Talk:O Canada

Borrowings

In a recent peer-reviewed paper published in the leading musicological journal The Musical Quarterly, the distinguished musicologist Ross Duffin has made a sophisticated extended argument for the composer of this anthem having borrowed themes from Mozart, Liszt, Wagner, and Matthias Keller. Duffin readily concedes that he cannot definitively prove his case, but I believe that any careful reader of his paper will agree that he has made a very persuasive argument in all four cases. Duffin also makes very clear that he does not think less of Lavallée for such borrowing, which was a well-represented and well-accepted practice at the time. A new subsection mentioning Duffin's contribution (not by me) has recently been reverted, twice, with the justification that Duffin's is "just an opinion." It is not a mere opinion, but a careful study that needs to be at least mentioned in this Wikipedia article. I have modified the reverted subsection slightly to make it a bit more acceptable to critics, and re-posted to the article. I would only ask that the editor who has twice reverted the earlier version please read Duffin's paper before considering reverting once more.Ajrocke (talk) 16:39, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

It is not supported by all musicologists, only his own. We cannot easily read his paper because it's paid. Thanks for the third opinion though. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:08, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 July 2020

The performance direction (in the 'Melody' section) should be changed from "maestoso è risoluto" to "maestoso e risoluto" (since "è" means "is" whereas "e" means "and"). Also, the translation of "risoluto" as "resolved" should possibly be changed to "resolute" (according to the English-Italian part of www.linguee.com). 82.3.26.111 (talk) 12:04, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Partially done. The source does use "è" instead of "e", which is something I think they used in error as "majestic is resolved" does not quite make sense, so changed those. Kept "risoluto" meaning "resolved" per linked article. Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 13:50, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

I found other sources that used maestoso è risoluto, so it's either a copy error or an obscure rule in Italian. I marked it with a {{sic}} instead. Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:02, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Could you also add those sources there so it doesn't look like it's just one source using the seemingly wrong term? Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 14:29, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

They're not RSes though. They're simply sheet music. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:53, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Key and score

The article says it was originally written in the key of G major, but the score and corresponding audio file are in F major. If it's more commonly performed in F major today, that ought to be explained and cited. (I found [1] which says "A lower key — F, E or E flat — is preferable when it is sung.") Otherwise, it would be better to change the score to G major, to match the original. --Bigpeteb (talk) 19:46, 22 July 2020 (UTC)