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I am nominating this article for deletion. A quick [https://www.google.com/search?q=Derek+M+Yellon&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj009O-spTkAhVMSxUIHYpEALwQ_AUICSgA&biw=1280&bih=884&dpr=1#spf=1566405307934|google search] yields no significant notable information for the subject. There are no significant [https://www.google.com/search?&q=%22Derek+M+Yellon%22+site:news.google.com/newspapers&source=newspapers#spf=1566405385767|newspaper] articles, [https://www.google.com/search?tbs=bks:1&q=%22Derek+M+Yellon%22+-wikipedia#spf=1566405420599|nothing in books] beyond self-authored publications. Similar issue with JSTOR and scholar. The subject is not notable at all where a Wikipedia article is merited. A more significant concern appears to be that this appears to be an article created, either by self or by payment, for (self-)promotion. A review of the article history demonstrates a substantial focus on quarternary sources, e.g., where the subject has been mentioned in isolated sentences or in appendices. Of even more serious concern is that tags highlighting possible COI and concerns of notability [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Derek_M_Yellon&type=revision&diff=895319390&oldid=882973108|appear to have been summarily removed] by this single purpose user.[[User:Dudewheresmywallet|Dudewheresmywallet]] ([[User talk:Dudewheresmywallet|talk]]) 16:45, 21 August 2019 (UTC) |
I am nominating this article for deletion. A quick [https://www.google.com/search?q=Derek+M+Yellon&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj009O-spTkAhVMSxUIHYpEALwQ_AUICSgA&biw=1280&bih=884&dpr=1#spf=1566405307934|google search] yields no significant notable information for the subject. There are no significant [https://www.google.com/search?&q=%22Derek+M+Yellon%22+site:news.google.com/newspapers&source=newspapers#spf=1566405385767|newspaper] articles, [https://www.google.com/search?tbs=bks:1&q=%22Derek+M+Yellon%22+-wikipedia#spf=1566405420599|nothing in books] beyond self-authored publications. Similar issue with JSTOR and scholar. The subject is not notable at all where a Wikipedia article is merited. A more significant concern appears to be that this appears to be an article created, either by self or by payment, for (self-)promotion. A review of the article history demonstrates a substantial focus on quarternary sources, e.g., where the subject has been mentioned in isolated sentences or in appendices. Of even more serious concern is that tags highlighting possible COI and concerns of notability [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Derek_M_Yellon&type=revision&diff=895319390&oldid=882973108|appear to have been summarily removed] by this single purpose user.[[User:Dudewheresmywallet|Dudewheresmywallet]] ([[User talk:Dudewheresmywallet|talk]]) 16:45, 21 August 2019 (UTC) |
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::I agree. The whole thing reads like a puff piece. Or something extracted from a CV. [[WP:NOTE]] for me.[[User:Fortnum|Fortnum]] ([[User talk:Fortnum|talk]]) 20:42, 21 August 2019 (UTC) |
::I agree. The whole thing reads like a puff piece. Or something extracted from a CV. [[WP:NOTE]] for me.[[User:Fortnum|Fortnum]] ([[User talk:Fortnum|talk]]) 20:42, 21 August 2019 (UTC) |
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==Puff piece== |
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Very deeply concerning that that the article tags have been reverted to make it appear that this person is notable, in a obviously frivolous puff piece. The Wikipedia guidelines on notable academics are quite clear. See WP:PROF. Scopecreep has argued rather frivolously about some index of publication to argue this chap has notability, disregarding the entire WP:PROF notabillity guidelines. It is categorically mentioned that H-index is not considered a metric of notability, and moreover being widely published may get you a good private practice, it does not get you a Wikipedia article. The logic appears this chap is notable for being a well-published academic in a university, by which metric all Ivy league professors would have their own Wikipedia page. The subject has listed a few things like being on scientific committee of which there are many, and being a lead investigator etc that there are literally thousands of in Britain. I am sure there are many thousands of graduates from South African Universities with Pharmacology. The article, written by the academic himself or his staff, clearly demonstrates lack of WP:notabillity by the fact this is an orphan article, there are no claims nor any support of notability, and the versions through the creation clearly demonstrate this is designed to boost the person's profile and does little else, ie, this is article is more about promotions. There has been discussion to this end in the past so far as it was proposed and supported that the article be deleted. |
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Lastly, it is very poor taste to revert a longstanding editor's real concerns by labeling them disruptive. I gave Scopecreep the couresy of informing him of reversion and have given the logics in edit summary. I expect the same courtesy. I am going to revert this edit to re-institute that the subject does not met WP: notability guidelines. I will take this further if appropriate logic is not provided. |
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I would like to update the page from the previous version to the updated one I posted earlier this year. It was rejected but I don't understand why, the information is supported. Grateful for any help.ProfYellon (talk) 08:28, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
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Thank you for this information. What I'm trying to do is remove the previous text entirely and replace with refreshed and more robust information and references. This has required a complete revision of the text rather than small edits here and there - we re-structured the information in a more organised manner. Is this possible or are edits just meant to be minor? While the ethos of the article is to highlight Prof Yellon's work and place in the field of cardiovascular research and the revised text retains much of the original article, the format is changed and there are multiple edits as a new piece almost entirely.
Many thanks, Sara ProfYellon (talk) 11:43, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
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I am nominating this article for deletion. A quick search yields no significant notable information for the subject. There are no significant [1] articles, in books beyond self-authored publications. Similar issue with JSTOR and scholar. The subject is not notable at all where a Wikipedia article is merited. A more significant concern appears to be that this appears to be an article created, either by self or by payment, for (self-)promotion. A review of the article history demonstrates a substantial focus on quarternary sources, e.g., where the subject has been mentioned in isolated sentences or in appendices. Of even more serious concern is that tags highlighting possible COI and concerns of notability to have been summarily removed by this single purpose user.Dudewheresmywallet (talk) 16:45, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
- I agree. The whole thing reads like a puff piece. Or something extracted from a CV. WP:NOTE for me.Fortnum (talk) 20:42, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
Puff piece
Very deeply concerning that that the article tags have been reverted to make it appear that this person is notable, in a obviously frivolous puff piece. The Wikipedia guidelines on notable academics are quite clear. See WP:PROF. Scopecreep has argued rather frivolously about some index of publication to argue this chap has notability, disregarding the entire WP:PROF notabillity guidelines. It is categorically mentioned that H-index is not considered a metric of notability, and moreover being widely published may get you a good private practice, it does not get you a Wikipedia article. The logic appears this chap is notable for being a well-published academic in a university, by which metric all Ivy league professors would have their own Wikipedia page. The subject has listed a few things like being on scientific committee of which there are many, and being a lead investigator etc that there are literally thousands of in Britain. I am sure there are many thousands of graduates from South African Universities with Pharmacology. The article, written by the academic himself or his staff, clearly demonstrates lack of WP:notabillity by the fact this is an orphan article, there are no claims nor any support of notability, and the versions through the creation clearly demonstrate this is designed to boost the person's profile and does little else, ie, this is article is more about promotions. There has been discussion to this end in the past so far as it was proposed and supported that the article be deleted.
Lastly, it is very poor taste to revert a longstanding editor's real concerns by labeling them disruptive. I gave Scopecreep the couresy of informing him of reversion and have given the logics in edit summary. I expect the same courtesy. I am going to revert this edit to re-institute that the subject does not met WP: notability guidelines. I will take this further if appropriate logic is not provided. Dudewheresmywallet (talk) 13:11, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
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