Talk:Kwanzaa

How many people celebrate?

I was looking around online to see how many people really celebrate Kwanzaa but most of the articles I can find on the subject are all asking the same question and some are doubting that a significant number of people celebrate it. Lice000 (talk) 20:28, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

Outside of a very small African Studies academic community and a slightly larger number of black baby boomer creative types, virtually no one celebrates Kwanzaa. It probably isn't much of an exaggeration to suggest it gets more attention from white liberals and traditional media than from actual celebrants. 109.103.81.34 (talk) 16:28, 24 December 2017 (UTC)Vainamoinen

We have a section for this: Kwanzaa#Popularity.--Pharos (talk) 19:16, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Even the minimum estimate (6 million in the U.S.) is a lot of people.50.1.19.91 (talk) 22:49, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

I never got a chance to add them, but there have also been a bunch of surveys by Public Policy Polling over recent years.--Pharos (talk) 00:36, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

This article is one sided.

This holiday was created by a known racist. But nothing is said about that. This article is one sided. Now I know everyone might not agree with this statement. But that does not give you the right to remove this. I would like to have a discussion on how we can make this more balanced article. 71.244.220.133 (talk) 00:40, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Feel free to go through the archives and read the previous discussions on the matter, for a start. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇} 04:38, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

I have and all I see is people removing the dissuasion and telling people to “shut up”. Like a few days again. I don’t get why this only shows the positive side but won’t allow criticism. I’m pretty sure Wikipedia allows that. I believe it was you who said that. I really think that your bias behavior should be reported.71.244.220.133 (talk) 01:26, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

I would like to add that not only was it created by known racist, the holiday itself was created for racist purposes. "give Blacks an alternative to the existing holiday and give Blacks an opportunity to celebrate themselves and history, rather than simply imitate the practice of the dominant society.” --potter's best

From the article: "The celebration honors African heritage in African-American culture." Some of us think that's worth celebrating. If you don't, there are countless other holidays. Merry Christmas. Jonathunder (talk) 17:31, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

High-quality source

I've been finding a lot of good stuff in Kwanzaa: Black Power and the Making of the African-American Holiday Tradition by Keith Mayes - it's neither boosterish nor scoffing, and very comprehensive. If anyone ever tried to take this article to GA or FA that would be something important to utilize.--Pharos (talk) 02:20, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

There's also some interesting background provided by US constitution expert Ann Coulter:[1]Santamoly (talk) 09:23, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Oh that's funny. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇} 15:33, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Karenga felonies

This has been an old issue on this article, and consensus has always been againstWP:UNDUE emphasis on the crimes of the founder.--Pharos (talk) 01:05, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Heavens. It's only October. Is it already time to protect the article? --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇} 01:17, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Judaism Connection

It would be appropriate to educate the public on the origins of Kwanzaa, and include its connection to the Jewish holiday of Hanukkah. i.e. The creation of the first candelabra, the memory of collective suffering and oppression. Not only would this be accurate, but also serves to connect people in a peaceful way. Dghitis (talk) 19:51, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

What connection is there other than Kwanzaa's adoption of a non-Hanukkah menorah? --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇} 20:35, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Chuck D, graduate of Goldsmiths university of London??

Chuck D has accomplished many things, but one of them doesn't appear to have been graduating from Goldsmiths. ("featuring Chuck D, graduate of Goldsmiths university of London," in the last sentence in the last section, Adherence.) Checking the sources cited, neither one refers to Chuck D as a graduate of Goldsmiths, nor do any other information sources indicate that he is. Since the article is semi-protected I can't edit it. But recommend that someone do so. Not sure if this claim is vandalism or an innocent mistake whose origin is not apparent to me.