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I think it is [[[WP:UNDUE]] to emphasize this [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Doom_Patrol_(TV_series)&diff=915625241&oldid=915611527 supposed separation] in the article lead. Comics can and will retcon as they see fit. That the shows aren't actively trying to keep continuity and directly follow from each other or overlap for now doesn't allow us to jump to the conclusion that they are in entirely separate universes.
I think it is [[WP:UNDUE]] to emphasize this [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Doom_Patrol_(TV_series)&diff=915625241&oldid=915611527 supposed separation] in the article lead. Comics can and will retcon as they see fit. That the shows aren't actively trying to keep continuity and directly follow from each other or overlap for now doesn't allow us to jump to the conclusion that they are in entirely separate universes.


(At the risk of repeating the other discussion) Bowlby is able to say Doom Patrol "a completely separate thing than Titans" but that merely seems like a sensible production move. We cannot predict what might happen later any more than she can. The Carver interview again only shows that they are being creative and flexible and doing their own thing, not that Doom Patrol is necessarily a whole separate universe or that it wont cross over. The lack of continuity doesn't make it suddenly not a spin off.
(At the risk of repeating the other discussion) Bowlby is able to say Doom Patrol "a completely separate thing than Titans" but that merely seems like a sensible production move. We cannot predict what might happen later any more than she can. The Carver interview again only shows that they are being creative and flexible and doing their own thing, not that Doom Patrol is necessarily a whole separate universe or that it wont cross over. The lack of continuity doesn't make it suddenly not a spin off.

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October 2018

It's also not part of the DC Extended Universe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.255.216.208 (talk) 22:34, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Who says that it is? -- AlexTW 22:43, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Why Doom Patrol is not a spinoff of Titans

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


I'm getting really tired of people making edits to both this article and the Titans article to refer to Doom Patrol as being a spinoff of Titans when the two series are not connected despite sharing actors and characters, but since it's not likely to stop, I'm going to spell out exactly why Doom Patrol is not a spinoff of Titans and why referring to it as such is peddling false information.

The definition of the term spinoff, as per this very site, is "a radio program, television program, video game, film, or any narrative work, derived from already existing works that focus on more details and different aspects from the original work (e.g. particular topics, characters or events)."

The Doom Patrol series does not fit this definition because the characters in it do not share the same narrative histories and experiences as the Doom Patrol characters who appeared in the "Doom Patrol" episode of Titans, as per the producers of the Doom Patrol series and actress April Bowlby.

It does not matter that Bowlby plays Rita in both the Doom Patrol series and the "Doom Patrol" episode of Titans. The events of the "Doom Patrol" episode of Titans have absolutely no bearing on or connection to the events of the Doom Patrol series.

If one plays out the logic of the argument that Doom Patrol is a spinoff of Titans because it features the same characters and some of the same actors and because it was originally announced as being connected to the Titans series to its ultimate conclusion, it, for example, opens up the door for the false claim of a film like Spider-Man: Far From Home being a spinoff of the Sam Raimi Spider-Man films due to J.K. Simmons appearing in both that trilogy and Far From Home as J. Jonah Jameson despite the fact that the Raimi films have zero narrative connections to Far From Home.DigificWriter (talk) 01:21, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

I think it is WP:UNDUE to emphasize this supposed separation in the article lead. Comics can and will retcon as they see fit. That the shows aren't actively trying to keep continuity and directly follow from each other or overlap for now doesn't allow us to jump to the conclusion that they are in entirely separate universes.

(At the risk of repeating the other discussion) Bowlby is able to say Doom Patrol "a completely separate thing than Titans" but that merely seems like a sensible production move. We cannot predict what might happen later any more than she can. The Carver interview again only shows that they are being creative and flexible and doing their own thing, not that Doom Patrol is necessarily a whole separate universe or that it wont cross over. The lack of continuity doesn't make it suddenly not a spin off.

Either way I don't think the article lead needs to make any claims that it is a spin-off or in a whole separate universe, ultimately it is based on the comics and that's what matters. -- 109.79.168.251 (talk) 15:55, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]