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Renae Maihi

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Director of some non-notable short films with no significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject as required by the general notability guideline. The article is a victim of WP:REFBOM as most of the sources are about short films or about the defamation case against. GSS ^💬 07:55, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. GSS ^💬 07:55, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions. GSS ^💬 07:55, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 09:13, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

• Delete.Keep NZ Herald has dozens of articles that mention the subject: "Renae Maihi" site:https://www.nzherald.co.nz. But they are all about the defamation lawsuit, an issue that should be dealt with at Bob Jones (businessman). Add. I see from the material that has been added since I !voted that she has directed at least one feature (Waru) that has received significant coverage. If you add that to the coverage related to the Bob Jones lawsuit, she passes WP:GNG. Colin Gerhard (talk) 11:49, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
• Keep she is notable in NZ Drstuey (talk) 04:27, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
• Keep She has had WP:SUSTAINED coverage since 2017 from her films (specifically Waru) in addition to the Bob Jones events. -- Whisperjanes (talk) 18:37, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

@Whisperjanes: Can you please point our those sources here and explain how they support notability? Thank you. GSS ^💬 18:43, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

@GSS: There are sources from 2017 [1] [2] [3] [4] and 2018 [5] [6] and other supporting articles [7] [8][9] [10][11] about her involvement with the film Waru and other work. There has been some critical analysis of her movie Waru (shown above) and of the events surrounding Bob Jones, so she has at least had significant coverage over time, which establishes presumed notability with WP:GNG. Just because the sources are mostly local New Zealand sources doesn't make them unreliable, either (although I am not from New Zealand, so it would be helpful for some New Zealanders to give input on their reliability). And I apologize for not being more clear before - I meant to say that WP:SUSTAINED mentions "sustained coverage is an indicator of notability." She does seem to be notable in New Zealand for the Bob Jones events (which don't seem internationally notable, but seems to be notable in New Zealand, especially in the Maori community), so if one reason for deletion is that sources only cover her in that one event, then it's important to note that there has also been coverage of her film-making. She seems notable in New Zealand for not just Bob Jones, but also her work. -- Whisperjanes (talk) 21:30, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

• Keep Honestly, neither the petition nor the coverage of her films would be enough on their own to support notability, but taken altogether she more than meets requirements for notability. IphisOfCrete (talk) 20:00, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Adding to this thought, although it appears that her petition against Bob Jones and his subsequent defamation suit against her may have increased her profile, she has nonetheless received numerous awards and her films have screened at a number of international film festivals.IphisOfCrete (talk) 20:11, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

• Keep I have to disagree with IphisOfCrete. I have just written up the defamation case and it easily passes GNG by itself. At this point, the case is part of this bio. This may cause issues with WP:WEIGHT, although I see another editor IphisOfCrete is in the process of expanding the film career of the subject. Maihi's career in combination with court case passes the notability threshold with ease. Should consensus fall otherwise (which I consider highly unlikely), we should turn the court case into a standalone article. Schwede66 20:36, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

• Keep as per huge coverage across dozens of sources in New Zealand in the last eight weeks. Stuartyeates (talk) 21:10, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

• Keep. Obvious to me after reading the article and seeing the comments above. I'm puzzled why, when 17 minutes after being created as a new article, this was moved to draft space as a "possible WP:TOU violation". I couldn't see a violation, but then.... Later after being restored in articlespace, the AfD tag was placed on it when [[expand]] could have been more useful IMMHO. No mind, it clearly justifies being kept.Moriori (talk) 22:56, 14 February 2020 (UTC)