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If Fowler can answer two questions please: What is the context? What's the complication? I hope it isn't some misplaced moral relativism that ends up justifying this [[malum in se]], no matter the context.
If Fowler can answer two questions please: What is the context? What's the complication? I hope it isn't some misplaced moral relativism that ends up justifying this [[malum in se]], no matter the context.
And, okay, I will also admit I added the longish quote, which stokes prurience, in a fit of disgust, but even if we don't mention the whole quote, as it can be impractical or be seen as sensationalist in a biographical entry I don't know, the domestic abuse has to be mentioned in the article, which in its current form seems a bit generous and sympathetic. Do let us know the context and complications... [[User:GeorgeBajrangiShaw|GeorgeBajrangiShaw]] ([[User talk:GeorgeBajrangiShaw|talk]]) 06:25, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
And, okay, I will also admit I added the longish quote, which stokes prurience, in a fit of disgust, but even if we don't mention the whole quote, as it can be impractical or be seen as sensationalist in a biographical entry I don't know, the domestic abuse has to be mentioned in the article, which in its current form seems a bit generous and sympathetic. Do let us know the context and complications... [[User:GeorgeBajrangiShaw|GeorgeBajrangiShaw]] ([[User talk:GeorgeBajrangiShaw|talk]]) 06:25, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
:No one is saying he wasn't misogynistic at times, even misanthropic. He did physically his (extra-marital) lover Margaret. But there was a context to the assault. You need to find French and paraphrase both the abuse and the context accurately. You can't just quote by incompletely using the New York Times, not in a high-level article such as this. I could do it, but I won't because I think it belongs to a separate section which has not been begun yet. I don't think it should be stuffed willy-nilly in "personal life." [[User:Fowler&amp;fowler|<span style="color:#B8860B">Fowler&amp;fowler</span>]][[User talk:Fowler&amp;fowler|<span style="color:#708090">«Talk»</span>]] 16:55, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

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Whitewashing of Naipaul's domestic abuse

I added this referenced line to the article: In Patrick French's biography, Naipaul recounts that he often beat Margaret up: "“I was very violent with her for two days with my hand; my hand began to hurt. . . . She didn’t mind it at all. She thought of it in terms of my passion for her. Her face was bad. She couldn’t appear really in public. My hand was swollen.

The edit was undone by User:Fowler&fowler, stating: You are quoting out of context. You are quoting selectively. I have just examined Patrick French. It is more complicated. If Fowler can answer two questions please: What is the context? What's the complication? I hope it isn't some misplaced moral relativism that ends up justifying this malum in se, no matter the context. And, okay, I will also admit I added the longish quote, which stokes prurience, in a fit of disgust, but even if we don't mention the whole quote, as it can be impractical or be seen as sensationalist in a biographical entry I don't know, the domestic abuse has to be mentioned in the article, which in its current form seems a bit generous and sympathetic. Do let us know the context and complications... GeorgeBajrangiShaw (talk) 06:25, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No one is saying he wasn't misogynistic at times, even misanthropic. He did physically his (extra-marital) lover Margaret. But there was a context to the assault. You need to find French and paraphrase both the abuse and the context accurately. You can't just quote by incompletely using the New York Times, not in a high-level article such as this. I could do it, but I won't because I think it belongs to a separate section which has not been begun yet. I don't think it should be stuffed willy-nilly in "personal life." Fowler&fowler«Talk» 16:55, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]