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LiAngelo Ball

Why did you remove my line, cited to NBA.com, that Ball was offered a contract? ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 14:33, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

@Editorofthewiki: Thanks for bringing this here. I though I had mentioned it in the edit summary, but did not. My bad. Though it's on NBA.com, it's breaking news from AP based on an anonymous source, so I don't consider it reliable. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 14:46, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

So you want to wait until he signs the contract? I can get several sources for it, not just NBA.com. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 14:47, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

@Editorofthewiki: But aren't they all based on unnamed sources?—Bagumba (talk) 14:50, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

I suppose you are right. But anonymous sources are unacceptable? ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 14:02, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

@Editorofthewiki: For breaking news, we need to be careful with anonymous sources. Do read WP:RSBREAKING, if you haven't already. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 15:35, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

IP pest is back

Hey. The same IP from User talk:Bagumba/Archive 22#IP needs a timeout is back doing the same exact thing [1]. Is this grounds for a further block? Thanks. DaHuzyBru (talk) 02:59, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Blocked 3 mos.—Bagumba (talk) 15:50, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Michigan-Michigan State -- IPs at it again

On March 1, the semiprotect that you applied at Michigan–Michigan State football rivalry expired. Three days later, the IP users were at it again. Consistent with the prior patter, the new IP user (registered in Lansing, Michigan, the home of Michigan State) reverted to an outdated version that existed several months ago. This is part of a pattern of similar vandalism by IP users in the Lansing / East Lasing area. The IP users have been eradicating substantial improvements that have been made to the article. This includes (i) addition of citations to previously unsourced material, (ii) addition of working urls to citations having dead urls, (iii) adding descriptions of several games from the 1940s, 1950s, and 1960s (decades previously overlooked), (iv) trimming some of the game summaries that were overly wordy, (v) trying to inject a more neutral tone (some of which previously had a pro-Wolverine or pro-Spartan tilt), (vi) applying standard practice for rivalry articles in which the teams are listed in alphabetical order (the Lansing IP users seek to have Michigan State listed first in all charts, etc., despite standard practice), and (vii) general cleanup and copy editing. I have left notes on the talk pages of each of the involved IP users -- not surprisingly, the never respond. The IPs continue to revert all of this work and restore the poorly sourced and non-neutral version that existed several months ago. Would you please be willing to reapply the semi-protect to address this ongoing problem? Cbl62 (talk) 04:26, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

@Cbl62: I was going to say give it some more time, except it's the exact same revert as the one on Jan 21. Protected 3 mos.—Bagumba (talk) 16:04, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Help

Hey I see it looks like you might be online currently. I made a request at WP:RPP hours ago but no response. Can you protect Kansas Jayhawks men’s basketball? IPs keep adding a 2020 National Championship. As much as I’d like my team to be named the champs it hasn’t happened.--Rockchalk717 00:55, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Done, 1 wk.—Bagumba (talk) 01:10, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Perfect thank you!--Rockchalk717 01:46, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Protect 2019–20 NCAA Division I men's basketball season?

IPs keep inserting the Florida State legislature naming Florida State national champ. Thanks. Rikster2 (talk) 22:52, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

The senate did declare them champs per the cited source. It's more of a content dispute of what, if any, mention is WP:DUE. Maybe start a discussion at WP:CBBALL if this persists.—Bagumba (talk) 04:07, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

The Florida State Senate has no authority to name a college basketball national champion. Rikster2 (talk) 16:02, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

But it did happened. Whether it's for show, meaningless, and should be excluded from the article is a content dispute.—Bagumba (talk) 16:28, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

I think we could mention it briefly under the Postseason section. It can be discounted as there is no actual champion unless it goes to the No. 1 team, Kansas. It doesn't belong in the lead. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 13:16, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Indefinite protection for 1992 Troy State vs. DeVry men's basketball game

Hi Bagumba - you've protected this article numerous times before. Every single time the protection expires it gets blasted with vandalism of people thinking the official score is 253–141 when, according to the NCAA, it's 258–141. Considering the edit requests in the talk page, and the persistent edit wars of the article itself, can you please put permanent edit protection on this? SportsGuy789 (talk) 04:07, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

Indefinite applied.—Bagumba (talk) 08:01, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! SportsGuy789 (talk) 20:40, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

‎Conduct accusations

Regarding this and this, I repeat that I know how to handle sock issues. Also, per Wikipedia talk:Sock puppetry/Archive 15#Guidance about whether to simply ask them, querying if an editor is a sock is allowed. In this case you took issue with, I didn't query if the editor is a sock. I did note that I hope that the editor is not this IP, but that's because I do hope that. That IP was trolling, pure and simple. And this new account is arguing in a similar way. When an editor is using Wikipedia in a way that goes against WP:Not a forum and the other editor is arguing based on Wikipedia's policies and/or guidelines, that is not truly a content dispute. And per WP:Talk, WP:Not a forum posts can be removed or archived at any time. That stated, I will try to be more mindful of not biting supposed newbies. Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 06:49, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

@Flyer22 Frozen: Thanks. Be well! Cheers.—Bagumba (talk) 07:26, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

ANI disussion

There is currently a discussion at WP:AN regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. NicholasHui (talk) 16:15, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Tom Brady

Holy COW! Did you hear the news? Brady signed with the Bucs?! What was he thinking? Mk8mlyb (talk) 23:54, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Mike Stratton

On 27 March 2020, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Mike Stratton, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:43, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

MOS:JOBTITLES is clear

MOS:JOBTITLES is very clear, "* When followed by a person's name to form a title, i.e., when they can be considered to have become part of the name: President Nixon, not president Nixon". The case is {(xt|U.S. Vice President Al Gore}} and that is the exact case. The one you claimed is not present at JOBTITLES. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:06, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

@Walter Görlitz: Thanks for following up on your revert. MOS:JOBTITLES shows an example of "US president Richard Nixon", which is not capitalized because it is preceded by the modifier "US". "Vice President Al Gore", without the preceeding "US" would be fine; however, "US" was presumably needed since there is global readership and its a world event. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 05:15, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

And the headings read "Unmodified, denoting a title" "Modified or reworded, denoting an office". It appears that what is represented in the article is a title not office, but the article's talk page is the correct place to follow-up. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:18, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

@Walter Görlitz: In an earlier MOS discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Biography/2019_archive#Modifiers, it was clarified that it's not capitalized when preceeded by a country.—Bagumba (talk) 05:30, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Interesting. The MoS has an issue. The article is following it as it is currently written. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:39, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

It "has an issue", so you cherry-pick from the very page? OK.—Bagumba (talk) 05:54, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Nick Babb

Would you mind undeleting Nick Babb to draftspace? He has played in the German Bundesliga and I intend to work on it. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 15:36, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

@Editorofthewiki: You'll get better attention on this one at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion than what I'm able to provide. Sorry for the inconvenience. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 00:34, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Already requested at REFUND and it's been denied as it was deleted at AfD. Is DrV the way to go? ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 01:02, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

@Editorofthewiki: I'm not too versed on undeletion or non-NBA pros, which is why I redirected you. If you are creating new content and are confident he's now notable and the AfD no longer applies, I think you can be bold and create it. DRV seem like if you want the old content revived. What I can do is give you the sources the old version cited (they only used bare URLs). There doesn't seem to be a lot of text in the old version (1300 bytes readable prose), so it's your prerogative if you need a DRV still.

• http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/evaluation/_/id/185722/nick-babb
• http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/player-Nick-Babb-136623
• http://5newsonline.com/2015/04/02/arkansas-guard-nick-babb-transferring/
• http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/04/12/iowa-state-lands-another-high-major-transfer-in-former-arkansas-guard-nick-babb/
• http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/sports/2015/04/12/nick-babb-accepts-scholarship-offer-sunday/25671463/

Best. —Bagumba (talk) 02:36, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

• Also would you mind draftifying/posting the sources for David Edwards (basketball), who died recently? ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 13:10, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

  @Editorofthewiki: It's typically best if you go through the deleting admin first. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 13:43, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

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Illawarra Hawks semi

Hey mate. Hope you're keeping well! Any chance you can semi-protect Illawarra Hawks? The team is in the news regarding LaMelo Ball possibly purchasing them, but it not a done deal. Thanks. DaHuzyBru (talk) 07:18, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Surviving despite the actions of some in the public and government. But that's universal. I protected Hawks for a week. It was unsourced, so I went ahead. Otherwise, if it was sourced using the Ball's take, I'd probably have left it alone as a content dispute.—Bagumba (talk) 08:16, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Good to hear – crazy times! The NBL announced this morning that there were discussions with Ball [2] and then this afternoon have announced they have taken back the licence [3]. Semi definitely needed as I doubt a deal will be make with Ball in the short term. Cheers. DaHuzyBru (talk) 08:23, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

I was wondering if was relying on Big Baller money, or if Lonzo needed to help out.—Bagumba (talk) 08:28, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Haha it would have to be Big Baller Brand with LaMelo as the face and franchise connection. I thought it was a joke when I first saw it added to the infobox, but stranger things have happened. DaHuzyBru (talk) 08:55, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Ellis Marsalis Jr.

On 3 April 2020, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Ellis Marsalis Jr., which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page.  — Amakuru (talk) 17:10, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Protect 2018 in basketball?

User keeps deleting college and women’s data. Seems isolated to one person (but multiple IPs). Ideally blocking the person would be better, but not sure that can be done. Rikster2 (talk) 12:04, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

I protected the page for 1wk. Since the IP keeps changing, it'd be a bit more collateral damage to do a range block.—Bagumba (talk) 12:26, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Jeff Webster

The Talk pages are still messed up between the 2 articles after all the moves Rikster2 (talk) 11:48, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. Wikipedia has this convoluted step where you need to move the article and talk page separately if the target page already exists. —Bagumba (talk) 11:55, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Tom Dempsey

On 5 April 2020, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Tom Dempsey, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 23:25, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Bobby Mitchell

On 6 April 2020, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Bobby Mitchell, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Black Kite (talk) 12:54, 6 April 2020 (UTC)