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Sourcing from Billy Joel Channel?

I'm enjoying the Billy Joel Channel on Sirius XM, especially when Billy talks about the inspiration for his songs or albums. Could we use this information as sources for the various Billy Joel articles on Wikipedia? If so, how would we cite it? GoingBatty (talk) 22:36, 10 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

How can others' verify the cites ? - FlightTime Phone (open channel) 22:46, 10 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@FlightTime Phone: That's the problem - hence the question. GoingBatty (talk) 21:58, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@GoingBatty: I don't see a problem, if it's un-verifiable, it can not be used. - FlightTime Phone (open channel) 22:30, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Actually if it were verifiable, it would most likely deemed non-Encyclopedic trivia anyway. - FlightTime Phone (open channel) 22:31, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Korea?

Billy Joel would have been very young in 1953, when the Korean War ended, but it is prominently mentioned in We didn't start the fire and Leningrad (song). Is there information missing from the article which would explain this connection? If so, could it be added in?--Jack Upland (talk) 19:26, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Soviet Union

In October 1986, Joel and his team started planning a trip to the Soviet Union. He became one of the first American rock acts to play there since the Berlin Wall went up.

This isn't in the source. Why the Berlin Wall? The Berlin Wall was constructed in 1961.It seems unlikely that an American rock act played in the USSR before 1961. There just weren't many around back then. And anyway, the Berlin Wall was in East Germany. It had no direct relevance to the Soviet Union and nothing to do with Joel's tour. Several rock musicians went to the USSR before him. John Denver toured the USSR in 1985. Johnny Cash recorded a live album, Koncert v Praze (In Prague–Live), in Czechoslovakia in 1978. I'm sure that other relevant examples could be found. I think we should drop the second sentence altogether, particularly the irrelevant reference to the Berlin Wall.--Jack Upland (talk) 07:17, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for highlighting this. I did remove the 2nd sentence you mentioned, as well as adding a new one at the end of the paragraph to try & address the whole "first SU rock concert" more accurately. I'm sure it could be written better, but it's certainly a start. ~~Tristan ("TheDisneyGamer") 16:58, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks.--Jack Upland (talk) 06:15, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

car crashes

There should probably be something on his multiple car crashes in the decade of the 2000s. Widely covered in the news at the time. AnonMoos (talk) 06:36, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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-== "He still keeps contact with one living niece, Lea, in Hollywood, FL." ==
-This is a trivial piece of information oddly placed in its own paragraph near the top of Mr. Joel's bio. How is it noteworthy that a 68 year old man keeps in contact with a niece?
-And since Billy keeps in contact with this person, how reassuring to be informed that she is in fact "living."
-:{{removed}}. [[User:WWGB|WWGB]] ([[User talk:WWGB|talk]]) 02:23, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
-== WMMR ==
-I would like to change "During the spring of 1972, the Philadelphia radio station WMMR-FM began playing a concert recording of "Captain Jack", which became an underground hit on the East Coast." to "In April 1972, Billy performed live on Philadelphia radio station WMMR-FM. After one of the disk jockeys began regularly playing "Captain Jack" from that session it became a popular call in request, even spreading to sister Metromedia station WNEW in New York City". It's clearer and more specific than just "popular on the east coast". Could someone tell me what citation would be good enough to use as a source. I've read several references to this on the net but I'm hesitant to use web links as citations. [[User:RMoribayashi|RMoribayashi]] ([[User talk:RMoribayashi|talk]]) 23:35, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 == Sourcing from Billy Joel Channel? ==