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Sources state that her mother Paula Wiederhold was a secretary at the German Embassy in Rome. Given that Pallenberg was born in Rome in 1944, during WW2 when Germany and fascist Italy were allies, does that make her mother a Nazi? I can't imagine you would have been allowed to work in the German Embassy at such a time unless you vigorously subscribed to the party line. [[Special:Contributions/86.148.48.253|86.148.48.253]] ([[User talk:86.148.48.253|talk]]) 12:10, 29 April 2010 (UTC) |
Sources state that her mother Paula Wiederhold was a secretary at the German Embassy in Rome. Given that Pallenberg was born in Rome in 1944, during WW2 when Germany and fascist Italy were allies, does that make her mother a Nazi? I can't imagine you would have been allowed to work in the German Embassy at such a time unless you vigorously subscribed to the party line. [[Special:Contributions/86.148.48.253|86.148.48.253]] ([[User talk:86.148.48.253|talk]]) 12:10, 29 April 2010 (UTC) |
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:Have you a reliable source that confirms this? If not, it cannot go into the article.--[[User:Jeanne boleyn|Jeanne Boleyn]] ([[User talk:Jeanne boleyn|talk]]) 14:36, 18 May 2010 (UTC) |
:Have you a reliable source that confirms this? If not, it cannot go into the article.--[[User:Jeanne boleyn|Jeanne Boleyn]] ([[User talk:Jeanne boleyn|talk]]) 14:36, 18 May 2010 (UTC) |
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::Italy surrendered in September 1943. [[User:Valetude|Valetude]] ([[User talk:Valetude|talk]]) 12:20, 23 February 2020 (UTC) |
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Nationality
What nationality is this actress/model?
Courtland 03:42, 2005 Apr 6 (UTC)
- As the article says, she's Italian but has a German mother.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:33, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
The birth dates do not match in current article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grnlb (talk • contribs) 12:41, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
"concluding a four years"
is this a briticism or typo?
Thicken out Stones stuff
I added some material about her influence over the RS during the period, probably more could be added, but with limited time I think it is a fair representation. Also mentioned her involvement with the death of the 17 year old kid, and used a Sources section to try to justify the material which is very widely known, but because she is still a living person there is a higher standard to source her article. More specific sourcing could be added in time too. --Mikerussell 01:23, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
Anita was a symbol of the 1960's.She should be given the status of a Sixties' icon alongside Nico and Jean Shrimpton.Anita was the Sixties!!jeanne (talk) 16:47, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, balls. She was only important to people that liked her. Someone like Grace Slick, for example, was much more well-known, admired, etc.104.169.34.62 (talk) 01:24, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
Mother a Nazi?
Sources state that her mother Paula Wiederhold was a secretary at the German Embassy in Rome. Given that Pallenberg was born in Rome in 1944, during WW2 when Germany and fascist Italy were allies, does that make her mother a Nazi? I can't imagine you would have been allowed to work in the German Embassy at such a time unless you vigorously subscribed to the party line. 86.148.48.253 (talk) 12:10, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
- Have you a reliable source that confirms this? If not, it cannot go into the article.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:36, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
- Italy surrendered in September 1943. Valetude (talk) 12:20, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
Citizenship
What is her actual citizenship, NOT her nationality? Born from an Italian citizen and a German citizen, she would have had to decide for one citizenship only when turning adult, as in Germany and Italy the ius sanguinis is the valid law. She might have changed her citizenship later, due to marriage or other reasons, but I do not see evidence for a differing current citizenship. Anyone got more info? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.143.47.245 (talk) 14:02, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- I recall having read back in the early 1970s that the British authorities had tried to deport her in the late 1960s. She was dscribed as a German actress, but alas this cannot go into the article seeing as I don't have the publication on hand. I remember she was always referred to by the press as German, never Italian. It's possible she is now a US citizen.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:41, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Very likely. It is not even clear she ever held an Italian passport, and most likely she was not even entitled to hold one. Ethnically, she is half German, half Italian, but the passport is what counts. It is also not clear if she really holds an American passport now or a British one. We need more info here.
- I believe her father was actually half Swedish, making Pallenberg half German, one-quarter Swedish and one-quarter Italian.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:24, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
- No, Jeanne Boleyn. Half-quarter-quarter is NO citizenship. The question still is her citizenship here (i.e the country of which she holds a passport), NOT her ethnic heritage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.157.59.185 (talk) 16:10, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
- So can you provide the answer as to what her citizenship is or are you just posting here to display your crass personality fpr all and sundry?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 05:45, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
- No, Jeanne Boleyn. Half-quarter-quarter is NO citizenship. The question still is her citizenship here (i.e the country of which she holds a passport), NOT her ethnic heritage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.157.59.185 (talk) 16:10, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
- I believe her father was actually half Swedish, making Pallenberg half German, one-quarter Swedish and one-quarter Italian.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:24, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
- Very likely. It is not even clear she ever held an Italian passport, and most likely she was not even entitled to hold one. Ethnically, she is half German, half Italian, but the passport is what counts. It is also not clear if she really holds an American passport now or a British one. We need more info here.
According to this article, she had an Italian passport in 1979: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/teenager-dies-in-keith-richards-new-york-home-19790906 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.194.85.220 (talk) 14:35, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
Date of Birth
Bill Wyman gives her date of birth as 25 January 1944 but I have also seen 6 April 1944. Which is the correct one?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:16, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
Pic?
Surely a picture would be appropriate. Valetude (talk) 10:07, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
Model
Former model or still a model? If still a model i.e. earning money modeling, what kind of model? Role? Wrinkles cream? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.131.66.116 (talk) 15:21, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
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I think this is good article. Succint and informative. The only thing missing is a good photo or two. Wwwhatsup 21:36, 18 March 2007 (UTC) |
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rolling stones status
To say that the Rolling Stones had 'not made it big' by 1965 is strange, to say the least. The Wikipedia article on the Rolling Stones describes the years 1965-67 as their 'height of fame'. Okay, that's a bit strange too, but they were certainly VERY big by 1965. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.44.231.180 (talk) 07:17, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
Again: date of birth
Today the d.o.b. of Anita Pallenberg in this article is twice mentioned as 25-01-1944 and once as 06-04-1944. The given d.o.b.'s differ in the different wiki's (and for instance also in the IMDb). Who is able to solve this question? De Jaren (talk) 17:13, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
- Go to Talk:Elisabeth Sladen and see what they did there. I think they had to go back to the register, in the end. Britmax (talk) 17:16, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
- Her date of birth was previously reported as 25-01-1944. This is now known to be incorrect. Both Marlon Richards and Keith Richards' spokesman have confirmed it is in fact 06-04-1942, making her 75 not 73. This is now being reported in major obituaries such as The New York Times and Washington Post. This is what we should go with. Unfortunately The Guardian has introduced a third date of 06-04-1944 but that must be a typo.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 13:23, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
- I have added an edit note reading "READ THIS BEFORE CHANGING TO 1944 1942 date is correct, see talk page" after experience with the same problem at Elisabeth Sladen. Britmax (talk) 13:39, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
Related to the DOB issue: If she was actually born in 1942, is wasn't "German-occupied Rome" yet. (see History of Rome)
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