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** {{reply|Aozf05}} Thank you for your input. The article was originally named with option 2 until a user changed it, and I wanted to pitch a discussion so we can see what to rename it without more edit wars happening. I'll wait to see what other people have to say. [[User:Lullabying|lullabying]] ([[User talk:Lullabying|talk]]) 02:36, 8 July 2020 (UTC) |
** {{reply|Aozf05}} Thank you for your input. The article was originally named with option 2 until a user changed it, and I wanted to pitch a discussion so we can see what to rename it without more edit wars happening. I'll wait to see what other people have to say. [[User:Lullabying|lullabying]] ([[User talk:Lullabying|talk]]) 02:36, 8 July 2020 (UTC) |
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** On another note, based on [[WP:MOVE#Technical restrictions]], using a colon as the article title is discouraged and [[Template:Correct title|reason=:]] should be used. [[User:Lullabying|lullabying]] ([[User talk:Lullabying|talk]]) 04:57, 9 July 2020 (UTC) |
** On another note, based on [[WP:MOVE#Technical restrictions]], using a colon as the article title is discouraged and [[Template:Correct title|reason=:]] should be used. [[User:Lullabying|lullabying]] ([[User talk:Lullabying|talk]]) 04:57, 9 July 2020 (UTC) |
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The latest edit added Ψ to the name. I thought it might be vandalism but upon checking on it, Psi was apparently the working title and when looking at the title card, the digivice with horns does look like Ψ. What do y'all think? --[[User:Aozf05|Aozf05]] ([[User talk:Aozf05|talk]]) 02:10, 20 July 2020 (UTC) |
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== Episode summaries == |
== Episode summaries == |
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Japanese vs dub names
Thus far, this article has been using the Japanese names for the children. If this is the case, shouldn't we also be using the Japanese names for the Digimon and other terms such as evolution instead of digivolution, chosen children instead of digidestined (if they end up using this later on), Omegamon instead of Omnimon, etc? I'm inclined to do this since there is no dub yet and we don't know if the dub is going to maintain the original series's dub changes since this is a brand new series and all. It would also be confusing to new viewers watching the simulcast to come here and see dub names for everything. --Aozf05 (talk) 03:38, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Aozf05: We are going by Crunchyroll's version because they are releasing the series in English subtitles. Toei has also been using "DigiDestined" and the English names for the Digimon on their promotional material. lullabying (talk) 04:34, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
- I'd say go by the names Toei uses since they are the ones actually making it, as Crunchyroll in this case is more site that streams the new episodes as they air. Again, this is just how I see this. Pissedgreenlink (talk) 06:02, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
- Crunchyroll uses Toei's English translations. lullabying (talk) 10:23, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
- I'd say go by the names Toei uses since they are the ones actually making it, as Crunchyroll in this case is more site that streams the new episodes as they air. Again, this is just how I see this. Pissedgreenlink (talk) 06:02, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
Article rename proposal
The article title should be renamed. We should not call it "Digimon Adventure: (2020 TV series)" because there is no other article occupying the "Digimon Adventure:" namespace. Our options are as follows:
- Name the article "Digimon Adventure:" per WP:COMMONNAME as that is how most reporting (such as Anime News Network) is spelling it.
- Name the article "Digimon Adventure (2020 TV series)" with no colon per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Titles#Typographic effects as the colon is stylized and does not affect the series' pronunciation.
Any thoughts are appreciated. lullabying (talk) 04:40, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
- Well aside from the colon, the name is identical to the first anime series which might be a bit confusing for people looking them up. It might be more appropriate to go with option 2. --Aozf05 (talk) 23:39, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Aozf05: Thank you for your input. The article was originally named with option 2 until a user changed it, and I wanted to pitch a discussion so we can see what to rename it without more edit wars happening. I'll wait to see what other people have to say. lullabying (talk) 02:36, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
- On another note, based on WP:MOVE#Technical restrictions, using a colon as the article title is discouraged and reason=: should be used. lullabying (talk) 04:57, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
The latest edit added Ψ to the name. I thought it might be vandalism but upon checking on it, Psi was apparently the working title and when looking at the title card, the digivice with horns does look like Ψ. What do y'all think? --Aozf05 (talk) 02:10, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
Episode summaries
@Lullabying: The edits I made to the plot summaries were reverted because they were supposedly more than 150 words and too flowery. Firstly, MOS:TVPLOT suggests a 200 word limit for serial plot summaries, not 150. And my summaries were all within limit, the longest being 158 words. Secondly, the edits were necessary because the summaries as they are now are lacking necessary detail, as per WP:PLOTSUMMARIZE. Taichi and Koshiro learn electronic systems are going haywire. And then they go to the nearby station. Why? If we're doing a plot summary, the entire plot of the episode hinges on Taichi wanting to go out and do something about the haywire electronics because his family is in danger. It's literally a summary of what the episode is about and not extraneous detail. The Argomon are hacking into the US military. Again, why do the kids care? And what's "the missile" that the summary later mentions without introduction? MOS:TVPLOT says to outline the important events of the episode. I fail to see how any of this stuff is not important to conveying an outline of the plot. Other things: how does anyone who isn't an old fan of the series know who Yamato is in the first episode summary when he doesn't even speak in the actual episode? How is Koshiro communicating with Taichi when he's apparently been transported to another world? (maybe that's not as important but Koshiro receiving a digivice is important) Also, the edits I made cut down on the flowery and subjective or weak language that is now once again present in the summaries, things like "thanks to two unknown feathers". When you look at the edit history, the person responsible for the current version justified it with "hope this is enough" which isn't enough of a reason to have cut down the previous, lengthier version of the summaries which also were within the character limit. --Aozf05 (talk) 08:31, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Aozf05: Feel free to revise the edit summaries, but keep in mind you don't need to give extra detail that may count as WP:FLOWERY. The purpose of episode summaries is to briefly explain what happened in every single episode in a neutral tone, and if people wanted everything explained to them, they'd just watch the episode themselves. lullabying (talk) 17:19, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
- If you're gonna say that you should provide examples of where you thought there was WP:FLOWERY language because I did my due diligence and referred to the guidelines when I made my previous edit. None of the details I added were extra or puffed up. There were no scene-by-scene replays or evaluations. It was just the main plot events that happened told matter of factly. Keep in mind, these are plot summaries, not plot descriptions or loglines. MOS:TVPLOT says "all of an episode's important events should be outlined without censoring details considered spoilers". What that sounds like is all the main story beats should be there. --Aozf05 (talk) 19:41, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
episode table
I was just wondering. Does anyone know why exactly the episode table is broken where it is working right? Because I can't see a reason why it is not working properly and showing air date for episode 7. Pissedgreenlink (talk) 01:21, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- Don't know why but I fixed it by copy/pasting the table entry for episode 6 and replaced the info. --Aozf05 (talk) 04:08, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- Ah, it was "OriginalAirDate" was incorrectly written as "OriginalAirdate" which prevented the script from rendering the table as intended. --Aozf05 (talk) 04:10, 26 June 2020 (UTC)