO44 and the Hauns Mill Massacre? To equate them with present day Muslim Extremists, whom the *unsigned* contributor disdains? What people, victimized as the Mormons were at this point (5 years running in 1838), wouldn't say "enough already or we are going to do something!" even if ultimately powerless to do anything? Show where in the context of this wiki-article Joseph Smith made good on this rhetoric. His people have been shown historically to have striven to live peaceably with their Missouri neighbors, for all the good it did them. Words such as these do not constitute actions that justify anything in EO44. Playerpage (talk) 00:21, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

This article is actually biased in favor of the Mormons. By listing all the actions against the Mormons while leaving most of the Mormon provocations unlisted it lacks a great deal of the historical context. The Mormons were guilty of a great deal of provocation, including the stealing of wives, setting up corrupted civil governments that served only the church, murders, and kidnappings contrary to the law.198.230.98.33 (talk) 03:44, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

The Missouri is much like the abortion issue and approval of our courts. In my honest opinion and belief, it's nothing less than first degree murder of an unborn child which is the offspring and creation of all mighty God. We are are miraculous children of almighty God who created us in His own image, knows us each individually and has an eternal plan for each of our lives. The devil aka Satan is also alive and at work to destroy us all! Robbie Canfield (talk) 14:04, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

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Joseph Smith Vocal Opposition to Slavery

I don't think it was true that Joseph Smith was Vocally opposed to slavery. In fact, he tried to temper abolitionist Mormons. See his letter to Oliver Cowdery [1]. I would like to delete the sentence discussing Joseph Smith's vocal opposition to slavery, unless someone can point to any shred of evidence otherwise. Epachamo (talk) 22:35, 23 August 2019 (UTC)