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Duckhorn wants to use one of my images they hired me to get for their Wikipedia page, and I have given them my permission to do so. While I do have the copyright to the image, I have given them license to use it. I've filled out your Declaration of Consent and I've drafted a letter, but there still seems to be an issue. Other people and other companies are using my copyrighted images without problem. |
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What else could you possibly need from the photographer to use the image? He has also emailed you. [[User:Liza Zimmerman|Liza Zimmerman]] ([[User talk:Liza Zimmerman|talk]]) 23:11, 28 August 2019 (UTC) |
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This article is closer to a stub by length standards on Wikipedia; however, it is well written and referenced so it could be classed a "start" class. It falls short of B class as not useful to all readers. To whit, it does not have any information on physical plant, architecture, natural setting, access. A map and or photo would be very helpful to illustrate some of these elements. Feralfeline 01:51, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Photos have been added. July 29, 2019 Liza Zimmerman (talk) 21:57, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
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You can see the reasons for deletion at the file description pages linked above. —Community Tech bot (talk) 00:21, 13 July 2019 (UTC) It is photo on Flickr that Morgan Beard and the winery own. Liza Zimmerman (talk) ~
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I am a journalist and I have been editing and correcting the Duckhorn page. I am being paid to do this, which I disclosed on my page weeks ago. The changes are needed to make the page accurate and all of them are referenced to current articles in respected publications. Liza Zimmerman (talk) 17:06, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
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I'm being paid by Duckhorn Vineyards to edit this article. This is about the following edits: https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Duckhorn_Vineyards&diff=909053452&oldid=908910880
- The winery has been founded in 1234, not 1000. Reference: https://example.com
- The founder names are John Doe and Mary Example. Reference: https://example.com
- The winery has been founded in 1234, not 1000. Reference: https://example.com
Request 1, not specific enough
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Request lacks specificity: We can't just reinstate all changes at once, as at very least a part of them clearly lack the neutrality required in an encyclopedia. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 07:57, 28 August 2019 (UTC) |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Duckhorn_Vineyards&diff=909053452&oldid=908910880 I was asked by the winery to correct errors and add important additional information. The page did not list the founder's wife, Margaret, who also founded it with him, nor the wines that they currently produce. It also does not contain current information about employees, key data about who owns the winery or up-to-date pics. All the original info is listed here (and documented by a variety of sources): sure; I think they all should be visible here: https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Duckhorn_Vineyards&oldid=908910880 "Can we please reinstate these changes? Thanks. Liza Zimmerman (talk) 18:23, 21 August 2019 (UTC)"
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Request 2, neutrality disputed
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Liza Zimmerman
Greetings. I have made a number of corrections to this page that have been removed. I discussed from the start that I am a journalist being paid by Duckhorn to correct errors.
These are the changes I would like to make:
Duckhorn Vineyards is a winery outside St. Helena, California, which is part of the Duckhorn Wine Company portfolio which consists of eight wineries: Duckhorn Vineyards, Decoy [5], Goldeneye, Migration [6][7], Paraduxx, Canvasback, Calera and Kosta Browne.[8]
See published sources below:
"Decoy 2014 Cabernet Sauvignon (Sonoma County)". 2017-01-02. "Migration". "Wine Review Online - A Quest for Cool-Climate Chardonnay". "Schiller-wine: The Wines of Duckhorn Vineyards, Napa Valley, US". 2010-04-16.
Dan and Margaret Duckhorn founded Duckhorn Vineyards together in 1976, with the purchase of a 10 acres (4.0 ha) property off of Lodi Lane, in St. Helena.[9] The first vintage of Duckhorn was crafted by founding winemaker Tom Rinaldi,[10] and included 800 cases of Three Palms' Vineyard Merlot and 800 cases of Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon. Duckhorn released its first Sauvignon Blanc in 1982. [11]
Sources: Valley, US". 2010-04-16.
"Wine Ink: A new flight path — Duckhorn takes a turn". "Duckhorn's Alex Ryan on navigating a changing Napa Valley wine industry". "1982 Duckhorn Vineyards Merlot, Napa Valley, USA".
Founder Dan Duckhorn, a Santa Rosa native and Berkeley graduate, toured the Pomerol and Saint-Émilion regions in the Bordeaux region of France in the mid-1970s with Ric Forman,[12] who as winemaker of Sterling Vineyards had introduced vintage-dated Merlot wine to California. He returned to California with his then-wife Margaret to promote a new market for Merlot. They founded Duckhorn Vineyards in 1976.[12]The first vintage of Duckhorn was crafted by founding winemaker Tom Rinaldi and included 800 cases of Three Palms Vineyard Merlot and 800 cases of Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon.[13] Using grapes from Marlee’s Vineyard at Lodi Lane, Duckhorn released its first Sauvignon Blanc in 1982.[14]
Beginning in 1988, Duckhorn purchased seven estate vineyards on Howell Mountain and the valley floor,[15] for a total of 168 acres (68.0 ha) in Napa Valley, and four vineyards totaling 153 acres (61.9 ha) in the Anderson Valley, Mendocino County.[12]
In 1981, Alex Ryan began working at the winery while on summer vacation from high school [10]. After completing the viticulture program at Fresno State in 1988[16], Ryan wwas brought on to work in the cellar, the vineyard and the office.[10] Alex Ryan worked his way up the ranks to President and CEO of Duckhorn Wine Company[17].
Duckhorn wines have also been enjoyed at the White House; President Barack Obama served Duckhorn Napa Valley Sauvignon Blanc and Goldeneye Anderson Valley Pinot Noir at the official inaugural luncheon, in January 2009. [18]
In July, 2007, GI Partners, a private equity firm, purchased a controlling interest in Duckhorn Wine Company and with it Duckhorn's various brands and operations[19] at a valuation believed to exceed $250 million.[12][20] The company was sold to another private equity firm, TSG Consumer Partners, in 2016.[21]
Sources:
James Laube & Daniel Sogg (July 31, 2007). "New investor takes control of Duckhorn Wine Co". Wine Spectator. Retrieved 2007-07-06. "Duckhorn Three Palms Merlot Worth The Splurge". "2015 Duckhorn Napa Valley Sauvignon Blanc (375ml) - SKU". "Continuing the Tradition". Retrieved 2007-07-06. "Impact Napa Conference 2014: Alex Ryan, Duckhorn Wine Company". 2014-08-25. "The story behind Duckhorn's big win". "Duckhorn, Korbel served at official Obama inaugural lunch". 2009-01-21. Steve Heimoff (July 2007). "Duckhorn Wine Company sells controlling share". Wine Enthusiast. Retrieved 2007-08-01. Jon Bonné (2007-08-01). "Napa Valley stunner - famed winery sold". San Francisco Chronicle. Retrieved 2007-08-01. Quackenbush, Jeff (April 15, 2019). "Duckhorn Wine CEO: Planning for luxury market after boomers, coping with new Napa County regulations". North Bay Business Journal.
Production Duckhorn Vineyards produces several single-vineyard Merlots and Cabernet Sauvignons, as well as a Sauvignon Blanc. Today, Duckhorn Vineyards is the most-recognized producer of Merlot in Napa Valley. [22] The winery has been focusing on producing classic, full-bodied, food-friendly and age-worthy Napa Valley wines. [23]
Winemaker Renée Ary is Duckhorn’s fourth winemaker in four decades.[24] Her approach to winemaking is one that balances artistry and science with a deep respect for the viticultural side.[25] According to Ary, “My job is to let the vineyards speak and convey the soul of the wine.” [26] She does upwards of 60 individual fermentations of each vintage just to make six Merlots, underlying the variety of the sourced fruit and the complexity of the finished wines. [27] The Napa Valley Chardonnay is 90% barrel fermented, went through just 45% malolactic fermentation, and was aged in 40% new French oak. [28]
Sources:
"Duckhorn Vineyards and the Unusual Triumph of Merlot in Napa Valley". "Interview with a Winemaker: Renée Ary, Duckhorn Vineyards". 2015-03-25. "Women Winemakers of California and Beyond |Renée Ary". "Duckhorn Vineyards". "Women of an Influential Nature". 2015-01-21. "Duckhorn Vineyards and the Unusual Triumph of Merlot in Napa Valley". "Interview with Renee Ary, Head Winemaker at Duckhorn Vineyards".
Three Palms Vineyard Duckhorn Vineyards has been producing wine from the Three Palms Vineyard since their inaugural vintage, in 1978.[29] California Wine Advisors' Ric Forman of Sterling Vineyards introduced the Duckhorns to the owner of this vineyard, brothers John and Sloan Upton, as Forman was producing a reserve Merlot off the Three Palms Vineyard site. Napa Wine Project [30]. In the late 1800s, San Francisco socialite Lillie Hitchcock Coit, of Coit Tower fame, owned this site and planted the now-famous three palms around her wine country vacation home. [31] In 1967, the Upton brothers purchased the land and began planting vine on it the following year. The Three Palms Vineyard site features rocky, alluvial soils that are covered in volcanic stones. [32][29] Fast forward to 2015, when Duckhorn Vineyards acquired the Three Palms Vineyard from Sloan and John Upton. [33]
Awards Duckhorn was voted the winemaker of the year by the San Francisco Chronicle in 2005. [34] In 2005, the San Francisco Chronicle also proclaimed Dan Duckhorn its winemaker of the year and named four of his wines to its list of the "Top 100 Wines of 2005."[35]
In 2017, the winery received Wine Spectator's Wine of the Year Award in 2017, for their Three Palms' Vineyard Merlot.[36] Dan Duckhorn was named Mr. Merlot by The New York Times.[37]
In 2018, Dan Duckhorn was voted wine executive of the year, by the Wine Enthusiast.[38]
Sources: Vineyards".
"Duckhorn acquires storied Three Palms Vineyard". "Launching Bordeaux-Style Wines in the Napa Valley: Sterling Vineyards, Newton Vineyard, and Forman Vineyard". "Merlot's Quiet Comeback" (PDF). "Duckhorn Vineyards, United States, California, St Helena | Kazzit US Wineries & International Winery Guide". "Duckhorn buys Three Palms Vineyard in Napa Valley". 2015-05-13. "WINEMAKER OF THE YEAR / DUCKHORN TAKES WING / And the winner is... Dan Duckhorn and his winemakers wow our tasters with a flock of great wines". 2005-12-08. "WINEMAKER OF THE YEAR / DUCKHORN TAKES WING / And the winner is... Dan Duckhorn and his winemakers wow our tasters with a flock of great wines". 2005-12-08. "Wine No. 1 in Wine Spectator's Top 100 of 2017". Prial, Frank J. (1998-05-20). "Wine Talk; when in Doubt, They Just Say Merlot". The New York Times. "Wine Industry Awards: Alex Ryan, Duckhorn Wine Co". 2017-12-04.
All of the sources are respected publications and authors. Liza Zimmerman (talk) 18:12, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Liza Zimmerman, thank you very much for the request.
- Sadly, in this unmodified form that was correctly already reverted from the article, the request can not be fully implemented. This is due to a clear lack of the neutrality we expect in an encyclopedia.
- Unacceptably promotional examples:
Her approach to winemaking is one that balances artistry and science with a deep respect for the viticultural side.
According to Ary, “My job is to let the vineyards speak and convey the soul of the wine.”
(…), underlying the variety of the sourced fruit and the complexity of the finished wines.
- These three sentences can never be added to a neutral article without compromising its neutrality so strongly that not even the best references could fix the issue. These three sentences will never be added to the article; please do not request these specific changes to be made again.
- I do not yet have a comment on the (larger, more neutral) rest of the request. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 08:06, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
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- As far as I can see, the picture (File:Dan Duckhorn.png) has been uploaded to Wikimedia Commons and the permission e-mail has been reviewed and accepted. No further action is required. Regards,
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I put the winery picture on the Duckhorn page and it was taken down? Why? It was approved yesterday and we have the rights to it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Liza Zimmerman (talk • contribs) 20:57, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
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I put the winery picture on the Duckhorn page and it was taken down? Why? It was approved yesterday and we have the rights to it. Liza Zimmerman (talk) 01:41, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
As far as I can see, the picture (File:Dan Duckhorn.png) has been uploaded to Wikimedia Commons and the permission e-mail has been reviewed and accepted. No further action is required. Liza Zimmerman (talk) 01:41, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
Please advise. Thanks. Liza Zimmerman (talk) 01:41, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
- Unfortunately the email queue that deals with these permission emails is backlogged, and it will take some time until the relevant emails will be acted on. Please be patient. Huon (talk) 02:01, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
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Please note what was filed on by one of your editors below. We do indeed have the rights to this picture, which I have shared with you many times.
Bob McClenahan <bob.mcclenahan@gmail.com> Attachments Sun, Aug 25, 8:07 AM (3 days ago) to permissions-commons, bcc: me
Duckhorn wants to use one of my images they hired me to get for their Wikipedia page, and I have given them my permission to do so. While I do have the copyright to the image, I have given them license to use it. I've filled out your Declaration of Consent and I've drafted a letter, but there still seems to be an issue. Other people and other companies are using my copyrighted images without problem.
What can I do to facilitate this?
-- Bob McClenahan
I hereby affirm that I, Robert McClenahan, am the creator and/or sole owner of the exclusive copyright of the attached image as used here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ File:Picture_of_the_Duckhorn_Winery.jpg, and have legal authority in my capacity to release the copyright of that work. I agree to publish the above-mentioned content under the free license: Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported and GNU Free Documentation License (unversioned, with no invariant sections, front-cover texts, or back-cover texts). I acknowledge that by doing so I grant anyone the right to use the work in a commercial product or otherwise, and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws. I am aware that this agreement is not limited to Wikipedia or related sites. I am aware that I always retain copyright of my work, and retain the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be claimed to have been made by me. I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the content may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project. Robert McClenahan Copyright holder July 15, 2019
What else could you possibly need from the photographer to use the image? He has also emailed you. Liza Zimmerman (talk) 23:11, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
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