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A belated welcome, which I have put at the top of your talk page for your convenience. <span class="plainlinks">[[User:NinaEliza|NinaEliza]] ([[User talk:NinaEliza|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/NinaEliza|contribs]] <small>•</small> [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate?username={{urlencode:NinaEliza}}&site=en.wikipedia.org <span style="color:#002bb8">count</span>] <small>•</small> [{{SERVER}}/wiki/Special:Log?user={{urlencode:NinaEliza}} <span style="color:#002bb8">logs</span>] <small>•</small> [[Special:Emailuser/NinaEliza|email]]</span>) 02:16, 17 December 2006 (UTC) |
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== Pablo Ganguli == |
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To restore the article you must list it at [[WP:DRV|Deletion review]]. Please see our [[WP:UNDEL|Undeletion policy]] regarding the policy and the procedure. - [[User:Aksi_great|Aksi_great]] ([[User_talk:Aksi_great|talk]]) 05:10, 29 November 2006 (UTC) |
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==Nonsense pages== |
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Welcome to [[Wikipedia]]! We could really use your help to create new content, but your recent additions (such as [[Majestic Petra Festival]]) are considered nonsense. [[Wikipedia:Patent nonsense|Please refrain from creating nonsense articles]]. If you want to test things out, edit the [[Wikipedia:Sandbox|sandbox]] instead. Take a look at the [[Wikipedia:Welcome, newcomers|welcome]] page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia.<!-- Template:Nonsensepages --> --[[User:Cyberjunkie|cj]] | [[User talk:Cyberjunkie|talk]] 13:43, 16 December 2006 (UTC) |
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:sorry but people such as yourself abuse their wikipedia rights. why have you deleted my pages? they are leading international festivals and you call them nonsense? how very ignorant!<small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Zeouspom|Zeouspom]] ([[User talk:Zeouspom|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Zeouspom|contribs]]){{#if:08:02, 17 December 2006| 08:02, 17 December 2006|}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> |
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::Perhaps my labelling of the articles as nonsense was incorrect. However, they still qualified for deletion. Please cease using Wikipedia to promote Pablo Ganguli.--[[User:Cyberjunkie|cj]] | [[User talk:Cyberjunkie|talk]] 22:40, 16 December 2006 (UTC) |
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:::"perhaps it was incorrect"? so now you are saying you are unsure? im not promoting him but the work this young genius is doing worldwide. just google him. and also why did you delete the international festivals? why dont you delete kiran desai, shobhaa de, shabana azmi, hay festival? sorry but wikipedia is ridiculous.<small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Zeouspom|Zeouspom]] ([[User talk:Zeouspom|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Zeouspom|contribs]]){{#if:08:14, 17 December 2006| 08:14, 17 December 2006|}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> |
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::::No, I'm saying it's open to interpretation. It is clear you can't approach this with a [[WP:NPOV|neutral point of view]], which is precisely the problem, not to mention the lack of a single [[WP:RS|reliable source]] – yes, I've looked.--[[User:Cyberjunkie|cj]] | [[User talk:Cyberjunkie|talk]] 22:55, 16 December 2006 (UTC) |
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:::::single reliable source? neutral view? please have a look at the following then. many thanks indeed. i have been to all his festivals since im mad about literature and cultural diplomacy. i appreciate your help. i thought wikipedia was all about providing accurate info. the guardian and the times in britain hailed him as one of the country's youngest literary impresarios organising international festivals all over the world to promote britain. |
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:::::*http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,923-2133343,00.html |
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:::::*http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4153/is_20060824/ai_n16700982 |
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:::::*http://www.tehelka.com/story_main20.asp?filename=hub101406vanityfair.asp |
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:::::*http://news.independent.co.uk/people/pandora/article2073007.ece |
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:::::*http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1019841 |
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:::::*http://comment.independent.co.uk/columnists_a_l/yasmin_alibhai_brown/article358243.ece |
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:::::*http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/UK-MAG-JULIO-INGLESIAS-KEVIN-PIETERSEN-PABLO-GANGULI_W0QQitemZ220058096315QQihZ012QQcategoryZ2242QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
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:::::*http://connectunitedkingdom.tripod.com/ |
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:::::*http://in.news.yahoo.com/060331/43/639aj.html |
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:::::*http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1663470,00110004.htm |
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:::::*http://www.forbes.com/business/fyi/2005/1212/045.html |
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:::::*http://observer.guardian.co.uk/7days/story/0,,1922721,00.html |
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:::::*http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2005/10/03/do0305.xml |
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:::::let me know if you want more.<small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Zeouspom|Zeouspom]] ([[User talk:Zeouspom|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Zeouspom|contribs]]){{#if:08:44, 17 December 2006| 08:44, 17 December 2006|}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> |
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::::::I'm not particularly impressed with any of the links you provided. I don't feel any of them would solidly satisfy [[Wikipedia:Notability|notability criteria]]. --[[User:Cyberjunkie|cj]] | [[User talk:Cyberjunkie|talk]] 23:41, 16 December 2006 (UTC) |
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:::::::kitab is india's annual festival of literature. jewel of russia is st petersburg's only international cultural relations festival. Arts in Marrakech and Majestic Petra are the only Arab international festivals of their kind in the Arab world. Pablo Ganguli has earned his reputation as a leading cultural guru among the Moroccan, Indian, UK and various cultural worlds...and with due respect, a wikipedia editor is not impressed? how very sad!<small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Zeouspom|Zeouspom]] ([[User talk:Zeouspom|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Zeouspom|contribs]]){{#if:09:51, 17 December 2006| 09:51, 17 December 2006|}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> |
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== Your note on my page == |
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You posted a note to my talk page that cited my comment at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pablo Ganguli]], and said ''You are VERY wrong! Please get your facts right. He has directed a great number of festivals all over the world and they are all renowned featuring eminent world-class personalities. and Connect UK is the UK's south pacific cultural diplomacy body which he founded and directed at the age of 17. not in charge of anything at all? Remember - ignorance is not an excuse?'' |
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I notice that you've not been able to convince other editors that the links you've provided meet [[WP:RS]] standards. So perhaps this page would be a good place to have some further discussion on that, before you spend a lot of time writing (more) articles that will just get deleted. For example, what links can you provide (below, not on my talk page) that show that Mr. Ganguli has directed (let's say) at least THREE "renowned" festivals, and that they featured "world-class" personalities? [[User:John Broughton|John Broughton]] | [[User talk:John Broughton |Talk]] 02:49, 17 December 2006 (UTC) |
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=== here they are === |
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let me know if you want more links. i work closely for a company that does mr ganguli's events management in london. |
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* [http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,923-2133343,00.html India’s international literary festival, April 2006] |
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* [http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4153/is_20060824/ai_n16700982 Article in Evening Standard on him, August 2006; mentions festivals in India and Morocco and his forthcoming one in Petra, Jordan] |
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* http://www.tehelka.com/story_main20.asp?filename=hub101406vanityfair.asp |
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* http://news.independent.co.uk/people/pandora/article2073007.ece |
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* http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1019841 |
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* http://comment.independent.co.uk/columnists_a_l/yasmin_alibhai_brown/article358243.ece |
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* http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/UK-MAG-JULIO-INGLESIAS-KEVIN-PIETERSEN-PABLO-GANGULI_W0QQitemZ220058096315QQihZ012QQcategoryZ2242QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
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* http://connectunitedkingdom.tripod.com/ |
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* [http://in.news.yahoo.com/060331/43/639aj.html India festival; article dated March 2006] |
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* http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1663470,00110004.htm |
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* http://www.forbes.com/business/fyi/2005/1212/045.html - |
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* [http://observer.guardian.co.uk/7days/story/0,,1922721,00.html - Majestic Petra Festival - not happening, article from October 2006] |
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* [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2005/10/03/do0305.xml - Arts in Marrakech, March 2005] |
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=== Okay, I'm convinced === |
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Okay, there should be an article on him. One thing, first: you need to read [[WP:COI]], since that limits what you should do. |
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I suggest starting by getting a copy of the last (now deleted article) put into your user space, where you (and I can help) can get it into shape to be put back as a Wikipedia article, in such good condition that no one would even think about suggesting it for deletion. Getting such a copy is called [[Wikipedia:Userification|userification]]; you do it by requesting a copy [[Wikipedia:Deletion review#Content review|here]]. When you've done that, please let me know (mention that the deletion was on November 18th via AfD). [[User:John Broughton|John Broughton]] | [[User talk:John Broughton |Talk]] 17:14, 17 December 2006 (UTC) |
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:'''sorry''' - all very confusing since im no expert. please could you kindly help? 18:41, 17 December 2006 {{unsigned|Zeouspom}} |
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::Okay, I'll ask for a copy of the article, but it's going into your userspace, as [[User:Zeouspom/Pablo Ganguli]], unless an admin objects. Also, please follow [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages]], even for your own talk page. Thanks. |
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::Also, as an aside - I don't think the individual festivals in and of themselves deserve separate articles, but they certainly should have a paragraph or so, each, in the Pablo Ganguli article, and there can be [[Wikipedia:Redirect|redirects]] so that someone looking up a festival will end up in the appropriate section of the main article. [[User:John Broughton|John Broughton]] | [[User talk:John Broughton |Talk]] 18:48, 17 December 2006 (UTC) |
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== Article deleted == |
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The page has been deleted and locked once again as you continue to recreate the article. I have told you before to take the matter to [[WP:DRV|Deletion review]]. If there is consensus there to recreate the article then the page will be unlocked and the article created. - [[User:Aksi_great|Aksi_great]] ([[User_talk:Aksi_great|talk]]) 19:07, 17 December 2006 (UTC) |
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: It would be better if you follow the suggestion given by him above closely. - [[User:Aksi_great|Aksi_great]] ([[User_talk:Aksi_great|talk]]) 19:09, 17 December 2006 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 19:13, 17 December 2006
Thank you John. So how do we proceed?