Talk:Magic Johnson

25 million deal - 1981 or 1984

Started to translate this article. Here is a first question:

• During the off-season, Johnson signed a 25-year, $25 million contract with the Lakers, which was the highest-paying contract in sports history up to that point. ==> The ref says this was 1984, not 1981. Also I'd like to see some reference that covers the second part of the sentence.
• minor prose issue: ...He missed 45 games, and said that ... Johnson returned before the start of the 1981 playoffs, but the Lakers' then-assistant and future head coach Pat Riley later said that...
• While I'm at it: The Lakers faced the 40–42 Houston Rockets in the Well, certainly nice to have that record but to put it into perspective it would be nice to have the Lakers' record too.

Regards, --X-Weinzar (talk) 23:49, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the time to translate, and point out the errors, which I think I've fixed. Good luck on your translation. Noble Story (talk • contributions) 13:50, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Coaching record

Thank you, I'm making good progress there. Here's another issue: I'm not sure which source is wrong but someone must be wrong about his coaching career. Nba.com states "The team was fighting for a playoff berth when Johnson assumed the reins, and Los Angeles immediately won five straight. But after the club lost five of its next six outings, Johnson announced that he would not return as coach the following season.". Well, take a look at basketball-reference: Rather looks like the other way around; that he won five out of his first six games but not five straight and then lost all other games. So when exactly did he decide to give up his coaching career? Please investigate this and correct the article accordingly. Regards, --X-Weinzar (talk) 12:40, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Image with him in uniform

This article will be a featured article in a few days and there's no photo of him in uniform? Are there any free ones out there?DavidRF (talk) 22:47, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Not that I know of... Chensiyuan (talk) 02:12, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

 Done . . . Article now has him rebounding against Larry Bird. Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 15:06, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Artikel des Tages

Is this a coincidence? Do you coordinate these things?

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Hauptseite

There is no coordination involved. This is indeed pure coincidence. --Voyager (talk) 08:43, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Ofcourse it is not coincidence.. Today is his birthday :) ... --Reinoutr (talk) 17:02, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Images

Why isn't there any images of Magic playing in this article? Burningview (talk) 13:48, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

If you can find a free image of him doing so, please put it in. So far, efforts have been fruitless. Dabomb87 (talk) 13:50, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

What about: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rafamado/2717299999/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.123.130.95 (talk) 08:24, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

The image indicates that it is a photo of Magic from 1987, however he is clean shaven in the picture. I am a long-time Lakers fan, and watched Magic play throughout the 1980's. It wasn't until a couple of years later that Magic decided to get rid of the signature goatee that he wore during much of the prime of his career. The following article from SI appears to support that it was indeed the spring of 1989 that he made that change: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1068404/index.htm

Of course, that doesn't help us specifically identify the date of the photo, but it seems safe to assume that it's from the time period from 1989-1991. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.185.148.90 (talk) 18:35, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

 Done . . . Article now has him rebounding against Larry Bird. Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 15:10, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Hidden ad should be removed

{{editsemiprotected}} Hi, let me first say that I am HIV+ myself and one of the companies mentioned in the article makes one of the drugs that have been saving my life for more than a decade now. None the less I find it irrelevant at best to specify who makes the drugs Magic Johnson takes. To me it is obvious hiding an ad in an article.

The formulation I am talking about is: To prevent his HIV infection from becoming AIDS, Johnson takes a daily combination of drugs from GlaxoSmithKline and Abbott Laboratories.

It could instead have said something like: To prevent his HIV infection from becoming AIDS, Johnson receives combination therapy [with a link to an article on the matter which is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAART ].

The fact that Magic Johnson is promoting these companies is irrelevant to what medication he takes. These two subjects doesn't belong together. In fact HIV-medication can have very serious and deadly complications and long term adverse affects such as cardiac problems and cancer. Nobody in his right mind takes drugs based on a promotional deal but on sound medical advice. I guess that goes for Magic Johnson as well.

To be clear I don't see any problem mentioning what ever promotion he is involved in like the following setence: He has advertised GlaxoSmithKline's drugs,[92] and partnered with Abbott Laboratories to publicize the fight against AIDS in African American communities.

But I do see a problem in connecting specific companies to whatever his current treatment regime is within a wikipedia article. It is simply not relevant.

(Babediba (talk) 14:50, 14 September 2009 (UTC))

Done Agree, and done. Debresser (talk) 15:25, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Business Ventures

Why is there nothing here about his entrepreneurship? I have an article backing it up but don't know how best to incorporate it. http://www.usatoday.com/money/companies/management/entre/2008-12-07-magic-johnson-urban-business_N.htm BenW (talk) 07:10, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Magic Johnson enterprises is briefly mentioned in the "Off the court" section. What kind of details would you like to add? Zagalejo^^^ 07:30, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Johnson, along with former Ohio State running back Archie Griffin, is an owner of the Cincinnati Reds Class-A affiliate Dayton Dragons minor league baseball team. http://espn.go.com/minor-league-baseball/story/_/id/6796623/dayton-dragons-celebrate-record-sellout-streakJcnewt01 (talk) 04:24, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

In July of 2011, Johnson announced that he would be joining Detroit Venture Partners (DVP) as a general partner. DVP is a Detroit, Michigan based venture capital firm that invests in seed and early-stage technology companies primarily located in the heart of downtown Detroit. Johnson also committed to investing an undisclosed multi-million dollar amount into the investment fund. Alexlinebrink (talk) 13:58, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

25-year contract?!

Are you sure that's the duration of the contract fron 1981? Maybe it's 5-year contract? Please reply me. YHYH (talk) 17:44, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Nope, it's 25 years. Check the source. Dabomb87 (talk) 02:20, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

South Park Episode

Johnson is heavily featured in the AIDS-related story of South Park Season 12, Episode 1 "Tonsil Trouble". Johnson did not himself participate. 70.123.130.95 (talk) 08:18, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Then why is it worth mentioning? Dabomb87 (talk) 13:57, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Jersey Retirement

I added Magic's jersey retirement in the infobox as it is in Kareem's, but Kareem may be a special case since his jersey was retired *by two teams*. LUxlii (talk) 16:42, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

NBA Statistics - Career highs

In this section, Magic is listed as having had 5 blocks against the San Antonio Spurs on Dec 23, 1986. However, he played Sacramento that night as shown by the other career highs he had on Dec 23rd, 1986 in Sacramento and on http://www.sacbee.com/2011/02/23/3425613/gallery-the-sacramento-kings-greatest.html This page lists him as having 0 blocks that night. Could anyone find out if he had his 5 blocks against San Antonio on a different night? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.82.163.19 (talk) 20:19, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

You might want to ask Hoops gza. Zagalejo^^^ 05:21, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Dream Team

I followed one of the links to "Dream Team" and didn't find what I was looking for. These should be changed to point to 1992 United States men's Olympic basketball team instead, since that is an article about, well, the Dream Team. 178.73.222.119 (talk) 14:05, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Fixed, thanks. Zagalejo^^^ 19:15, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from , 11 October 2011

Rivalry with Magic Johnson Johnson and Larry Bird were first linked as rivals after Johnson's Michigan State squad defeated Bird's Indiana State team in the 1979 NCAA finals. The rivalry continued in the NBA, and reached its climax when Boston and Los Angeles met in three out of four NBA Finals from 1984 to 1987. Johnson asserted that for him, the 82-game regular season was composed of 80 normal games, and two Lakers–Celtics games. Similarly, Bird admitted that Johnson's daily box score was the first thing he checked in the morning.[80] Several journalists hypothesized that the Johnson–Bird rivalry was so appealing because it represented many other contrasts, such as the clash between the Lakers and Celtics, between Hollywood flashiness ("Showtime") and Boston/Indiana blue collar grit ("Celtic Pride"), and between blacks and whites.[109][110] The rivalry was also significant because it drew national attention to the faltering NBA. Prior to Johnson and Bird's arrival, the NBA had gone through a decade of declining interest and low TV ratings.[111] With the two future Hall of Famers, the league won a whole generation of new fans,[112] drawing both traditionalist adherents of Bird's dirt court Indiana game and those appreciative of Johnson's public park flair. Sports journalist Larry Schwartz of ESPN asserted that Johnson and Bird saved the NBA from bankruptcy.[12] Despite their on-court rivalry, Johnson and Bird became close friends during the filming of a 1984 Converse shoe advertisement that depicted them as enemies.[113][114] Johnson appeared at Bird's retirement ceremony in 1992, and described Bird as a "friend forever";[80] during Johnson's Hall of Fame ceremony, Bird formally inducted his old rival.[112]

24.104.32.5 (talk) 19:56, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. — Bility (talk) 21:29, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

QUESTION: This section of TALK is now olde; where do we stand? Just asking, Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 12:35, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

QUICK-ANSWER: I just took a quick read of the writing here (rather good, very informative) and then looked for writing in the Article about the friendship of Magic-Bird, not finding it. The edit request to include what was suggested has merit, especially the last few sentences here. Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 12:44, 30 March 2012 (UTC) PS: The links would need to be re=checked.

Errors in article - poorly written

To name but a few errors - Sexton High School was never ALL-black (African-American) nor ALL-white (caucasian), instead, perhaps it was "largely" or "significantly" one or the other (stay away from absolutes unless you know that it was indeed 100% this or that)... very sloppy and misleading draftsmanship. Another issue - Magic Johnson did not "return" to the Breslin Center as it did not exist when he was at MSU. It was built a decade after he left. It is fair to say that he "returned to MSU to play at the Breslin Center..." but not that he returned to his old arena which the Breslin Center is not. I have not taken a closer look but, if I did, I am confident that I would find other errors or sloppy details in this article... Please correct.

In the barnstorming section, it reads that he both played with the Canberra Cannons, and also defeated them. In fact, they defeated the Michigan State Spartans. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.7.109.198 (talk) 14:34, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Any article issues here?

Other than one dead link, is the current version flawed right now? --George Ho (talk) 08:28, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Can you be more specific on what you are concerned with?—Bagumba (talk) 17:23, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

No major concerns as of now. I just hope that there aren't any other BLP and sourcing issues here, especially in general. --George Ho (talk) 20:50, 6 April 2013 (UTC

I was so disappointed that there is nothing written about Mr. Johnson's personal life as a man. Is he married? When did he get married and to whom? Has he ever divorced? How many children does he have and when were they born? Is his parents still alive? How has life been for him as a family man? It would be a wonderful article to have included this information for the reader to learn that regardless of Magic Johnson's health status he has been able to fulfill his life in other ways than just being a promiscuous pro basketball player and how he has invested his earnings.

There actually is an Off the court section, which has a good deal of information on his personal life and business interests in its various subsections. Giants2008 (Talk) 01:20, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

Missing details

There seems to be more content and game specifics regarding his touring with Magic Johnson All-Stars than, say, his 85–86 MVP season. A bit surprising for an FA the less-than-comprehensive details here. Even his college-like enthusiasm in his first NBA game is missing, and his close relationship with Jerry Buss.—Bagumba (talk) 21:50, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Magic Johnson's siblings

Is there a good source for the actual number of Magic's siblings. I have seen from 6 to 9 brothers and sisters for him.[[D-free]] (talk) 23:05, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Here, he is quoted as saying "I had seven brothers and sisters." Zagalejo^^^ 00:42, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

You know, the more I look at this, the more confused I get. I typed in some of his siblings' names and found a relevant passage in Johnson's own biography: [1]. From there, it would appear that he is one of seven children, not including the stepchildren. I wonder if he was misquoted in the article I linked to earlier. I think I would give more weight to the book. Zagalejo^^^ 21:02, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Claims of 1,000 to 20,000

Magic has claimed he has had sexual intercourse with somewhere between 1,000 and 20,000 women. This deserves a mention as people may mistakenly paint this saintly picture of him and because it will explain better why his chances of contracting HIV were much higher than that of an average person.

50/50 HIV test

Is it possible that Johnson was misdiagnosed due the 50/50 accuracy of the HIV test?Gnostics (talk) 16:32, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

bravery?

It says in the lead, his "bravery" was commended. This is a very subjective term. Whether he was brave or not is completely one's opinion. This should be rephrased.--2607:FB90:2305:60CA:0:4D:6F26:9701 (talk) 01:55, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

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Lawsuit

Why is there no mention of Doe V. Johnson where he was sued by Jane Doe after having sex without informing her he was HIV positive?

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Feel free to cite reliable sources supporting the change you are proposing.—Bagumba (talk) 17:48, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

http://biotech.law.lsu.edu/cases/STDs/doe%20v%20johnson.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.230.143.35 (talk) 12:57, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Category:African-American Christians

Could someone please add the category African-American Christians to the page? Thank you. - 108.71.133.201 (talk) 22:59, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Board membership

I just found out that "Magic" is on the Board of Directors of Square Inc. Maybe you should consider adding this to the article

WikiEditCrunch (talk) 15:02, 7 November 2015 (UTC)Kind Regards WEC

References

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The first, of the Michigan State University section, is both consistent with how Johnson's freshman season there was treated and legitimate on its own merits.

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During the 1978–79 season, Michigan State went 26-6 and tied for the Big Ten title. Ranked #3 by the AP at season's end, they swept through the early rounds of the NCAA Tournament en route to the championship game against an undefeated #1 ranked Indiana State team led by senior Larry Bird. In what was the most-watched college basketball game ever,[32] the Spartans defeated the 33-0 Sycamores 75–64, and Johnson was voted Most Outstanding Player of the Final Four.[23] After two years in college, during which he averaged 17.1 points, 7.6 rebounds, and 7.9 assists per game, Johnson entered the 1979 NBA draft.[33]

Also, rather than simply correcting an error in the content of the final passage of the original paragraph previously pointed out here - something of a non sequitur in the flow of the article - it is recommended the item's highlight be relocated here, where the topic is already referenced under the Magic Johnson All-Stars heading.

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Determined to play competitive basketball despite being out of the NBA, Johnson formed the Magic Johnson All-Stars, a barnstorming team composed of former NBA and college players. In 1994 Johnson joined with former pros Reggie Theus, John Long, Earl Cureton, and Lester Conner, as his team played games in Australia, Israel, South America, Europe, New Zealand, and Japan. They also toured the United States, playing five games against teams from the CBA. In the final game of the CBA series, Magic Johnson had 30 points, 17 rebounds, and 13 assists, leading the All-Stars to a 126–121 victory over the Oklahoma City Cavalry.[118] By the time he returned to the Lakers in 1996, the Magic Johnson All-Stars had amassed a record of 55–0, and Johnson was earning as much as $365,000 per game.[26] Johnson played with the team frequently over the next several years, with possibly the most memorable game occurring in November, 2001. Magic, at the age of 42, played with the All-Stars against his alma mater, Michigan State. Although he had appeared in a celebrity game honoring retiring head coach Jud Heathcoate in 1995[34] - leading all scorers with 39 points - this was Johnson's first meaningful game played in his hometown of Lansing in 22 years. Playing in front of a sold out arena, Johnson had a triple-double and played the entire game, but his all-star team lost to the Spartans by two points. Johnson's half court shot at the buzzer would have won the game, but it fell short.[119][120] On November 1, 2002 Johnson returned to play a second exhibition game against Michigan State. Playing with the Canberra Cannons of Australia's National Basketball League instead of his usual group of players, Johnson's team defeated the Spartans 104–85, as he scored 12 points, with 10 assists and 10 rebounds.[121]

Any assistance on these two edits would be most helpful. 71.233.84.208 (talk) 19:25, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Position

I am going to remove the position "power forward" as Johnson was overwhelmingly known as a point hard. He occasionally lined up at the 4, but in truth he played briefly at all 5 positions on the court. But he's rightly known as one of the best point guards ever, and as someone who redefined the position. Rikster2 (talk) 22:14, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Offical biography he did play as power forward in last season, returning and adding reference. ^{Snake bgd} 01:06, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

I agree with the point of the original change that Magic is primarily a point guard, save for roughly 30 games (his last season) of a 900-game career.—Bagumba (talk) 08:55, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 June 2016

In 2016 Johnson endorsed democratic candidate Hillary Clinton for president via Twitter tweeting out a picture of himself and his wife with the candidate saying "My wife @cjbycookie and I with the next President of the United States"

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Semi-protected edit request on 12 October 2016

Magiccjohhnson (talk) 21:17, 12 October 2016 (UTC) CAN I EDIT its important thx

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Featured article review

As editors here are agreed that the article fails two of the Wikipedia:Featured article criteria (1b comprehensiveness and 2b structure), should the article be taken to Wikipedia:Featured article review? DrKay (talk) 10:56, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

I'll take a shot at making the necessary improvements. The tagged section would seem to be the one that really needs beefing up. While I'm not sure how much detail is appropriate for a two-year executive career, we should at least have a real paragraph on the subject. As for the structure, I think the main issue that was indirectly referred to in a past edit summary is that the "Outside basketball" section has a lot of small subsections that appear stubby. I can understand why one would believe that organization is lacking there. A major improvement can be made by combining some of the smaller subsections. The smallest ones all appear to be connected to his ownership interests in sports teams, so that is where I'll focus my initial efforts. Giants2008 (Talk) 00:24, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

I also wonder if the "Relationship with Jerry Buss" section would be better integrated into other revelevant sections as opposed to being a standalone.—Bagumba (talk) 03:15, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

I was thinking the same thing. That sounds like a fit for the Outside basketball section as well. Giants2008 (Talk) 15:18, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

I've expanded the formerly tagged section a bit and made the structure of the article more logical. That should take care of the major concerns raised here. Giants2008 (Talk) 19:18, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 June 2020

I think that we should add the nickname on the sidebar. TheJackBasket777 (talk) 17:38, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

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First paragraph

Can one of y’all substitute the 2nd sentence for this: “Johnson was rated the greatest NBA point guard of all time by ESPN in 2007.”[6] Or just incorporate that statement so the audience can see it first when they look up Magic Johnson. AfroWorld33 (talk) 07:44, 15 July 2020 (UTC)