Talk:Very light jet

Aircraft list should probably be a wikitable. Dbchip 17:04, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

The following was put by User:208.235.233.194 onto the article page, but belongs here in the talk page. Georgewilliamherbert 19:18, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Diamond D-Jet price is old. Here is oshkosh quote.

Diamond D-Jet VLJ debuts at AirVenture

By David Sakrison

The D-Jet flies by the AirVenture crowd. Photo by Phil Weston

The Diamond D-Jet made its world debut Wednesday morning at EAA AirVenture Oshkosh, just 10 days after it was unveiled at Diamond headquarters in London, Ontario. Since then, the prototype has flown about 30 hours.

Diamond says the five-place single-engine VLJ (very light jet) should be on the market in mid-2008, priced at $1.38 million. Diamond CEO Christian Dries said the D-Jet is designed to be flown by a pilot/owner, and will offer safety, comfort, and efficiency.

External links

I’ve created ALL External Links in this article and the link to the AirTaxiFlights.com site here is no more inappropriate or a spam than links here to AW&ST, AIN or Flight Int’l sites. (Actually, contrary to those other sites, the AirTaxiFlights.com site contains no ads or some other commercial stuff). The link was here for over a month (Jun. 24 – Aug. 30) without anyone complaining, until Dbchip suddenly decided that it’s a spam and removed it.

For all you wannabe censors/policemen out there I suggest that it would be better if you contribute something of your own before you start censoring and deleting what someone else has done just because you personally don’t like it or think it’s inappropriate for others. And if you really believe it’s inappropriate, maybe you ought to start a discussion and give your reasons first, before arbitrarily deleting something for all the rest of us. 195.142.137.65 10:11, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

On the contrary, perhaps you ought to explain what's relevant about it. It sure looks like a violation of Wikipedia's policy on external links to me.--chris.lawson 15:08, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Upon further investigation, airtaxiflights.com is operated by Creative NetVentures, Inc. [1], which is obviously nothing more than a commercial promotion company specialising in link farms. Surely there are sites out there that provide the same information (and at a higher quality -- airtaxiflights.com is a great example of bad spelling and grammar) without being so spammy.--chris.lawson 15:54, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

AirTaxiFlights.com has the best news archive related to VLJs that I found on the web, produces its own articles on the subject the same as other magazines with external links here, and has had a good VLJ Specifications and Comparison table even before it was created here. And while this article will continue to be censored by bigots who contribute nothing of their own except a witch-hunt after self-perceived linkspams, reverting contributions of others, AirTaxiFlight.com will be a much better source of intelligence about VLJs than wikipedia. Bxb 08:50, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Order in table

I'm going to propose that we formalize this:

The order of aircraft in the table shall be by the date, or expected or proposed or announced date, of type certification by the FAA or other recognized aviation regulation agency. For purposes of this table, all type certifications are treated as equal, whether they are limited or unlimited.

Does this sound reasonable? Georgewilliamherbert 04:39, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Full certification schedule?

The article says "Full certification is expected by mid-September, 2006". It's November now, what happened?

For which aircraft? The Eclipse got it on 30 Sept.--chris.lawson 13:43, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Orders

Can we delete orders that cannot be confirmed? Like this ATG plane. I cant find an article that says 100 sold.--Bangabalunga 00:59, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

By all means, if it's not cited or citable, it shouldn't be here.--chris.lawson 03:01, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Missing Aircraft

There's at least one notable aircraft that should be listed that isnt: the Chichester-Miles Leopard (CMC Leopard), particularly noteable since it was pretty much the first VLJ with a prototype actually flying (back in the early eighties). Unfortunately, I've not seen any verbose information on its current status anywhere, if anyone sees something vaguely canon it'd be worth sticking in.