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== Rights vs. Privileges == |
== Rights vs. Privileges == |
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Once again, I have changed the sentence discussing homosexual foster and adoption "rights" to more accurately reflect what they are -- "privileges". Generally, you cannot have a right to someone else's person. Specifically as related to this subject, you cannot have a "right" to adopt someone else's child. There are actual rights belonging to way too many people, not the least of which is the adopted child, to refer to any "right" to adopt. Adoption, whether gay or straight is a PRIVILEGE for the would be adoptive parents. Referring to adoption as a "right" is clearly, therefore, not a NPOV. |
Once again, I have changed the sentence discussing homosexual foster and adoption "rights" to more accurately reflect what they are -- "privileges". Generally, you cannot have a right to someone else's person. Specifically as related to this subject, you cannot have a "right" to adopt someone else's child. There are actual rights belonging to way too many people, not the least of which is the adopted child, to refer to any "right" to adopt. Adoption, whether gay or straight is a PRIVILEGE for the would be adoptive parents. Referring to adoption as a "right" is clearly, therefore, not a NPOV. |
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== Stop With the POV Changes == |
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Just when I thought we had a happy, neutral medium, a gay special rights activist comes in and messes with this article. A statement that Cameron's work does a particular thing (in this case, casting homosexuals as perverts, etc.) is not NPOV. *I* and many others don't think his work does this, so clearly there is a divergence in POV on this topic. Stating that it is his DETRACTORS who claim the research casts homosexuals in a negative light is neutral and gets the information out there that the special rights crowd wants. |
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Revision as of 20:19, 13 December 2006
Addition Requests:
More detailed information about his research with either support or critiques of it. Very brief and balanced. Graniterock 03:14, Mar 4, 2005 (UTC)
- I'd like to see more info, too (actually, there is some at 1983 ISIS Survey). Maybe that can be my next wiki project, unless someone beats me to it. -Seth Mahoney 02:47, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
College
Los Angeles Pacific College http://www.lapacific.net/ was founded in 1989, so that is not where Cameron went. The Life Pacific College of Los Angeles was founded in 1923, and is associated with the International Church of the Foursquare Gospel. My guess is that that is the college he attended. However I can't find any info in his official bios or the school websites. -Will Beback 22:43, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
Mass Changes
FYI, I reverted 13 edits made over the course of 45 minutes by 66.0.248.74 on 28 September 2006. This was not an act of aggression on my part - it's just that the mass of edits and re-edits were rather confusing. I would suggest that if the individual would like to add the changes again, he/she do them in one fell swoop. -- Tim D 01:40, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Change Made in One Swoop
OK, done. However, I fail to see what the original complaint was other than there is a serious POV problem here. It seems that any changes made that tell the other side of the story -- like the links to the letters showing Cameron resigned over a year before he was "expelled" -- keep getting deleted. It appears clear that one or more gay activists are watching this page and will pounce on any attempt to make it a more neutral entry.
- More information is good, but please don't delete the original allegations either. -Will Beback 06:27, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Understood, but the APA was not the organization that made that charge. I have added a paragraph with the proper entity after the APA discussion.
- Ah, yes, thanks for catching that error. -Will Beback 06:49, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
There were some POV problems with both pro- and con-Cameron opinions, so I tried to fix that up a little bit without removing factual information. And FYI, it's best to sign all discussion with four tildes (~) just so no one gets confused about who's saying what -- Tim D 15:20, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Rights vs. Privileges
Once again, I have changed the sentence discussing homosexual foster and adoption "rights" to more accurately reflect what they are -- "privileges". Generally, you cannot have a right to someone else's person. Specifically as related to this subject, you cannot have a "right" to adopt someone else's child. There are actual rights belonging to way too many people, not the least of which is the adopted child, to refer to any "right" to adopt. Adoption, whether gay or straight is a PRIVILEGE for the would be adoptive parents. Referring to adoption as a "right" is clearly, therefore, not a NPOV.
Stop With the POV Changes
Just when I thought we had a happy, neutral medium, a gay special rights activist comes in and messes with this article. A statement that Cameron's work does a particular thing (in this case, casting homosexuals as perverts, etc.) is not NPOV. *I* and many others don't think his work does this, so clearly there is a divergence in POV on this topic. Stating that it is his DETRACTORS who claim the research casts homosexuals in a negative light is neutral and gets the information out there that the special rights crowd wants.