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I'm proposing [[List of birthday flowers]] for deletion. For discussion see [[Talk:List of birthday flowers]][[User:Plantdrew|Plantdrew]] ([[User talk:Plantdrew|talk]]) 00:31, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
I'm proposing [[List of birthday flowers]] for deletion. For discussion see [[Talk:List of birthday flowers]][[User:Plantdrew|Plantdrew]] ([[User talk:Plantdrew|talk]]) 00:31, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

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It looks like the table of English flowers is plagiarised. I guess we could lose that and move the 18th century English nonsense up into its place, although that is not really referenced properly either. Thoughts? --[[User:DanielRigal|DanielRigal]] ([[User talk:DanielRigal|talk]]) 14:24, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

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Origin and notability

Can anybody add some proof to demonstrate that this is not just a load of old tosh made up by some florists on a slow day? If it is something with real historic roots (forgive the pun) then it needs to be referenced better and have its history and context explained. If it is just marketing tosh to sell more flowers then it should be pruned. --DanielRigal (talk) 21:46, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I modified the article with using tables for listing the each flower and their meanings. On the US part, I copied from the tool-page of a telephone notebook, where no reference I can find out for it. As it was printed for people's daily use in the notebook, I guest that should be the modern style of US, just like the category of Birthstones styles listed in Wikipedia.--Gzyeah (talk) 10:52, 29 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Probably, as Daniel Rigal suspects, a florist association's marketing ploy. But so was the birthstone, at least in its modern form. Cross Reference (talk) 16:19, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Value of Traditions / Non-economic Value

To start off, IMO there is great value in making (keeping) the list available here. This provides 1) a non-commercial source, and 2) presents a recognized list. I have searched for the background resource but have not found information on its history. I was particularly interested in the October flower - and further searching led me to conclude the listing for October is out of sync with all the other lists I've located, including the one at the Old Farmer's Almanac (FWIW). The blue Statice is in the October slot - I haven't found any source that lists it (Misty blue limonium - the non-working link made me wonder) and found instead in all places the Marigold / Calendula listed. The interpretation of the meaning varied tremendously. So, I edited the US list to bring it to what appears to be the accepted norm. I did create the description by combining various meanings, including those reported to be those from Roman times. Plantdrew has now undone my updates via undo - his comment provides me with no insight as to why. I don't understand why the blue Statice is preferred over the Marigold / Calendula. (This is my first time at discussing an edit and may have made a few stumbles - please don't take any offense). Meanom 23:35, 4 October 2013 UTC (I don't have a profile page here --- should I?)

Oh, sorry. I don't object to your edits, but was really being lazy in trying to undo some changes by User:Amit Sharma g slightly before yours that didn't seem appropriate. It took you several edits to produce a small change (I empathize, figuring out the coding for Wikipedia takes some time to learn), so I lazily reverted it with along Amit Sharma g's previous edits. I'll restore the change you made, but it really ought to be referenced to a source (but this article is pretty poorly sourced overall). Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia, and please continue. I'm sorry I was being sloppy and removed your contribution when addressing a previous edit. Plantdrew (talk) 03:57, 5 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

List of birthday flowers

I'm proposing List of birthday flowers for deletion. For discussion see Talk:List of birthday flowersPlantdrew (talk) 00:31, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Earwig's Copyvio Detector sees a 78% chance of copyright violation in this article. (Click here for detailed report)

It looks like the table of English flowers is plagiarised. I guess we could lose that and move the 18th century English nonsense up into its place, although that is not really referenced properly either. Thoughts? --DanielRigal (talk) 14:24, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]